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Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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PU the daughter when she's with her father?

BearsFan4Life

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I'm asking for general advice for when I spot a HB with her father, not necessarily just this situation.

So here was the situation:
It was at work today. Her father was in my store with her buying some merchandise. It was a nice easy 15 or 20 minute sale.
She gave me buying signals every time I gave her EC or asked her a question. She was at least 20 years old and her father about 50-55. I know I earned the father's respect, but I don't have a clue how I could have number closed her.

Certainly some DJs here have number closed with her father immediately present... share some stories.

Thanks
 

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The Sperminator

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Haha I'm in this position all the time but usually with mother and daughter. I work at a department store and tt feels so damn akward to ask the girl for her number infront of the parent. I've only done it once and it was really weird. If you really want it just ask who cares if the parent is there but I usually won't unless I really want to go out with her.
 
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BearsFan4Life said:
She was at least 20 years old and her father about 50-55. I know I earned the father's respect, but I don't have a clue how I could have number closed her.

Certainly some DJs here have number closed with her father immediately present... share some stories.

Thanks
Father present - this may be an impossible close - unless she has a "liberal" hippie father!!! I don't think it has ever been done!!!!!!
 

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Would be tough to do so without the father taking notice.
 

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BearsFan4Life said:
I'm asking for general advice for when I spot a HB with her father, not necessarily just this situation.

So here was the situation:
It was at work today. Her father was in my store with her buying some merchandise. It was a nice easy 15 or 20 minute sale.
She gave me buying signals every time I gave her EC or asked her a question. She was at least 20 years old and her father about 50-55. I know I earned the father's respect, but I don't have a clue how I could have number closed her.

Certainly some DJs here have number closed with her father immediately present... share some stories.

Thanks
I am glad I am not in your spot!! The thought gives me chills... PU in presence of father... New Level Of Skills... or madness?
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

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Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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Never tried this, but I'm guessing you just treat the father as any other normal c0ckblocker/obstacle.

You win him over by DHVing yourself to him, so that he understands if his daughter was to be screwing anyone, it'd better be YOU!
 

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That'd be a ballsy move.

You don't even have to try to win the father over if you had her in your hand, though. Just slip her a paper with your digits when daddy isn't looking. She'll call.
 
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