Psychedelics and other misc psychoactive chemicals

[Bible_Belt]

fwiw, if you ever eat too many mushrooms and think you're going to die, you're not.

 

[MagnuM]

MagnuM: You can order DMT containing plants legally off the internet and do a simple extraction on them. I'm planning on it some time this year. The Spirit Molecule makes it sound fascinating. pooparu: Hippies are the key

Oh yes. I know that my friend. Just doing an extraction in an apartment you share with 3 other people might not be the best thing to do. I'm gonna wait it out until I live by myself.

But then...again...

I might just do it anyway. I am at college that is why I have room mates.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Gotta have a sitter. I've seen a guy punch through an aquarium and try to crawl in. There was a bad cut on his neck, and he most likely would have just slashed his throat on the glass had we not been there to pull him out and hold him down.

He was raving about how great it was 10 minutes later, though.

Yea man, there was one time I tried to get around my television. I'm so glad I didn't try to go through it... god.. I can only imagine snapping out of a trip after putting your fist through an aquarium and bleeding everywhere. So not good times.

800th post - I rule *fist in the air*

 

[ER!C L!VE]

double post

 

[Serialized3]

Gotta have a sitter. I've seen a guy punch through an aquarium and try to crawl in. There was a bad cut on his neck, and he most likely would have just slashed his throat on the glass had we not been there to pull him out and hold him down.

I'd 2nd having a sitter. The only thing I consciously remember from my first serious salvia trip was taking a serious bong-rip of 10x, then watching my arm (with trailers) push the bong away from me. Then...

After that, I had a serious trip. It started off as sort of a backflip feeling, an then it sort of felt my like the rood of my mouth split open (scary). After that, I remember grassy rolling hills and being in my parent's bedroom, and talking both to my mom and my roommate (neither were there)

When I came to, the couch I was sitting on was flipped over, my bong was knocked over, and I was standing in the middle of the room (I had been seated on the couch).

The weirdest part was with my second serious trip. I had a sort of deja vu and I was realizing that my roommate was babysitting me like in the first trip.

I had my roomate babysit me that time, and he said all i did was lay on the floor and rub my legs.

Those trips are only a few minutes, but they DO seem like a lifetime.

After I trip salvia, I always get really sweaty and grouchy and immediately need a short nap. However, I am relaxed that I am back in the "real world" and feel like I appreciate it more. Anyone else get that with salvia?

 

[Serialized3]

fwiw, if you ever eat too many mushrooms and think you're going to die, you're not.

Exactly.

Althought none of my friends would believe me, i once ate around a half ounce of good mushrooms.

All that did was make me trip for about 20 hours straight. :woo:

 

[MagnuM]

Exactly.

Althought none of my friends would believe me, i once ate around a half ounce of good mushrooms.

All that did was make me trip for about 20 hours straight. :woo:

You sir...

Are extreme

You NEED to go into detail about that.

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

1. Is weed considered a psychadelic? I once did so much that when I was pissing, everything shrunk and I felt like I was in a movie set... like it was all plastic and fake, kinda dreamy and I was like... holy sh't... sh't... wow... am I pissing right now? lol

2. Where do you get salvia and how much should you do?

3. Isn't there long term damage if you use shrooms, ecstasy and salvia?

4. Anyone try Peyote (sp) heard it was like salvia.

 

[Serialized3]

You sir...

Are extreme

You NEED to go into detail about that.

No problem.

I've heard a lot of people say that you can't describe a mushroom trip. That's a lie.

DISCLAIMER: I believe that every drug affects every person in a different way, so your milage may vary. I suggest that you be in a healthy state of mind before doing any drug, including alcohol and MJ.

The only rules I have with myself with mushrooms is that I must be in a healthy state of mind, I must be outdoors, and it's preferable to be out during the day.

From my experiences, a mushroom trip has three identifiable parts. One affects the "body", one affects the "mind" (It obviously affects your brain's perception, and your brain determines and interprets how your body is feeling.) The other part I believe affects your "soul" or at least your perception.

The first part is the the body high. I've heard this is the most common part of the mushroom trip, especially from low-quality shrooms. To me, it feels similar to getting into a hot tub after spending a few hours in the wintry cold.

The second part is the sensory affects. The visual hallucinations are mild, it seems like the things in your peripheral vision are sort of waving around. Patterns, from the branches and needles on the pine trees in the forest, to the yellow and orange flames of the campfire, to even the patterns in the tile on your bathroom floor, seem to merge and meld around like a magic eye poster. You aren't going to see stuff that isn't there, like demons, pink elephants, or trains (at least I never have). One of the ways I describe it is as very similar to blowing snow flowing across the ground, if you've ever seen that. Staring at the clouds is really fun on mushrooms.

However, the most important part is the part that affects your soul or worldview. For me, it gives a sense of overall well being, like everything in the world is at peace. I began to understand that the small stuff doesn't matter, and let them go. You laugh at nearly anything, and you can't help from staring at things and smiling.

The only thing I've noticed in increasing the dosage is the lenght of the trip. A few bites, and you might trip for about an hour. Eat a half ounce, and you might be tripping for 20 hours, full of energy and unable to sleep. I've never noticed a change in the intensity of the trip.

Be careful.

 

[Fluffy]

I get huge space distortions off acid. Things seemed massive or closed in. I remember lying on the couch and it seemed to stretch off into the distance with the rest of the room like a 2d image at the end. Also, it felt as though I was slowly sticking to the chair and becoming part of it and I had to concentrate on the TV really hard to stop from losing it, the tv looked like a blur aswell.

Once I was in some toilet at a dudes house and there was a hole in the wall all you could see beyond it was darkness and it felt like that hole was trying to get me to close the toilet door so the whole little room could disjoint from the rest of the universe, it was fairly scary.

 

[Serialized3]

1. Is weed considered a psychadelic? I once did so much that when I was pissing, everything shrunk and I felt like I was in a movie set... like it was all plastic and fake, kinda dreamy and I was like... holy sh't... sh't... wow... am I pissing right now? lol

It's considered a psychotropic. FWIW you can get pretty messed up off it. I actually have what some people might describe as the "moments of epiphany" on bud, as opposed to hallucinogens as they do. It definately alters your worldview (at least in my experience)

2. Where do you get salvia and how much should you do?

Head/"Tobacco"/"Smoking" shops. Quite a few have stopped carrying it because the employees were stealing it. You can order it online too, but idk if they ship to ca-na-duh. I'd reccomend 3x or 5x if you've never done it before.

3. Isn't there long term damage if you use shrooms, ecstasy and salvia?

Probably. These are things to try a couple times (you probably won't like salvia much). I know shrooms do at least temporary damage to your immune system. I've never done E so idk about that.

4. Anyone try Peyote (sp) heard it was like salvia.

No idea. My friends have told me mescaline was a lot like mushrooms, but better. More cerebral.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Isn't there long term damage if you use shrooms, ecstasy and salvia?

Shrooms are the least likely to hurt you. You never know what you're getting with ecstacy. Most pills are not pure mdma; they are cut with about everything from speed to heroin. This makes ecstacy the most dangerous of those drugs, imo.

One of the unusual characteristics of psychadelic drugs is that after a dose wears off, and often for several days or weeks afterward, the user feels less like taking another dose. This is in start contrast to coke, crack, heroin, tobacco, and to some extent alcohol. With those drugs, after you have it, you want more. With psychadelics like shrooms and acid, after you have them, you want them less.

The only thing I've noticed in increasing the dosage is the lenght of the trip. A few bites, and you might trip for about an hour. Eat a half ounce, and you might be tripping for 20 hours, full of energy and unable to sleep. I've never noticed a change in the intensity of the trip.

fwiw, um call it a friend's, experience was the opposite. Too many caused an extremely intense experience, laughter until sides hurt, getting forget-your-name stupid, then sense of impending death and later re-learning everything you forgot by getting so stupid earlier. But there are different strains of shrooms that have very different qualities; maybe you had different stuff.

 

[MagnuM]

if you want to know about the Diviner's Sage, go to http://www.sagewisdom.org/

 

[Pimp101]

1. Is weed considered a psychadelic? I once did so much that when I was pissing, everything shrunk and I felt like I was in a movie set... like it was all plastic and fake, kinda dreamy and I was like... holy sh't... sh't... wow... am I pissing right now? lol

Weed is pretty unique in that it comes under several classifications, to quote erowid: "Intoxicant; Stimulant; Psychedelic; Depressant". So it definatly has psychedelic effects.

3. Isn't there long term damage if you use shrooms, ecstasy and salvia?

Mushrooms and salvia won't cause long term damage, or short term damage for that matter.

Ecstasy will cause mid term damage if done too often (keep it to no more than once every one or two months, three is better) since it depletes your seratonin which will make you depressed and anxious. As far as modern research on it goes, there doesn't seem to be any long term damage with moderation, but heavy users will cause potentially permanent damage to their seratoin systems. The other catch, as Bible_Belt pointed out, is that ecstacy pills tend to have adulterants in them. The most common ones are amphetamine and methamphetamine. Adulterants like cocaine and heroin are rumours (why would anyone cut with an expensive drug!?). You can confirm this by looking at sites like ecstasydata.org.

 

[MagnuM]

I personally think that this forum section out of the entire board is the best! Bah.

Anyway, I've heard that magic mushrooms grow in Angus Beef cow manure. True or false...

 

[Bible_Belt]

AF has had ex with Heroin in it, but this is a very limited sample from long ago.

Shrooms grow in the manure of most grain-fed animals, typically cows. "Angus" is a only breed of cow; shrooms don't care. I have heard, but not verified, that some cow feed has been treated to keep shrooms from growing in it after it passes through the cow. Cow owners in places like Florida might use that type of feed to discourage trespassing shroom-pickers.

For anyone who gets any ideas about wandering cow fields, you have to look out for bulls. Typically, there is only one per field. He'll be the biggest cow out there. The other cows won't bother you, but the 2,000 pound bull will knock you down and stomp your brains out if he's in a bad mood. Bulls can usually outrun you, and also charge right through the fence if they can't.

 

[MagnuM]

Only makes sense. Crap is crap.

 

[Fluffy]

Ecstasy will cause mid term damage if done too often (keep it to no more than once every one or two months, three is better) since it depletes your seratonin which will make you depressed and anxious. As far as modern research on it goes, there doesn't seem to be any long term damage with moderation, but heavy users will cause potentially permanent damage to their seratoin systems. The other catch, as Bible_Belt pointed out, is that ecstacy pills tend to have adulterants in them. The most common ones are amphetamine and methamphetamine. Adulterants like cocaine and heroin are rumours (why would anyone cut with an expensive drug!?). You can confirm this by looking at sites like ecstasydata.org.

There was a year or so back then when I used Ecstacy on about a monthly basis. The problem with it is it makes you feel more anxious in your everyday life. When on the drug you are more social and whatever the other effects are. However off the drug you become less sociable than you usually are. They say you should wait 3 weeks between dosages but I say 3 months. I dont do it anymore as I dont run in those circles any more and it has also become too expensive.

I am really keen to try Salvia, but its illegal here, and also Ketamine Ive heard is insane.

 

[MagnuM]

There was a year or so back then when I used Ecstacy on about a monthly basis. The problem with it is it makes you feel more anxious in your everyday life. When on the drug you are more social and whatever the other effects are. However off the drug you become less sociable than you usually are. They say you should wait 3 weeks between dosages but I say 3 months. I dont do it anymore as I dont run in those circles any more and it has also become too expensive.

I am really keen to try Salvia, but its illegal here, and also Ketamine Ive heard is insane.

Heh...Ketamine...that is extreme. beware of the K-hole.

2c-b me wants to try.

 

[Pimp101]

There was a year or so back then when I used Ecstacy on about a monthly basis. The problem with it is it makes you feel more anxious in your everyday life. When on the drug you are more social and whatever the other effects are. However off the drug you become less sociable than you usually are. They say you should wait 3 weeks between dosages but I say 3 months. I dont do it anymore as I dont run in those circles any more and it has also become too expensive.

I am really keen to try Salvia, but its illegal here, and also Ketamine Ive heard is insane.

Exactly, the anxiety penetrates normal life. I did it once a month (twice in 2 weeks once!) when I discovered it but it proved to be too much. Now I keep rolls to special occasions only.

Ketamine is a really fun drug. It's not just a horse tranquelizer like people say, they routinely use it in hospitals as an anesthetic for children and elderly since its especially safe in terms of overdosing. It puts you into this kind of dreamy state at lower doses. At higher doses you enter the K-hole which feels like you're speeding through tunnels at first, then it comes to a kind of singularity where you're in a place without time or distance. Your imagination becomes incredibly powerful on it too, you can imagine yourself in any place or situation with lucid detail. Tippy stuff :rock: