Proof that looks is all that matters (mugshot)

[Trump]

The problem is the comments from the women are from the keyboard. Just a few percent of women who wants to stir things up and cause issues by saying a convicted felon looks like a model. Sure he may look ok, would the same women want to bring him home to introduce to her family and friends?

I think the bad boy thing is taken too far. Perhaps girls do like guys who play by their own rules, but not to the extent of breaking common laws and having a criminal record. They are kidding themselves. They just like to shame, annoy, frustrate, and cause issues. Media eats it up and puts it on back to us.

To say "looks matter" is one part of the equation. Some things may be important (height, hair, teeth, dress), but once if you have the basics, everything else is overall presentation. To scapegoat one item because you think you lack it is the easy, lazy, and childish way out.

 

[backbreaker]

From my persilonal experience women would without question take him home to the family

Social pressure does not apply if you are a serious catch. If a dude is hit enough a girl will.tell.her parents to tuck off with the quickness

 

[Jaylan]

Jaylan you might be gay, not that there is anything wrong with that. Stop your women hating and your man caping

says the fairy whos so obsessed over opinions on another man's looks.

id like to point out that if that guy were to walk up to a group of girls stuttering, he would get no play from them. good looks hardly make a difference.. you may get the occasional slutty drunk chick that decides she wants OPEN YOU to sleep with you and i mean OCASIONAL.. and maybe more opportunities to approach because of eye contact but thats it

Dunno bro. When I was in the best shape of my life, it made a huge impact on the amount of attention I got from women. Same thing with my hair...once I grew it out, more attention from women. And not bar sluts either.

The problem is the comments from the women are from the keyboard. Just a few percent of women who wants to stir things up and cause issues by saying a convicted felon looks like a model. Sure he may look ok, would the same women want to bring him home to introduce to her family and friends?

I think the bad boy thing is taken too far. Perhaps girls do like guys who play by their own rules, but not to the extent of breaking common laws and having a criminal record. They are kidding themselves. They just like to shame, annoy, frustrate, and cause issues. Media eats it up and puts it on back to us.

To say "looks matter" is one part of the equation. Some things may be important (height, hair, teeth, dress), but once if you have the basics, everything else is overall presentation. To scapegoat one item because you think you lack it is the easy, lazy, and childish way out.

I agree with this. Judging a picture is one thing. Deciding to date that person is another.

I can objective say a porn star is attractive. I can say that certain attractive females who are in mugshots are attraction. Would I ever date such a woman? Hell no...wouldnt touch those low quality broads.

I dunno if certain guys here havent noticed...but it isnt high quality women dating dudes who end up in mugshot photos.

 

[goldengoose]

That's true too. You do have to put the best pics that you can convincingly back up in person since women can afford to be so picky about guys' looks. How do you know ou are good enough in person as your pics is if you're get about 25% to 50% success rate on meet ups.

OKCupid did a study and their findings were rather than women rating men on an expected bell curve like men rate the women, women rated 80% of men unattractive, 20% attractive and I think about 5% or so as hot.

If a guy is getting dates online and the chicks are getting turned off when they meet up, that should tell the guy that something is up. Guys do it too, they post old pics, try to cover a gut, hide their bad teeth, thinning hair, lie about their height, age, photoshop their pics. That's just a waste of time because you aren't going to get laid after you went through the trouble of getting the date.

Okcupid has the worst looking people period.

The problem is the comments from the women are from the keyboard. Just a few percent of women who wants to stir things up and cause issues by saying a convicted felon looks like a model. Sure he may look ok, would the same women want to bring him home to introduce to her family and friends?

I think the bad boy thing is taken too far. Perhaps girls do like guys who play by their own rules, but not to the extent of breaking common laws and having a criminal record. They are kidding themselves. They just like to shame, annoy, frustrate, and cause issues. Media eats it up and puts it on back to us.

Are you serious?

Women are banging those guys on the side that their family, friends, or current boyfriend doesn't know about. Also, women wouldn't have a problem bringing him home if they wanted to. They don't care what the family thinks about him. They even make fun of it on TV when the dad gets mad at the dude his daughter brings home. I know people who don't approve who the daughter is dating.

I know dudes in my town who are thugs and have criminal records, the women don't care. I was reading a thread where this one guy was talking about his gf who dumped him and went back to the ex who had a record because he was a typical nice guy and was too boring for her. She said the ex was exciting even though he treated her bad. The ugly women who don't have many options use the "everything else" like the other posters talked about.

Would you bang a 9 who got busted for shoplifiting a couple of times and has a record?

It depends on the extent of the crime. But I wouldn't being her around anyone I knew.

Exactly, you just proved the point that I made above. You wouldn't bring that woman around anybody you knew. Neither would the women who are banging those guys on the side without the knowledge of family, friends, or the current boyfriend. They don't want a real relationship with the guy just a fvck or two at best.

 

[Trump]

Women are banging those guys on the side that their family, friends, or current boyfriend doesn't know about. Also, women wouldn't have a problem bringing him home if they wanted to. They don't care what the family thinks about him. They even make fun of it on TV when the dad gets mad at the dude his daughter brings home. I know people who don't approve who the daughter is dating.

Fair enough. If some woman want to show off a criminal boyfriend to their friends and bring him over for dinner, that's their prerogative.

I know dudes in my town who are thugs and have criminal records, the women don't care. I was reading a thread where this one guy was talking about his gf who dumped him and went back to the ex who had a record because he was a typical nice guy and was too boring for her. She said the ex was exciting even though he treated her bad. The ugly women who don't have many options use the "everything else" like the other posters talked about.

Again fair enough. Not here judge people, but I think you can be a "bad boy" without breaking common laws or going to jail. To be exciting is one thing, to tell your children you got weak knees because their dad was a convict wanted in 3 states for arson, murder, and rape is another.

But I see the point. Women just care about emotion and how they feel, and criminals are in a way sexy. A ripped guy with tattoos protects her better than a small PhD guy with glasses.

Would you bang a 9 who got busted for shoplifiting a couple of times and has a record?

It depends on the extent of the crime. But I wouldn't being her around anyone I knew.

 

[In2theGame]

If a guy is getting dates online and the chicks are getting turned off when they meet up, that should tell the guy that something is up. Guys do it too, they post old pics, try to cover a gut, hide their bad teeth, thinning hair, lie about their height, age, photoshop their pics. That's just a waste of time because you aren't going to get laid after you went through the trouble of getting the date.

Agree with this here. Meeting someone online can be tricky because of the way a picture can come out. IMO, If your a good looking guy, dont waste your time online... Just go out there and go up to a girl you find attractive and introduce yourself. Your looks will take care of most of the interaction. Some guys believe "Yea but he still needs game and to talk her up" Thats true to a certain extent but for a very good looking guy all he has to say is "Hey I'm _____ I thought you were very beautiful and i wanted to talk to you...." The girl will be flattered big time that he's talking to her and wants her phone number.

I remember a long time ago when Myspace was in, one girl that looked pretty cute messaged me, I was talking to so many girls that i was just having fun with it. She said that she worked close by my area so i decided hey what the hell.... She looks alright in the pic, i agreed to meet. I goofed up by not thinking about the obvious one face picture lol. I go to meet her and fvck..... Walking towards me is this life sized gummy bear chick... i was like WTF!!? she looks nothing like her picture.... I decided to hang out with her for like 30 min before i would bail out since she was on her lunch break. She dragged me to come with her by her job where she was acting like i was her boyfriend and i was thinking this sh*t is crazy lol So many girls were looking at us like...."How is he with her?" i kind of felt embarrassed. She grabbed me and kissed me before i left... I was like damn thats the last time i do something like that. Soon after i met my ex LTR so i was done meeting girls.

Im single now and i dont bother with online although i have thought about it but i know i dont need to go that route because i can easily go out and meet women in person. All it usually takes for me is to introduce myself and tell them i think they are sexy/beautiful/hot... i get the number and set up dates or if im really working it... get the lay that same night. Plus i like going up and approaching.

 

[Sino Zane]

Looks are not ALL that matter, but they are VERY, VERY important to higher-quality women. Keep in mind that there are great girls who are ugly, and you can always go for this option. But in reality, if you want a great girl who is also attractive, then you will have to become a great guy who is attractive as well.

 

[asa_don]

Looks are not ALL that matter, but they are VERY, VERY important to higher-quality women. Keep in mind that there are great girls who are ugly, and you can always go for this option. But in reality, if you want a great girl who is also attractive, then you will have to become a great guy who is attractive as well.

when women in a bar see a guy who is a 4 and another who is an 8, who do you think the women are going to want to go home with? the 4? every woman wants a good looking man, even women who are 4's want one.

you are wrong, men who are ugly only have the option of an ugly girl if they don't have any money or status. good looking men won't use the ugly girl as an option, they wouldn't give her the time of day, just like the hot girl wouldn't give an ugly man.

The guy looks like a typical mixed black dude with colored eyes and you MEN are freaking caping for him. Top 1 percent? Are you serious? lol....You can't believe much of what you read on the internet......I mean you got guys on here supposedly pulling a HB9 and when they show their picture she is a 5. What women do you capers put in the top 1 percent? lol. I use to have girls follow me home and in the mall when I was younger and in better shape. Even had girls somehow find out my cell phone number and call me am I in the one percent?lololol

why are you so obsessed over this? he made world news about women wanting to sleep with him over his mug shot. it will happen again if women see a pic of a guy they like, its no big deal. thats why they have online dating lol.

From my persilonal experience women would without question take him home to the family

Social pressure does not apply if you are a serious catch. If a dude is hit enough a girl will.tell.her parents to tuck off with the quickness

did you have a few cold ones when you wrote this up? lol

 

[zekko]

good looks hardly make a difference.. you may get the occasional slutty drunk chick that decides she wants OPEN YOU to sleep with you and i mean OCASIONAL.. and maybe more opportunities to approach because of eye contact but thats it

There's a difference between being good looking and being exceptionally good looking, like this guy apparently is. A girl will see a good looking guy and think "I'd like to date him". But she'll see a guy like this and her jaw will hit the floor and she will be all "OMG he is FIIIIIIIIIIIIINNE". Big difference, and I've said repeatedly, very rare.

This reminds me of my criteria for rating HB9s (females). I don't believe in 10s because no one is perfect. To me, HB8s and HB9s are pretty much the same. But to qualify for a 9, she has to be able to turn nearly every guy's head in the room, almost every guy will want her. That takes the objectivity out of it. Sort of like how you can tell this guy is especially good looking by the reaction he gets from the girls - they're going straight up bonkers over him.

 

[Stagger Lee]

There's a difference between being good looking and being exceptionally good looking, like this guy apparently is. A girl will see a good looking guy and think "I'd like to date him". But she'll see a guy like this and her jaw will hit the floor and she will be all "OMG he is FIIIIIIIIIIIIINNE". Big difference, and I've said repeatedly, very rare.

While I generally think women either see men as attractive or not, I can agree that women see men as 2 tiers of good looking. They will see a guy as good looking enough to date and then there's the one's they see as "hot". But the point stands that women are very focused on appearance. I'd estimate that about only 20-40% of men can even reach the threshold of being considered good looking by women. As a guy with women you're either hot and have it about as easy as a guy is going to have it or you're attractive and can make due or you're basically unattractive underclass and in an untenable dating position. With the latter only being extremely wealthy or some how famous can make a difference.

This reminds me of my criteria for rating HB9s (females). I don't believe in 10s because no one is perfect. To me, HB8s and HB9s are pretty much the same. But to qualify for a 9, she has to be able to turn nearly every guy's head in the room, almost every guy will want her. That takes the objectivity out of it. Sort of like how you can tell this guy is especially good looking by the reaction he gets from the girls - they're going straight up bonkers over him.

That's how I see it too mostly. I don't believe in 10's really. Although I tend to give a 9 to a girl who I think is the most attractive regardless of what other guys think. But about any girl I give an 8 or 9 is definitely a head turner and desired by most men. And I do believe attractiveness male or female is pretty universal.

When I see a guy who I think is a really good looking guy he usually has a fine looking girl dolting all over him. Then I see guys that don't look anything special hitting it off with HB7's or HB8s, and rather than concluded it's "game" or "personality" I concluded those guys must be good looking to women. I believe women are seeing things in men's appearance that I and other guys don't really notice or think is important. I think women really focus on a man's face and symmetry.

 

[VladPatton]

Of course they're gonna be attracted to some ex-con! Who else will provide 110% of the recommended daily allowance of drama? A clean-cut office guy with his shıt together? Hell no! The ex con will. Pump, dump, sweet talk, abuse, leave, return, make up sex, cheat, steal money, rinse and repeat. It's an all-containing package, son!

 

[zekko]

But about any girl I give an 8 or 9 is definitely a head turner and desired by most men. And I do believe attractiveness male or female is pretty universal.

Post a pic up here of a girl you think is a 9, and you will have guys scoffing "She is a 5 at best". So there is some variation. But I think when it comes to real life, this discrepency tends to disappear some. There is still variation according to taste. But if you see a girl you think is good looking in the real world, chances are there are several other guys wanting to bang her too. Post a picture on the internet and everybody becomes much more critical, for some reason.

Who else will provide 110% of the recommended daily allowance of drama? A clean-cut office guy with his shıt together? Hell no! The ex con will. Pump, dump, sweet talk, abuse, leave, return, make up sex, cheat, steal money, rinse and repeat. It's an all-containing package, son!

Bail him out of jail, he gets drunk, wrecks your car, gets you pregnant, leaves you to raise the child while he does time, he gets out of prison, bangs some other chick, etc. etc. lol. The fun never stops. I've always said girls who like guys like this deserve what they get.

 

[goldengoose]

I dunno if certain guys here havent noticed...but it isnt high quality women dating dudes who end up in mugshot photos.

You would be quite surprised Jaylan.

A lot of women think they can reform these guys and change them into the man they want them to be. That's why they are a challenge, that's why they are attracted to them, they are different and it turns them on. They never can change them and they end up leaving them after.

Some guys hide their sh1t from their women and they don't know what the guys are really doing behind the scenes.

A lot of hot chicks aren't really "quality women", their faces and bodies are Grade A, but their attitudes suck, they party all the time, sleep around, do drugs, cheat, use men, do whatever they can to get what they want. They look quality from your eyes, but they are not an over all quality person.

When you think of it, there are less and less "quality" women around regardless of what they look like these days.

Agree with this here. Meeting someone online can be tricky because of the way a picture can come out. IMO, If your a good looking guy, dont waste your time online... Just go out there and go up to a girl you find attractive and introduce yourself. Your looks will take care of most of the interaction. Some guys believe "Yea but he still needs game and to talk her up" Thats true to a certain extent but for a very good looking guy all he has to say is "Hey I'm _____ I thought you were very beautiful and i wanted to talk to you...." The girl will be flattered big time that he's talking to her and wants her phone number.

I remember a long time ago when Myspace was in, one girl that looked pretty cute messaged me, I was talking to so many girls that i was just having fun with it. She said that she worked close by my area so i decided hey what the hell.... She looks alright in the pic, i agreed to meet. I goofed up by not thinking about the obvious one face picture lol. I go to meet her and fvck..... Walking towards me is this life sized gummy bear chick... i was like WTF!!? she looks nothing like her picture.... I decided to hang out with her for like 30 min before i would bail out since she was on her lunch break. She dragged me to come with her by her job where she was acting like i was her boyfriend and i was thinking this sh*t is crazy lol So many girls were looking at us like...."How is he with her?" i kind of felt embarrassed. She grabbed me and kissed me before i left... I was like damn thats the last time i do something like that. Soon after i met my ex LTR so i was done meeting girls.

It's funny that you mention Myspace because there are chicks on POF right now using Myspace pics from 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago.

HAHA a life sized Gummy Bear chick. Those chicks will fool you from their pictures they put up on there. When you see a fat chick walking towards you with fat short little arms and legs looking like a troll, you have a WTF moment right there LOL.

Always pay close attention to the photos the chicks post. When you see angle pics, only head and close face shots, extreme body close ups, pics cut off at the clevage, you most likely have a fat chick trying to hide her fat body from being in the shot. The others use old pics when they were fit so you have no idea until you meet them. If the chicks are being sneaky that is one thing, but to use old pics from years back is another and is blatant lying.

 

[Jaylan]

^I dont equate quality with merely looks though...so like I originally said...the women chasing guys in that mugshot are rarely quality. Let the "bad boys" take those drama filled hot chicks. I dont want em. There are attractive quality women out there for me to go after.

 

[sambwoy]

And unattractive guys don't want to admit that is where their failure is and is largely out of their control.

However, I would hasten to add that the logic of some girls on the looks issue is ridiculous...my god, the things I have heard being said.... and this is from experience as a young man.
(classics like 'why are all those road workers over there all old and ugly?')
How'd they like it if went around expecting **all** women to look like <insert 'hot' celeb name here>?

Thus it hardly surprises me that living with things outside your control sucks major balls particularly if you are a guy. Our society is full of people entrapped by the system who either hate, envy or fear free spirits.

 

[goldengoose]

so like I originally said...the women chasing guys in that mugshot are rarely quality.

That is not always true, I've known nice girls who fell for men like that. The guys told the girls what they wanted to hear, melted their hearts, the girls fell in love, and the girls tried to fix them. Did you hear about all those women posting comments? Not all of them are bad quality women. But, a lot of women who do seek those types of guys are bad quality, but many of them are not because they want to see what it would be like to be with a guy who "breaks the rules".

Look at Elvis when he did "Jailhouse Rock" and James Dean, women went crazy over them because they were different, they were outlaws who didn't care and broke all the rules.

 

[VikingKing]

That is not always true, I've known nice girls who fell for men like that. The guys told the girls what they wanted to hear, melted their hearts, the girls fell in love, and the girls tried to fix them. Did you hear about all those women posting comments? Not all of them are bad quality women. But, a lot of women who do seek those types of guys are bad quality, but many of them are not because they want to see what it would be like to be with a guy who "breaks the rules".

Look at Elvis when he did "Jailhouse Rock" and James Dean, women went crazy over them because they were different, they were outlaws who didn't care and broke all the rules.

Sounds like my ex.

But really, looks don't matter as much as you think. To some women, to different degrees.

Thread closed.

 

[3agle 3yes]

I didn't want to post on this thread, but it won't go away, so...

I don't see what all the fuss is about, some of the women are simply judging a photo.

If a photo is all someone can judge you by, then that's what they'll do.

What OP needs to realise is that we aren't pictures, we are real life, actual people.

So, a women's judgement is based on EVERYTHING...looks are only significant if you are on the extreme.

 

[lover4721]

I was just browsing around on FB and I saw this. How weird to see the same picture within the same minute, on different websites!

 

[Stagger Lee]

I don't see what all the fuss is about, some of the women are simply judging a photo.

If a photo is all someone can judge you by, then that's what they'll do.

What OP needs to realise is that we aren't pictures, we are real life, actual people.

But the point still remains that women are going bonkers over what they see. If a guy looks as good in person they're still going to go bonkers for him.

So, a women's judgement is based on EVERYTHING...looks are only significant if you are on the extreme.

Women are not judging a guy on everything. That's what every self righteous female wants everyone to believe. More like women want and think they deserve everything even if the woman herself is nothing and ass ugly.

But what they most are attracted to is looks and appearance. A guy being about the best looking she can get is primacy and everything else is just to make up for him not being at the extreme end of good looking. Plenty of guys have everything but for thinning hair or maybe lacking height and boom they are out for a guy that isn't lacking in those areas even if he's lacking in others.