KontrollerX
Master Don Juan
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Heh heh any chance we are going to see you on HBO in some fight crowd Sunny? 
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Pursueing people who have no problem...
- Thread starter SunnyD
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
MacAvoy
Banned
Hey I'm glad you went out and had a great time. This is exactly what you need. If you think he's had the HollyWood & stripper types, then use it to your advantage. I'll tell you a little secret, they get boring after a while just like anything else.
At the end of the day, he probably wants to find a nice girl like the next guy, however given his status, she'll have to be hot as well. I'd say wait a few weeks, then take a trip to go see him. Make it semi-spontaneous so you can show a fun side.
Just go and do the exact same thing you did with him this weekend. Have a great time and I guarantee you'll stand out from the crowd. Keep teasing him & neg'ing him as well. Be sure to do lots of kino but don't try acting ditzy or horish.
Most importantly just have fun & enjoy it while you can.
At the end of the day, he probably wants to find a nice girl like the next guy, however given his status, she'll have to be hot as well. I'd say wait a few weeks, then take a trip to go see him. Make it semi-spontaneous so you can show a fun side.
Just go and do the exact same thing you did with him this weekend. Have a great time and I guarantee you'll stand out from the crowd. Keep teasing him & neg'ing him as well. Be sure to do lots of kino but don't try acting ditzy or horish.
Most importantly just have fun & enjoy it while you can.
I agree...I needed it..haha. I had an absolute blast. If none if you have been to a UFC event, I strongly suggest shelling out a few and going...soooo worth it.
Anyway, so how do I keep things going a bit inbetween then? From now until I actually get out to Vegas? Just text here and there saying hey?
Anyway, so how do I keep things going a bit inbetween then? From now until I actually get out to Vegas? Just text here and there saying hey?
iqqi
Master Don Juan
Don't let anyone try and tell you what is going through his head just because of his profession, either. I've hung around all kinds of celebrity types (sports and music), and they are all different. NOT motivated by the same things, not affected by the same things.
However two things. Just because a man tells you his life story doesn't make him invested in you. He could just like to talk about himself, and be a great self promoter... this even applies to "embarrassing childhood stories." Just keep that in mind. That always seems to hook us ladies, thinking he is confiding in us... and that it MEANS something.
Also, of course he is going to say "no, no bootie calls". You WANT to believe him... but don't. They were most likely booty calls. But he already had booty, so he didn't answer them. Too bad he didn't follow through (with you)!
Having said that, it doesn't make him a bad person, just a single man.
However two things. Just because a man tells you his life story doesn't make him invested in you. He could just like to talk about himself, and be a great self promoter... this even applies to "embarrassing childhood stories." Just keep that in mind. That always seems to hook us ladies, thinking he is confiding in us... and that it MEANS something.
Also, of course he is going to say "no, no bootie calls". You WANT to believe him... but don't. They were most likely booty calls. But he already had booty, so he didn't answer them. Too bad he didn't follow through (with you)!
Having said that, it doesn't make him a bad person, just a single man.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
You CANNOT do all the work or chasing, no matter how much your little fingers are going to itch to keep in contact.SunnyD said:Anyway, so how do I keep things going a bit inbetween then? From now until I actually get out to Vegas? Just text here and there saying hey?
As a matter of fact, I would not do anything until he contacted me first.
This always works, unless said man already has a special someone that he really wants to make it work with.
MacAvoy
Banned
Considering how I tell men to avoid the txts because women can control the frame, I'll go ahead and give the opposite advice to a women and say yes but don't over use it.SunnyD said:Anyway, so how do I keep things going a bit inbetween then? From now until I actually get out to Vegas? Just text here and there saying hey?
However I'd toss in a phone call here and there as well but not too much, I'd say maybe once a week or three calls every two weeks.
Be positive in your interactions, make yourself out to be the prize but make sure to make him feel good about himself as well. Make him happy.
Oh and when you do see him, remember a way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
This is true. You need to spin plates. Immediately.Max Power said:You have oneitis
iqqi
Master Don Juan
This guy has not done his homework.sav said:the one thing you can do to stand out, is not try and stand out....
be urself... as thats ur greatest asset..
Stroll down the bottom, kid. Read the bible.
Sunny, whatever you do, DON'T do all the pursuing. It must be a dance. He must also iniate!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MacAvoy
Banned
I find this funny. If she was spinning more plates, everyone would be calling her a slvt. I always thought that us men wanted women to only give their attention to one man.iqqi said:Max Power said:You have oneitis
This is true. You need to spin plates. Immediately.
So why train women to go out and spin more plates then?
Given her history, I think its good that she's getting out there and moving on from her real oneitis. The other good thing about this is he's in Vegas and there the realistic chance of her chasing him are minimal. But what it will do is get her back out there in the game again. A game that she's been scared to get into for the past 6 months.
Thanks MacAvoy..couldn't have said it better myself.MacAvoy said:I find this funny. If she was spinning more plates, everyone would be calling her a slvt. I always thought that us men wanted women to only give their attention to one man.
So why train women to go out and spin more plates then?
Given her history, I think its good that she's getting out there and moving on from her real oneitis. The other good thing about this is he's in Vegas and there the realistic chance of her chasing him are minimal. But what it will do is get her back out there in the game again. A game that she's been scared to get into for the past 6 months.
I don't have oneitis people, I am trying to move on from one. I had genuine interest in this guy and given where he lives and what he does, wanted advice on how to go from here...
iqqi
Master Don Juan
Chasing = calling and texting.
Oneitis = serious attraction for ONE person (especially bad if you just met).
Mac, spinning plates = dating, in a nutshell.
And who cares what "society" thinks? I thought you left "the matrix". Of COURSE men want women to want only one man. Same with women! Noone wants to share. But until someone has proven themselves, they do not get chosen as that special ONE!
Not spinning plates, and chasing, and ONEitis does not lead to prize mentality for the pursuer.
Oneitis = serious attraction for ONE person (especially bad if you just met).
Mac, spinning plates = dating, in a nutshell.
And who cares what "society" thinks? I thought you left "the matrix". Of COURSE men want women to want only one man. Same with women! Noone wants to share. But until someone has proven themselves, they do not get chosen as that special ONE!
Not spinning plates, and chasing, and ONEitis does not lead to prize mentality for the pursuer.
MacAvoy
Banned
I don't believe in the matrix.iqqi said:I thought you left "the matrix".
Here's what I recently said about it
It might exist, I really don't care. I don't buy into society's viewpoint, I live my life by a unique set of rules, my own.MacAvoy said:Its basically taking a negative view of the world. Its also the same thing that is wrong with the Matrix point of view. Everyone is all about hating the matrix and opting out instead of merely getting ahead and winning in life.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
That's why I put it into quotations.MacAvoy said:I don't believe in the matrix.
Here's what I recently said about it
It might exist, I really don't care. I don't buy into society's viewpoint, I live my life by a unique set of rules, my own.
But you still don't seem to think on your own, hense the first statement I replied to. Since when do only men date? Lol.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
MooseGod
Master Don Juan
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Am I the only one who thinks a girl asking for advice on dating on this forum is kinda...against the reason why this forum is here?
I do believe the subtitle for the DJ Discussion forum says "discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women."
This isn't a place for women to ask for dating advice. It's advice for men.
I do believe the subtitle for the DJ Discussion forum says "discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women."
This isn't a place for women to ask for dating advice. It's advice for men.
Why??? Because I don't have balls??MooseGod said:Am I the only one who thinks a girl asking for advice on dating on this forum is kinda...against the reason why this forum is here?
I do believe the subtitle for the DJ Discussion forum says "discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women."
This isn't a place for women to ask for dating advice. It's advice for men.
I think a lot of the theories presented here can work both ways. I offer advice here best I can from a female perspective...so I apprecate the advice from a male perspective.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
It DOES, lol. Make sure you consult the bible when you find yourself tiptoeing into ONEitis land.SunnyD said:I think a lot of the theories presented here can work both ways.
Don't mind the men who think this is Neverland, and they are the lost boys.