Prostitution - should you, would you, could you?

[Poonani Maker]

If you had the time, the money, or the proximity, would you do it? There are basically 3 destinations in the world for cheap "legal" paid sex minus the plane ticket: Tijuana, Mexico; Bangkok, Thailand; and Amsterdam, Netherlands.

I mean $30 a pop or hour is damn cheap guys. Would you do it if you lived near it? Are you THAT addicted to sex with many different girls? Do you think that you would start tiring of the situation and return to your hometown?

What I'm getting at is, do we need to just get it all out of our systems as males? Just go on a fvcking spree and slam many different pvssies w/ condom in a short period of time to find out what we're looking for? Or do we just waste a whole lot of time "Dating" before the fvck and trying to find the right fit for us? It can be time-consuming AND monetarily draining doing it the latter way, and dare I say, not necessarily safer.

What I'm saying is, I'm scared to death of marrying one woman who's infatuated with me. The unknown. In MY family, once you're married, it's for life. There is no thoughts of divorce, but you know how women are, and how we all can be let down.

I've been reading that "Arranged" marriages are the pathway to successful marriages because it starts from a logical decision - the parents pick the spouse for their daughter/son. I'm considering marrying a woman who's mom and dad are sold on me as a future son. Her mom gah-gah's over me every time I run into her.

Love, the powerful human emotion, is the genesis of most American marriages of which only 30 some odd percent only succeed. Whereas the Logic of arranged marriages last 90% of the time over in other countries.

While it may seem to be easier to stay married to the one you "love" in the beginning, this may not be so evident. Love clouds rational thinking.

I have a gal who thinks she loves me and shows it too, but I also have another gal whose parents want us to get married, and married Quick! without even courting really, and we're all of European descent.

In the middle ages Europeans of royalty used to get arranged all the time. Why is it so frowned upon now? Because we live in a f'd up country run by women and g@ys that thinks stigmatically, that gushy romance and whimsical "Love" is the ONLY start of a relationship between a man and a women, else "they (American spellbound culture) say" that you should never get married unless you love the person from the get-go. What is Love, though?

I think that the American definition of love is "infatuation" and until you have infatuation, you can't get married?? The "implied" or unquestioned rules by which we live here in America don't make one iota of sense.

Women *think* they wanta marry me, but don't you think their parents would have a better overall sense of who's best for their daughter having raised and lived with her all her life?

Too much individualism in America is the root cause of failed marriages. There's too much "I" this and "I" that and "me, me, me" that the 60% divorce is never a wonder.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

I have mixed feelings about the whole thing to be quite honest. It makes practical sense but its the whole moral/pride thing that holds me back.

I work a lot and travel quite a bit. I dont have the time to chase skirt like I used to. Considering the time investment it costs me more to try and meet normal women when seeking out casual sex. Its different when you at home and you have your GF/FB on the go. Its when I travel that I think about it.

I also tire of the club scene and bar scene. I just dont have the energy to do it all the time. When Im with clients or suppliers I cant spend half the night hitting on women either. The last thing i want to do is have to go to a bar or nightclub on my own after a long day at work just in the hope that I could get some action. Its not a productive way to spend my time and I would rather save those odd occasions when I do go to a club or bar for friends.

Casual sex can also lead to a lot of problems. A **** buddy is all good and well but emotions almost always come into play over time. Someone invariably gets attached. You dont have this problem with pro's.

I also need variety in my life. I battle to stay faithful to women and have a very high sex drive. Its fine in the early stages of a relationship because they are ready to go three times a day. After a while its once a day then maybe 3 times a week. Before you know it, its once a week. So I fear I am going to be one of those bastards who will be a habitual cheater. Pro's mean that you dont have to juggle women. You just bang some broad and never see her again

The thought of paying for sex though is the only thing that stops me. Its not the money its the entire dodgy process. That, and the fact that I figure once you cross that barrier its something that could become a systematic habit. Once its systematic it can become an addiction.

 

[speakeasy]

Tijuana, Mexico; Bangkok, Thailand; and Amsterdam, Netherlands.

I considered getting a hooker in Amsterdam back in 2001. I walked around the red light district looking at women in the windows like they were mannequins. I saw guys that looked like they flew in from all over the planet just to stick their c-cks in a pink hole. Somehow it all just seemed so stupid. I felt grossed out looking at some of the scummy looking dudes walking out of the brothels, I said hell no and went back to my hostel. Last year, with a friend in Bangkok, I had an interesting experience. Now this guy is way more lascivious. He's Thai himself and getting hookers is just like a normal part of culture to him. I didn't want any part of it. Not so much for any moral reasons, I just thought the idea of paying a woman for sex like I'm paying for a business transaction is not sexy to me. And part of what makes sex fun to me is the whole game leading up to it. Not knowing if you're going to get laid, but working your way there. Making her hot little by little, grinding her on the dance floor to make her horny, getting over that last minute resistance, the foreplay, the making out. To me, 50% of the fun of sex is all the things that let up to it. The part where you blow your load in her is the icing on the cake. And that's a level of enjoyment I just can't get with a woman who I know wouldn't want sh*t to do with me unless I was paying her to spread her legs. Not sexy. Well anyway, my Thai buddy takes me to this bar, but as anyone who's been to Bangkok knows, there's can be little distinction between a bar a stripclub and a brothel, he already knows in advance I don't want any hookers. So after having a few beers, we go outside and there's a couple Thai hookers and their pimp. The pimp starts pushing the girls on us. My buddy decides to take one and he starts pressuring me. The Thai pimp and broken English is like "come on pick one, pick one, which you want? I get you any girl you want, pick one...here take her!" I gave in to the peer pressure. I didn't want to, but would look gay at this point with all these people standing there watching. So I get back to our hotel room in Bangkok, I'm actually pissed off that I was pressured into this because I am into prostitution at all, I find it pretty nasty. She gives a condom and I put it on. She starts blowing me. But I couldn't get hard. She starts trying to jerk me and I was still limp. Anything she tried to do, wasn't working. I had to lay there and close my eyes and pretend that the girl of my dreams was doing this shyt to me. That sorta worked and I started getting an erection. So then she climbed on top of me and stuck it in. Not more than a few seconds after, I went limp. I layed her on her back and started playing with her breasts and hoping that would help. It didn't. I gave up. I just went in the bathroom put my clothes back on and gave her the money for her time and left it at that. I lied and told my buddy I hit it. I guess I did, for about 2 seconds. Now look, I'm a guy that loves pvssy I ADORE it. But I had so many issues with the prostitution thing that I couldn't even get myself aroused. I hated being peer pressured into doing something I didn't want to do and was pissed at my buddy for doing that. But in retrospect, now that I know I don't have herpes, it was all another interesting experience to look back on. No regrets.

I mean $30 a pop or hour is damn cheap guys. Would you do it if you lived near it? Are you THAT addicted to sex with many different girls?

I would love to have sex with a different girl every week if I could. I don't think I'd ever get tired of it. But the idea of paying for it takes away from the sense of accomplishment. It's like the difference between climbing to the top of the mountain yourself or having a helicopter drop you off at the summit. Which is more rewarding? To know you got a lot of ass because you have game or because you walked into a brothel? In fact, I don't even consider brothel visits to even be included when tallying up your notches.

What I'm getting at is, do we need to just get it all out of our systems as males? Just go on a fvcking spree and slam many different pvssies w/ condom in a short period of time to find out what we're looking for?

I look at this way, I don't think there's any number of women you could fvck and still feel like you've had enough. It's an insatiable desire. I know of a dude that has a BANGIN' Columbian(hottest women on earth) girlfriend, she looks like a damn model, tall, shapely, elegantly beautiful, look dark hair. Yet from what I hear, the dude cheats on her left and right. It doesn't matter that his girl is what most guys would consider a 9, the desire for variety doesn't change. If you did get that 9 and marry her, that same pvssy is gonna start to get old after 20 years, for many guys. That's where things like love, family, values and loyalty comes in. You need something higher to rely on to carry you past your physical impulses to want to bang every skirt that walks by.

I've been reading that "Arranged" marriages are the pathway to successful marriages because it starts from a logical decision

In countries where there are arranged marriages, love simply isn't the main reason people get married. They get married primarily to satisfy family/tribe/clan obligations and to continue on their family and culture or religion first and foremost. Love as we understand it in the west is often irrelevent. Though that may be changing in traditional cultures with the influence of hollywood movies/advertising and such where that "ga-ga" feeling of love is what it's all about. I don't have any judgement's over other culture's ways of approaching love and marriage, it may work fine for them. I suppose there's pros and cons to their way as this is to ours. In our culture you have freedom and choice, but with that freedom and choice is also the freedom to fail.

While it may seem to be easier to stay married to the one you "love" in the beginning, this may not be so evident. Love clouds rational thinking.

I've heard that in some cultures, they regard that feeling of "love" as we see it in the west as almost some sort of craziness or mental illness. Certainly not a reason to marry someone. To them, you get married to join families.

In the middle ages Europeans of royalty used to get arranged all the time.

Probably for the preservation of wealth and power. There was no such thing as upward mobility in that age, neither in your place in life or your marriage partner. A peasant married another peasant, wealthy married wealthy and that was all there was to it.

What is Love, though?

Asking what is love is like asking what is friendship. It's not easy to define, but it is something that only genuine emerges with time and when 2 people have been through thick and thin together and are still there for each till the end.

I think that the American definition of love is "infatuation" and until you have infatuation, you can't get married?? The "implied" or unquestioned rules by which we live here in America don't make one iota of sense.

In a culture where people have the freedom to marry whoever they want, you need to have something to spark a level of interest that could lead to genuine love. And that's where infactuation comes in. It eventually wears off of course, but hopefully by the time it does, you'll have genuine love to replace it when the honeymoon period is over. Some people thing the infactuation stage is supposed to last forever and if it doens't, it means something is wrong. Nothing is further from the truth. Infactuation of anything wears off. When I get a new car, I feel infactuated, I'm crazy about the new smell, the new features, I can't wait to down to the garage in the morning to drive to work, can't wait to show it to my friends, etc etc. But afterawhile that initially buzz wears off. But if you choose a good car, you will still like it a lot 5 years in the future and thing it's a great, dependable car that looks great, suits your need and gets you around and be happy in that, long after the new cars smell and showroom shine has worn off.

Women *think* they wanta marry me, but don't you think their parents would have a better overall sense of who's best for their daughter having raised and lived with her all her life?

Depends on how well her parents know you. At the same time, they have no idea what the chemistry would be like between you two. You guys may clash horribly if you ever lived together. She might nag you to death, might be horrible in bed, may have extremely annoying habits, who knows. That's why I don't envy traditional cultures. I'd much rather try before I buy.

Too much individualism in America is the root cause of failed marriages. There's too much "I" this and "I" that and "me, me, me" that the 60% divorce is never a wonder.

I think 3 things contribute to the high divorce rate in America: selfishness, secularism, and isolation. In American society, a partner is supposed to make OUR lives better. You don't get married primarily because you have family obligations or for religious reasons, or to pass on your culture to the next generation. You get married mainly because it is something that is supposed to make you feel good, it's a form of self-actualization. That's where the selfish aspect comes in. Religious community is also a glue that tends hold marriages together in many cultures, but in a more secular society, you're less likely to have that to reinforce the marriage.

 

[oakraiderz2]

I wont pay for a girls meal, so why would i pay for sex?

 

[themann]

she should pay ME for sex

 

[Wiesman44]

she should pay ME for sex

ROFL. Why would she pay u when she could get sex from millions of other guys willing to do it for free.

 

[BlakeW5]

For me, prostitution is a no-go. I don't really disrespect it, it is the oldest profession in the world, but it's just not for me. Really, either way you pay for sex. Whether it's payment of money, time, emotions, etc. I guess the real reason I don't like prostitution is there's no work involved. You walk up, pay the cost of admission and do the deed. I like to earn things. For me the most fun is in the chase, it's kind of like hunting.

I think the main problem with american marriages isn't a "me mentality" though. I think it's that everyone is brought up believing that love is all you need. Real relationships aren't easy, they take work, and alot of it. People just get this idea that if it was meant to be it should be effortless. The minute things go wrong it's easier to give-up than buckle down and work through it. Laziness is part of it too. It seems that people don't believe in working for things anymore

 

[Poonani Maker]

But what if you just want to get your chops up carving the pumpkin or whatever? Prostitution is the quickest way to add experience making a woman ***.

 

[speakeasy]

But what if you just want to get your chops up carving the pumpkin or whatever? Prostitution is the quickest way to add experience making a woman ***.

Do you really thing prostitutes actually c u m? Women c u m only when they are with guys they really want to be with. A prostitute could care less about you. You are just a necessary evil to her making a living. If she's a good prostitute, she might be able to fake it and act like she's enjoying your company. But most will just want you to hurry and and bust your nut and then be on your way asap.

If you're that curious though, why don't you get yourself one. I don't think a guy hitting one prositute will hurt. At least you'll be able to decide what to do as someone who as tried it. Personally I tried it(barely tried) it and didn't like it at all and it's not something I'd ever consider again. Well, maybe unless she looked like a model, seemed cool to hang with and the price was right, then maybe I'd reconsider.

 

[It's-Me]

she should pay ME for sex

LMAO, what makes you so special?

 

[f283000]

We are men after all and going without having a woman for too long is too much, specially for some who are too ugly, too nice, too afc to get their own girlfriend.

Sure it is immoral to me but i can understand why countless men do it, they have no other choice. Men are human and imperfect and sex is something that we crave due to our nature. Countless of men out there just can't get a woman on their own and the only way they can get sex is by paying some *****.

 

[In Motion]

ROFL. Why would she pay u when she could get sex from millions of other guys willing to do it for free.

Because I am the price, she wants me, she needs me, she would do anything to be with me. It is clear that you yet have much to learn little grasshopper. You aren't special, but you can make yourself special, to her. Game her right, and she will get so interested that she is (almost) willing to pay for sex :yes:

 

[KontrollerX]

Sure.

Like Rollo says no matter whether you go to a prostitute, hook up with chicks, have a girlfriend or a wife you will always.

ALWAYS.

Pay for sex.

There's pretty much no escaping it.

And besides prostitution has only been shamed the way it has so that women can have an easier time getting power over us by making us come to sites like this and learn the bullsh!t games to play that they love so that we can use all these techniques and jump through hoops just to get a little action in exchange for giving them their much needed drama fix.

Getting sex from a prostitute is a lot simpler and better bargain for our time and money.

All the sex that we want right away no bullsh!t talking, no needing to lie to appease them that you'll be their boyfriend if they fvck you, no jumping through any time wasting hoops at all, fvck her and chuck her for a reasonable price and maybe even become a repeat customer and get a discount if she does her job well in your opinion.

There should absolutely be no shame here for any man that wants to go knock it out with a professional.

The only shame you should have is if you've allowed the feminist media and our feminist loving culture into brainwashing you to think this is a bad thing or an option that should absolutely be off the table.

Sure use this site to learn how to get sex for free but if you are going through a dry spell and don't want any hassles knocking it out with a prostitute is a good way to go until you get back in the groove and have success getting it for free again.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

The social stigma associated with prostitution is a western cultural issue only. Asians, Europeans and South Americans have no issues with prostitution. In fact, the line in places like Brazil and Colombia is so blurred its not funny. Women there will **** you just because you took her out dancing and bought her dinner.

Funny thing is that the countries where prostitution is not seen as something that will doom you to the pits of hell or have you ostracised from peers, are the same countries where the women have no hang ups with regards to sex and gender roles. IE: They produce more women who are more feminine and relationship worthy then western countries where prostitution is seen as somethign evil and immoral

Best women in the world are Eastern European, Russian and South American according to my tastes. Those countries breed hookers like England breeds football hooligans.

Because I am the price, she wants me, she needs me, she would do anything to be with me. It is clear that you yet have much to learn little grasshopper. You aren't special, but you can make yourself special, to her. Game her right, and she will get so interested that she is (almost) willing to pay for sex

You are 19.

Mods, cant you hide this forum from people under the age of 25 altogether? There must be a setting of some sort

 

[Hooligan Harry]

We are men after all and going without having a woman for too long is too much, specially for some who are too ugly, too nice, too afc to get their own girlfriend.

Sure it is immoral to me but i can understand why countless men do it, they have no other choice. Men are human and imperfect and sex is something that we crave due to our nature. Countless of men out there just can't get a woman on their own and the only way they can get sex is by paying some *****.

You miss the point. Most men who **** hookers are married.

They can get *****, the problem is that every piece of ass you tap is a potential divorce case that costs you a fortune. While I do not doubt that men who battle to get sex will turn to hookers I do think that the majority who do are probably married men or guys that have no problem getting laid.

Pretty much the kinda guys that in many cases have to **** strangers because they could have women competing for them. If you are married or in a serious relationship you dont want that.

Its a lot deeper then that

 

[Jitterbug]

Funny thing is that the countries where prostitution is not seen as something that will doom you to the pits of hell or have you ostracised from peers, are the same countries where the women have no hang ups with regards to sex and gender roles. IE: They produce more women who are more feminine and relationship worthy then western countries where prostitution is seen as somethign evil and immoral

Because they can't rely on using sex as a weapon to control their men.

You miss the point. Most men who **** hookers are married.

I used to do some work for the adult industry here (prostitution & brothels are legal & regulated btw). Some of those women (working for a high end place) told me that most clients are: married men (for the reason you mentioned), travelling business men (who have no time / energy to hook up after work and aren't familiar enough with the city to know the wheres and hows) and celebrities (who don't want any drama & leaked stories). The rest are men who are in a dry spell for whatever reasons.

The prosties at those high end places are hot. Many work there part time while they do a degree at uni.

I haven't used the service yet (can't afford the rate! and I'm not in a dry spell), but I have no hang-up about it if in the future I'm in a dry spell, can afford the rate and am too busy with my career to be bothered with picking up.

 

[bigjohnson]

The social stigma associated with prostitution is a western cultural issue only. Asians, Europeans and South Americans have no issues with prostitution. In fact, the line in places like Brazil and Colombia is so blurred its not funny. Women there will **** you just because you took her out dancing and bought her dinner.

Truth. I took several girls out dancing and whatnot overseas and all 4 of us ended up in my room later that night. I paid most of the drinks and food and cab fare is all. Ages were 19, 22 and 23 and all were pretty hot and a lot of fun.

Later the same thing with one girl at a time. They want to have fun and if they can possibly catch a white boy at the same time it's a bonus. They are absolutely eager to try to please you during the entire date. Girls I took out this way ranged from 18 to 30, all at least an 8.

For instance I don't think I ever had to pour a beer into my own glass. Ever.

Funny thing is that the countries where prostitution is not seen as something that will doom you to the pits of hell or have you ostracised from peers, are the same countries where the women have no hang ups with regards to sex and gender roles. IE: They produce more women who are more feminine and relationship worthy then western countries where prostitution is seen as somethign evil and immoral

Again correct. I would only consider an LTR with one of these women now, western girls are like giant slow horsefaced clueless animals in comparison.

Because they can't rely on using sex as a weapon to control their men.

Precisely - the pussy isn't gold plated after all, they have to work as hard at the relationship as men have always had to.

I haven't used the service yet (can't afford the rate! and I'm not in a dry spell), but I have no hang-up about it if in the future I'm in a dry spell, can afford the rate and am too busy with my career to be bothered with picking up.

Where I was it was $28 a day and I took a few out if I had things scheduled and didn't want to hurt any "real" girls feelings by kicking her to the curb. But even the rentals got a little attached and needed some up front finessing. Women are women no matter what.

 

[speakeasy]

Truth. I took several girls out dancing and whatnot overseas and all 4 of us ended up in my room later that night. I paid most of the drinks and food and cab fare is all. Ages were 19, 22 and 23 and all were pretty hot and a lot of fun.

Later the same thing with one girl at a time. They want to have fun and if they can possibly catch a white boy at the same time it's a bonus. They are absolutely eager to try to please you during the entire date. Girls I took out this way ranged from 18 to 30, all at least an 8.

For instance I don't think I ever had to pour a beer into my own glass. Ever.

I bolded a key point. I think many of those chics might just want a white guy because they dream of having light skinned kids with blue eyes. I've known of Latin women that moved to the U.S. just for that reason because they wanted white husbands. It's interesting how race plays into the whole thing of gaming girls in certain country. I've seen it in in places like Thailand. A white dude that is a 3 in America will be treated like he's an 8 in Thailand just because his race buys him bonus points. So seeing some fat, balding white with mismatched socks walking around with some hot Thai girlfriend in her 20s isn't uncommon. I take it it's a similiar dynamic in Latin America.

As a black dude, I thing Columbian women are bangin' from all the ones I've met, but don't know how well I'd do down there, because I'd probably have points subtracted just by being black. Latin societies tend to be really rigid in what they prefer, whites are on top and blacks and Indians on the bottom. Kinda similiar to the way Asian guys get the short end of the stick in the U.S. I'd like to give Columbia a look someday, but don't want to waste my time and money either.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Speakeasy, other then Argentina, most of the South American countries do not have the racial prejudices that most first world countries do. You have your exceptions sure but race relations would be something South America is way ahead of the pack in. Especially the younger generation. I think its more a case of finding a stable guy that treats her well.

Go to Eastern Europe or Russia on the other hand and you will probably pick up problems. Other then the Chinese I have never come across people more xenophobic and racist.

Saying that, Ill be the first to admit that women in the poorer countries like foreign men because of their status. Does not change the fact though that their entire attitude towards sex and men is very different. Just seems so NORMAL.

 

[bigjohnson]

I bolded a key point. I think many of those chics might just want a white guy because they dream of having light skinned kids with blue eyes.

Could be, I'm a white guy with dark almost black hair and greenish eyes. They seemed fascinated with my nose, jawline, eyes and blue passport, possibly in that order. Light skin is highly desired in that part of the world, so maybe you would be getting less love. Even the bargirls would offer to sneak out and see me for free, and while I do take care of myself I'm no 20 year old greek god anymore.

Sorry but I just want to be honest.