"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Proper way to leave a voicemail?

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muscleman said:
Of course you'd only text her once, just like you'd call only once.

Text ain't no good? What rock you been sleepin under!??

I do 95% of my communicating via text. Get with it, it's almost 2008. Text is superior to a phone convo in every possible way - you don't have to think quick, you have time to compose something short, sweet, and to the point, and your chance of fvcking up is almost nil. The only time I ever call a girl is a) to set up plans that involve lots of information cause it would take too long via text or b) if there's an urgent reason to do so and I can't wait for her to reply to a text (rarely happens).

And like Francisco said, if you're gonna call and leave a voicemail, there has to be a reason for her to call you back. Voicemails are BS. They put the ball in the girl's court EVERY TIME. Unless she has really high IL in you, it's pointless. I don't remember the last time I left a girl I was interested in a voicemail.
Texting ain't my style...never get's replied back to for me so f**k that.

That second paragraph you wrote is THE TRUTH!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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tsmith2334 said:
You might have sold me on texts messages. I think I might go the text route in this case. She seems pretty responsive to them, moreso then when people call atleast.

Personally, I don't like using texts because I feel they aren't very personal and I think they show you lack the confidence to pick up the phone and call to make plans. Does anyone else feel this way?
I do. Text messaging? I smell shrinking balls!

Call and when the VM comes up, be mysterious i.e. don't leave sh*t!
 

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nismo-4 said:
Texting ain't my style...never get's replied back to for me so f**k that.
i think a lot of people who are opposed to texting have just had bad experiences with it...

it's another aspect of game to me

because if done properly - texting can be just as or more powerful than a phone conversation imo... i've pretty much abandoned phone conversations and email... i do face to face and texting... and my balls are as big as ever
 

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nismo-4 said:
I do. Text messaging? I smell shrinking balls!

Call and when the VM comes up, be mysterious i.e. don't leave sh*t!


There are many ways to convey mystery, I think not leaving a VM is not the best way.

if done correctly, leaving a VM can convey playfulness, ****iness, humor, you name it.

incorrectly however, VM can convey neediness, nervousness, list goes on.



Again, text message is NOT a way to set up dates, not even a way you should(take with a grain of salt) be conversing.

text messaging to me is PURELY for flirting purposes, or sometimes i'll text my close friends at work to see what they are up to since they can't pick up their phones at work.
 

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Texting is just what a sizable percentage of girls prefer. They must think people are gonna come through the phone and kill them if they answer/make a phone call.

Usually, I begin the text game as soon as its begun with me, but I ALWAYS call to make the plans etc. unless its spur of the moment and its one of those "join me" kind of times.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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tsmith2334 said:
Anyway, I want a leave voicemail, I'm just not exactly sure what to say. I know to be brief and to the point, I'm just not sure how brief.

Should I say, "hey [her name].. it's tim, call me back" and leave a little mystery. Or should I reveal my intentions and say "hey [her name].. it's tim, i was wondering if you wanted to get dinner tonight, let me know"...

Or are voicemails a big no no all together? Thanks for the advice.
Man that is ****ing priceless. Start by leaving a message after the beep.
 

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Kev07 said:
There are many ways to convey mystery, I think not leaving a VM is not the best way.

if done correctly, leaving a VM can convey playfulness, ****iness, humor, you name it.

incorrectly however, VM can convey neediness, nervousness, list goes on.
That's why I don't do it unless I have a sure-fire line!
 

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nismo-4 said:
That's why I don't do it unless I have a sure-fire line!
I've heard people talk about "sure fire" lines. I think they're a myth like the Loch Ness Monster. If they do exist they're probably cold, wet and clammy and best left down below in the murky depths out of sight.
 

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voicemail

When leaving a Voicemail i like to keep it short and sweet, and leave the intentions behind, that way when she calls back, or if she calls back, she is curious to hear what you say.

like "Hi _____ it's Jordan, Call me back when you get this bye." But also don't sound pissed off or stressed at all, try to be relaxed, and kind of happy when you say it so she receives a happy mood before calling you.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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