studentofseduction92
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Hi guys,
I have been reading about seduction and the Red Pill since about 10 months and implementing it into my life. It has brought me a lot of success but I am yet to internalize all the mindsets and succumb to my old ways of thinking and acting occasionally. This might be a little long, I just needed some input from you guys about this situation I am in right now. So here goes:
I used to be a blue pilled nice guy who sucked with women but after coming across TRP and other dating and attraction material, I was thrilled with the idea of being able to get one night stands or Same Night Lays. I concentrated all my efforts to achieve this and as of today, I have had 10 SNLs and pulling women on the first night after a date (I meet girls through internet dating) now seems to come fairly easily to me. However, I have problems keeping the girls I pull in my life. Previously, I used to be so fascinated with having pulled a girl on the first night, that I would then pursue them hard right from the very next day and end up doing needy things and lose them eventually. I also lost a few girls because of pulling them the first night as they felt slutty for having slept with me the very first night and did not want to talk to me again.
Therefore, recently I have been trying to not escalate and pull girls that I really like after just the first date and I have been trying to go slow and steady. However, recently I met a girl online that seemed really fun and she is really cute. I suggested we meet up and she was ready to do so during the weekend. As I was not going to be in town on the weekend, she agreed to meet me after work on a weeknight.
We had a great date and we were having great fun and the vibe was very flirty but I consciously made an effort not to sexualize the conversation too much. Finally after having a few drinks and something to eat, it was already around midnight and I suggested we grab an ice cream at another place as I wanted to venue change and continue the date for a while longer. I did not however intend to pull her. We started walking to the next venue, but after a few steps she said, she doesn't want to walk because she was wearing heels and suggested that her house was close by and that she might have some ice cream in her house and that we could have that.
Though I had no intention of pulling her, I thought I would have come across as a wuss if I turned down her invitation to go back to hers and that she might think I wasn't interested so I went back with her. However, it turned out that she hardly had any ice cream left and we ended up ordering some more. In the meanwhile, she had invited me into her bedroom and we were sitting on her bed. She was being very playful and touching me a lot and I went for the kiss and she enthusiastically returned my kiss and we made out for a while. The kissing then turned into some heavy petting and she told me how she would have loved to go all the way and that if we had met on the weekend, we could have done that because tonight was the last day of her period. However, me made out some more and finally had ice cream.
It was very late by this time and she had to work tomorrow. She seemed torn between having me there and telling me to leave as it was very late. She would say that she needed to get to bed and that I needed to leave now and when I made an attempt to get my jacket and call a cab she would suddenly start making out with me again and pull be into bed and lay beside me resting her head on my chest. It was almost approaching dawn now, and finally I decided to take a cab and she changed into her nightclothes. When my cab arrived she kissed me passionately again and I left her place.
The next day I decided to just check in with her as it seemed rude to say nothing but at the same time I did not want to get into a long drawn text conversation and sound needy as I have done that in the past and lost girls. So I just texted her asking if she made it to work and joked about me keeping her up all night and how she probably hates me for doing that. She replied saying she made it to work an hour late and that she did not hate me and she jokingly said she was a little angry with herself for having stayed up so late. I ended the conversation with "Take care. Let's talk soon
And in the meanwhile, if you do come this side of town, do let me know"
She did not reply to this and that is where this situation stands now. I really like this girl and want to see her again. I am going to a beach party town this weekend with my buddies and will be having fun and meeting a lot of women there. I plan to go have fun and shoot her a text after I am back asking her to catch up again. Is this the best course of action? I know I have had problems in the past,with giving girls space after the first date having gone very well. But do I not text her for a week after making out with her and all the heavy petting or do I need to shoot a text in between?
I have this urge to let her know that I don't view her as just an ONS and would like to see her again, but at the same time feel that it might come across as needy and push her away. She really opened up to me when we were back at her place and told me about the weird ways guys have acted before and also that all her previous boyfriends were insecure and needy and how I just seemed normal and chilled out and that is what led her to bring me back home with her and that she doesn't do this with every guy she meets.
I have ****ed up situations like this many a time with girls I really like and I am in the same situation now and don't want to do the same. Would love to hear your feedback and tips guys!!!
Thanks in advance.
I have been reading about seduction and the Red Pill since about 10 months and implementing it into my life. It has brought me a lot of success but I am yet to internalize all the mindsets and succumb to my old ways of thinking and acting occasionally. This might be a little long, I just needed some input from you guys about this situation I am in right now. So here goes:
I used to be a blue pilled nice guy who sucked with women but after coming across TRP and other dating and attraction material, I was thrilled with the idea of being able to get one night stands or Same Night Lays. I concentrated all my efforts to achieve this and as of today, I have had 10 SNLs and pulling women on the first night after a date (I meet girls through internet dating) now seems to come fairly easily to me. However, I have problems keeping the girls I pull in my life. Previously, I used to be so fascinated with having pulled a girl on the first night, that I would then pursue them hard right from the very next day and end up doing needy things and lose them eventually. I also lost a few girls because of pulling them the first night as they felt slutty for having slept with me the very first night and did not want to talk to me again.
Therefore, recently I have been trying to not escalate and pull girls that I really like after just the first date and I have been trying to go slow and steady. However, recently I met a girl online that seemed really fun and she is really cute. I suggested we meet up and she was ready to do so during the weekend. As I was not going to be in town on the weekend, she agreed to meet me after work on a weeknight.
We had a great date and we were having great fun and the vibe was very flirty but I consciously made an effort not to sexualize the conversation too much. Finally after having a few drinks and something to eat, it was already around midnight and I suggested we grab an ice cream at another place as I wanted to venue change and continue the date for a while longer. I did not however intend to pull her. We started walking to the next venue, but after a few steps she said, she doesn't want to walk because she was wearing heels and suggested that her house was close by and that she might have some ice cream in her house and that we could have that.
Though I had no intention of pulling her, I thought I would have come across as a wuss if I turned down her invitation to go back to hers and that she might think I wasn't interested so I went back with her. However, it turned out that she hardly had any ice cream left and we ended up ordering some more. In the meanwhile, she had invited me into her bedroom and we were sitting on her bed. She was being very playful and touching me a lot and I went for the kiss and she enthusiastically returned my kiss and we made out for a while. The kissing then turned into some heavy petting and she told me how she would have loved to go all the way and that if we had met on the weekend, we could have done that because tonight was the last day of her period. However, me made out some more and finally had ice cream.
It was very late by this time and she had to work tomorrow. She seemed torn between having me there and telling me to leave as it was very late. She would say that she needed to get to bed and that I needed to leave now and when I made an attempt to get my jacket and call a cab she would suddenly start making out with me again and pull be into bed and lay beside me resting her head on my chest. It was almost approaching dawn now, and finally I decided to take a cab and she changed into her nightclothes. When my cab arrived she kissed me passionately again and I left her place.
The next day I decided to just check in with her as it seemed rude to say nothing but at the same time I did not want to get into a long drawn text conversation and sound needy as I have done that in the past and lost girls. So I just texted her asking if she made it to work and joked about me keeping her up all night and how she probably hates me for doing that. She replied saying she made it to work an hour late and that she did not hate me and she jokingly said she was a little angry with herself for having stayed up so late. I ended the conversation with "Take care. Let's talk soon
She did not reply to this and that is where this situation stands now. I really like this girl and want to see her again. I am going to a beach party town this weekend with my buddies and will be having fun and meeting a lot of women there. I plan to go have fun and shoot her a text after I am back asking her to catch up again. Is this the best course of action? I know I have had problems in the past,with giving girls space after the first date having gone very well. But do I not text her for a week after making out with her and all the heavy petting or do I need to shoot a text in between?
I have this urge to let her know that I don't view her as just an ONS and would like to see her again, but at the same time feel that it might come across as needy and push her away. She really opened up to me when we were back at her place and told me about the weird ways guys have acted before and also that all her previous boyfriends were insecure and needy and how I just seemed normal and chilled out and that is what led her to bring me back home with her and that she doesn't do this with every guy she meets.
I have ****ed up situations like this many a time with girls I really like and I am in the same situation now and don't want to do the same. Would love to hear your feedback and tips guys!!!
Thanks in advance.

