"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ok...short and sweet. Hung out all weekend long with a UFC fighter this past weekend. We partied every night, he was staying at my hotel and came back to my room with me. Nothing happened, he was ****ed up from doing so many shots and he passed out on my bed..haha. Not that I minded, I should have made a move but the guy was outcold. What could I do? Not to mention, it's a bit intimidating knowing this guy has no problem getting laid with whoever. He's dated the Hollywood types I'm sure...so...

Anyway, he gave me his number and when the weekend was said and done..I text him to make sure he made his flight and told him I had a good time. He invited me out to Vegas "anytime" and that was that.

Plain and simple...I want this guy. I felt like I knew him forever..we got along like peas in a pod and he is hot as fvck.

My question is, how can I stand out from the rest... I'm just a normal girl to him when he has strippers, models, playboys, whatever after him... I'm a "nobody" in the sense I am not elite...know what I mean. Do guys like this look for the arm candy like that? Or do I have a shot? And how?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ha ha, really my first time helping a girl in this forum. anyways sunny, I visualise you as someone who is pretty cool and fun to hang out with, not one that projects their sexuality strongly and who would need some amount of emotional connection with their man. is it right? yes? kool.

i am a guy and i tell you something, we guys go for teh girls that stand out or different from others and who don't behave like losers but not like arrogant winners too! so even if you stand among teh strippers, it doesnt mean that you have to strip, in fact i would say just stay as you are and let your positive personality come out. if you are fun, let it out. if you are truly knowledgeable about something, then tell us about it. if you are shy and dont know how to flirt, tell him,"sorry, i dont seem to have learnt how to flirt... lol".... pretty lame advice i know: just stay yourself! i mean dont be a fake, dont get stuck up. let it go! that will do the magic. and another thing, dont ever go after him, it should always be from the both sides. do this.
 

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Well for one thing he is probably used to women giving it up easy and quick, and serving themselves to him on a platter.

So I wouldn't do that.
 

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Also I am currently going through all the fighters' profiles to see who is out of Vegas, and hot. I have found two of of Vegas... Not exactly beauties. I have 3 more pages to go. Feel free to make the process faster with a PM. :D
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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iqqi said:
Well for one thing he is probably used to women giving it up easy and quick, and serving themselves to him on a platter.

So I wouldn't do that.
Yep. I'm sure he'd turn down all the hundreds of birds he can easily get for the prude. This isn't Hollywood.

Hell I can hear him now, "Yeah Jim, I know I'm the party type, but these hot models/actresses are getting to easy for me. I want a challenge. Wheres that girl who lives miles away, and won't give up for about a month?"

Not to mention, it's a bit intimidating knowing this guy has no problem getting laid with whoever. He's dated the Hollywood types I'm sure...so...
Knowing? Never assume for a start honey.


This were me (god forbid), just shag him, and then be wicked. I doubt he'd want to settle, so being a booty call might be your best bet.
 

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I doubt he'd want to settle, so being a booty call might be your best bet.
cant agree with u at this. havent u seen the hundreds of fighters, boxers and champions all married and settled and having kids. lol

fighting is a profession and teh person she is going to be with is more than just being a famous fighter.
 

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cant agree with u at this. havent u seen the hundreds of fighters, boxers and champions all married and settled and having kids. lol

fighting is a profession and teh person she is going to be with is more than just being a famous fighter.
No, and from being in the fighting circle myself, it's a party lifestyle after all the intense training.

See how this works? I'm IN the circle, and can give reliable facts. You're NOT and have no experience with MMA and have pulled that assumption out of your arse.

Look at the facts, he was out PARTYING for a weekend. He's dated HOLLYWOOD types (so Sunny says) and not settled. How have you synthesised your Jerry Springers final thought, from all these facts?

And I want you to name these hundred of famous fighters who've settled down with wife and kids.
 

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WesCottII said:
Yep. I'm sure he'd turn down all the hundreds of birds he can easily get for the prude. This isn't Hollywood.

Hell I can hear him now, "Yeah Jim, I know I'm the party type, but these hot models/actresses are getting to easy for me. I want a challenge. Wheres that girl who lives miles away, and won't give up for about a month?"
Be careful of men's advice on this. Just like they say women don't know what they want, same with men. All men think they want a woman who will sleep with them right away and acquiesce to their whims, however most women's experience will tell you that is not what works. Just like all women say they want a nice guy, but that doesn't always seem to work.

My ex was semi famous, and had groupies up the wazoo. I stood out. He sought me out, not the other way around. I have experience here.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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WesCottII said:
Look at the facts, he was out PARTYING for a weekend. He's dated HOLLYWOOD types (so Sunny says) and not settled. How have you synthesised your Jerry Springers final thought, from all these facts?
I will say this is important, however.

He definately may not be the settling type. But even if Sunny isn't looking for commitment, she asked how to stand out.



EDIT: Frank M. is pretty effin hot. Is it Frank? :D
 

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a fighters life is a lonely life, you get fame but they're all aquintances. I used to box from intermediate all the way to high school, then after the first UFC I took up jujitsu, was in a gang. Was well respected but just wanted to be loved by a female and not just admired. When you hang with him, give him attention. laugh at his jokes. When he touches you, enjoy his human touch. Don't just let him buy you stuff buy him stuff show him you like him. Make it easy for the dude. you know turn on that whip appeal. Like Robin Givens did to Mike Tyson.
 

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jacob said:
a fighters life is a lonely life, you get fame but they're all aquintances. I used to box from intermediate all the way to high school, then after the first UFC I took up jujitsu, was in a gang. Was well respected but just wanted to be loved by a female and not just admired. When you hang with him, give him attention. laugh at his jokes. When he touches you, enjoy his human touch. Don't just let him buy you stuff buy him stuff show him you like him. Make it easy for the dude. you know turn on that whip appeal. Like Robin Givens did to Mike Tyson.
jacob, i completely agree with you.
show interest back without taking him for all he is worth.
that, plain and simple, are words to live by.
 

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Be careful of men's advice on this. Just like they say women don't know what they want, same with men. All men think they want a woman who will sleep with them right away and acquiesce to their whims, however most women's experience will tell you that is not what works. Just like all women say they want a nice guy, but that doesn't always seem to work.

My ex was semi famous, and had groupies up the wazoo. I stood out. He sought me out, not the other way around. I have experience here.
Yeah, wicked.

Thing is though, where did she say he wanted to settle? He sounds like a party guy and a woman who will sleep with him straightaway is probably his meat and potatoes.

P.S If that M is Frank Mir, he's a tool and he can't fight.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You're just one of many. Get in line, sister. Find you someone without so much social status. To him you're just another hoe.
 
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Mavrick could be right Sunny but in the case the UFC fighter has a bit of interest for you the advice jacob gave is your winning strategy.

Good luck.
 

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A case of the maiden taming the beast. All fantasy aside, this guy will ultimately focus his life on cracking heads and bones. He wants just to want but in his gut he feels nothing longterm except the feel of force against his chin.

To him a woman is a passing pleasure until his next match. You want to be different than the rest? Don't have any expectations of romance from the beast and you'll go further with him than with hangers on and attention slvts.

Realize that his goal is not to cure cancer but to inflict as much damage to himself and others as he can. This is what turns him on, not the lingering smell of your shampoo.
 

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Haha whoah whoah...I never said the C word here. Who said settle down??

We got to be real good friends over the weekend. Hung out day and night all three days, he was going to sneak me into the fight since he had front row (couldnt get me an actual SEAT but in there) but I bought off scalpers for the most amazing seats ever $200. AWESOME..but thats a different story for a different day. Had dinner, I know his life story. I was there on business (radio shows) and he came to our after party and stayed when he could have been at GSP's and hopping all over the damn place. Kept telling me we should go to the casino, gave me his number, stumbled back to the hotel with me then passed out. (fvck! haha) Texted back and forth a few after the weekend. He is a class act. I don't take him as running around banging hoes all the time. His phone was going off in my room when I was bugging him "you're tapping out?? You're not suppose to tap out!" He didnt reply to whatever texts he was getting and I said "ah, now the bootycalls are starting..haha" And he said "no no, no bootycalls.." Haha. He just got out of a longterm relationship with someone (if I say who you will know who he is..lol) so he is just having fun right now, nothing wrong with that. I never said I wanted the guy to propose. I can only imaginr a fighters lifestyle..I got a good taste of it this past weekend. (its fun!)

Anyway, iqqi...haha, he isn't FROM Vegas, but now trains and resides there. ;)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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