PUAs

[Method Boy]

There's nothing wrong with self-improvement.

 

[Distant Light]

When people who haven't spent a lot of time in the PU community, they tend to think routines, routines, routines. That's all they really think about at first. Routines are such a small percentage of what's out there.

100% true

As for Bvbidd I see what your saying about fun, which I should worded better, but ya you can still have fun and be fun without, like before I even found out about these sites, I wasn't no loser and I would get gfs its just it was the amount that I wanted, and it wasn't the quality either only 1 girl was about a 7 that I had went out with before. But I was what you would considered the cool kid that doesn't talk to the losers because it was just me and my group and we would have our own fun not worrying about anyone.

All the PUA skills aren't to impress nobody, I also see what you were saying about changing yourself, but you have to bring out certain sides of you that you don't use in certain situations. Its kinda like When you approach you are showing yout Fragile side but when your making fun of your little cousin your now being like the better side of you, you would do so much better if you was to act like how you act when your with your little cousin around women that you want.

I say this is a skill and skill based is because most of the stuff you can't figure out unless your in field. Samething with a Job interview it is a skill to learn how to show your best self at a job interview. That is why they have books and seminars on something as a job interview. There is certain things in field that you see that is hard to explain in text.

Kind of like if you was learning to be a pro baseball player, at first you just swing at the ball when ever you see that it might be going str8 down or when you see the ball coming your way and you just follow the ball to see where its at. As you get better and be "PRO" baseball player, you have like this intuition to where you need to swing, when and where do you have to dive to catch that ball.

This applies to seduction because at the beginning you don't feel that and it feels weird and you think of it as this hard complicated thing, because you see so much material on it. But then when you actually start getting better you can sense when a girls BT is going high, you can sense how she is emotionally feeling towards you right now. An then at the end of the day you can replay it in your mind and see what you did to get that lay or didn't do to get it.

This is why some guys never even do an approach because they are still stuck at phase one, and the other guys are just real good now and they've only been here for awhile. Its the guys who work hardier.

Reason I say people in seduction communities are bound to have fuvked more girls than people who never learned it is because, the abundance of AFCs in the world, is so high its no joke, just look at how quiet a train ride can be, or just check it out how many people just sit and watch a beautiful girl walk by and don't approach. (To encourage my friends I told them if you ever call out any girl on the street then you must approach, which is starting to help them) Most naturals don't cold approach, its rare you will see any guys cold approaching even though lately you see other guys in the community approaching, kind of like fight club how it was all over world. Thing is most people stick to girls in there social circle, and like work, school, and a select few will try clubs and bars. I think reason why it has to do with something which is talked about in Natural Game, about Attainability. Guys just don't think a girl on the street or a girl with 5 guys is attainable.

But I'm glad most guys can actually see that PUAs don't just do routine routine routine, because that is as important as the other things taught.

 

[squirrels]

I just came to the realization that PUAs study and work to impress random people who were equal to them in the first place.

PUAs don't care about IMPRESSING women, they care about F*CKING them. And they don't even really CARE...it's a GAME to them. Something fun and challenging to do.

You're confusing PUAs with a bunch of SoSuave.net forum nerds who throw around words they've heard like "neghit" and "DHV", acting like they know all about picking up women to impress people over the Internet while they sit home and watch porn and lament how they don't have the balls to DO anything about it.

Those people are NOT PUAs. In fact, I doubt there are any PUAs on this forum at all.

 

[everywomanshero]

This whole notion of PUA vs DJ vs XYZ is silly to begin with. If you really look at the 'community' almost NOTHING was ever invented. Mostly it was taken from other walks of life. If we use the definition of PUAs as the guys who sell products, let me ask you this?

Does anyone really believe PUAs invented the concept of body language? Does anyone believe that PUAs invented comedy, acting, or exagerating the truth? Does anyone really believe that PUAs invented spray tanning? Does anyone really believe that PUAs were the first to recognize gendered talk differences? Does anyone really believe PUAs invented working out? Does anyone really believe PUAs invented social proof? Does anyone really believe PUAs were the first to note the patterns of evolutionary psychology? OK maybe something silly like having no place to sit besides the bed (which works really well), but the big picture concepts can be found in text pre-dating any modern PUA.

Hell no, they invented practically nothing. They took ideas from other places and found a practical use for them. Some of these ideas worked so well for them, they began teaching others how they do it. As far as inventing these concepts, I don't think that's the case at all. So when someone says PUAs are this|that they are really being silly. They are insulting thousands of people far more accomplished in life than any PUAs and likely the person winging the insult as well.

 

[Charlie Gordon]

Are there are PUAs on this site?

Uh can you explain to me why you feel the need to spend your time on a hobby of which is to study how to impress people who don't even like you in the first place?

Do you like walking around with people knowing you think you need to skills to get sex? I mean really.. Why would you need skills to get sex if your male and she's female?

I hope you're not suggesting that a man can simply walk up to a woman and take sex from her. I have this picture of a guy with a club and a loin cloth. He should probably join this forum.

I'd say it's important to have something going for you aside from a Y chromosome if you want to get laid and that is especially true if you are looking for a girlfriend.

Call it skill, call it personality, call it charm... call it whatever you want. Some guys just have it and other men spend their time on forums like this one

It can be developed.

Took me several years and I am still a work in progress.

But I don't recite lines out of a book. I've learned to think on my feet.

There are some wonderful teachers in the PUA community who are enthusiastic about taking students under their wing without asking for much in return. Then there are businessmen who try to make a dollar off of every lonely man with an income, and there are others who convince you that you need to memorize lines and perform routines in order to attract women.

For some men, a canned act might be the only way that they can get their foot in the door with a group. They might not realize their potential to be charming and outgoing; hence, a beginner routine or tactic that is field tested and mother approved might go over so well as to convince them that they are smart enough, tall enough, handsome enough, manly enough, etc... to enjoy and succeed at meeting women.

The goal of some members of the community is to abandon gimmicks and tactics in favor of legitimate, spontaneous male behavior... but that still entails skill that often takes years to develop! Even if it eventually becomes second nature, skill is skill.

There are other people in the community who dissect social interactions in a manner that is too artificial and frankly disturbing to be of any help to us. I avoided these people and encourage you to do the same.

When all else fails, trust instinct... the more experienced and skillful you become, the more often you will succeed.