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Proof that humanity is de-evolving

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In 1930 (a freer and more enlightened era than our own) , H. L. Mencken said the following:

Primitive society, like many savage societies of out own time, was probably strictly matriarchal. The mother was the head of the family. ...What masculine authority there was resided in the mother's brother. He was the man of the family, and to him the children yielded respect and obedience. Their father, at best, was simply a pleasant friend who fed them and played with them; at worst, he was an indecent loafer who sponged on the mother. They belonged, not to his family, but to their mother's. As they grew up they joined their uncle's group of hunters, not their father's.
Feminists will tell you that "female liberation" is a sign of progress, but it's actually the opposite. The prevalence of single moms and kids growing up without father figures is a sign of a society in decline that is moving towards the dark ages. A man that grows up without a father is incapable of reaching his full intellectual potential. The symptoms of modern day degeneracy (i.e. pop culture, obsession with celebrities and spectator sports, popularity of primitive tribalistic musical styles, such as hip hop, embracement of homosexuality, curtailing of personal freedoms and rampant anti-intellectualism) are all directly related to the breakdown of the traditional family/social structure.

Humanity appears to have reached its evolutionary peak around WWII. It's been downhill from there. Think of the most contemporary man who is universally considered a genius. Chances are, you are thinking of Albert Einstein (who died in 1955). There haven't been any great thinkers (either scientists or philosophers) in the past 70 years who were of the same caliber as men like Einstein, Newton, Rousseau, Locke, John Stuart Mill, George Washington, Galileo, Aristotle, Plato, etc.

Since women are incapable of intellectual greatness, only patriarchal societies, where men have the opportunity to reach their full potential, are capable of consistent progress. Societies that remained matriarchal (i.e. most of Africa) have fallen behind intellectually (and therefore technologically) and were eventually colonized and enslaved by the more advanced patriarchal Europeans.
 
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Bokanovsky said:
Humanity appears to have reached its evolutionary peak around WWII. It's been downhill from there. Think of the most contemporary man who is universally considered a genius. Chances are, you are thinking of Albert Einstein (who died in 1955). There haven't been any great thinkers (either scientists or philosophers) in the past 70 years who were of the same caliber as men like Einstein, Newton, Rousseau, Locke, John Stuart Mill, George Washington, Galileo, Aristotle, Plato, etc.

Look at where technology and medicine are now compared to the 1940s. Einstein was a genius, sure, but we've come a long way since his death. I won't say that we aren't declining morally - because we most certainly are - but to say that we're "de-evolving" is reaching.
 

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The problem is that we cannot talk about humanity as a whole, we still have people that are improving and people that can lead us even further than what we are already.

The problem is that this same people is slowed down and hindered from the overwhelming amount of useless helpless people that our "superior morality" expect us to take care of, no matter what they do.

So you have guys with high IQ which dont have enough money for researches cause their salaries and tools are heavily taxed in order to provide benefits to the scum of their nations.

To that add that the lack of natural predators and the progress in medicine as much as a overmighty welfare virtually eliminated natural selection as we knew it, in Europe you can be an alchoolic/drugaddict/criminal and the good people will still be forced to pay for the sh1t you do.

An other point is that it was men to lead to progress in this world, especially what we call "nerds"...Tesla,Leonardo,Archimedes were not cool studs taking pictures at the club, they were just very clever men which needed to be left in condition to work...nowadays nerds are bullied from other people, ridiculed and friendzoned from women and punished from the government through taxation.

Who can reach his potential given such circumstances?
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
Look at where technology and medicine are now compared to the 1940s.
That's what I mean by "inertia" progress; existing technologies improve through continuing refinement but there are no new, revolutionary technologies. Most of the recent technological progress has been in the filed of computers and electronics in general. Electronics have been around since the 19th century and the computer was invented by a German named Konrad Zuse in 1941. To me, this is a sign of intellectual decline. Guys like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs may be smart, but they are by no means geniuses like Einstein. They did not invent or discover anything new or ground-breaking. They simply took existing technologies and made them better.

Real progress comes with revolutionary, not evolutionary, inventions. Think of the wheel, fire, metal tools/weapons, the sailboat, gunpowder... all of these things were undoubtedly invented by men who were geniuses rather than merely very intelligent. Only a genius can approach a problem from a completely outside-the-box perspective.
 

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There is no such thing as de-evolution. Evolution is not directional, it is the changing of alleles in a population over generations. And humans are evolving.... the gene for whether a person will have a "widow's peak" is not in Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.
 

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You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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TyTe`EyEz said:
Look at where technology and medicine are now compared to the 1940s. Einstein was a genius, sure, but we've come a long way since his death. I won't say that we aren't declining morally - because we most certainly are - but to say that we're "de-evolving" is reaching.
Threads like this are interesting sure. But Tyte Eyez is 100% correct. To say we're dumbed than days when computers were the size of houses, is pretty silly haha. The fact that many 50 year old people can't use a simple iPhone, while a 5 year old can, says that our IQ is rising.
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
Look at where technology and medicine are now compared to the 1940s. Einstein was a genius, sure, but we've come a long way since his death. I won't say that we aren't declining morally - because we most certainly are - but to say that we're "de-evolving" is reaching.
Threads like this are interesting sure. But Tyte Eyez is 100% correct. To say we're dumbed than days when computers were the size of houses, is pretty silly haha. The fact that many 50 year old people can't use a simple iPhone, while a 5 year old can, says that our IQ is rising.

There is no such thing as de-evolution. Evolution is not directional, it is the changing of alleles in a population over generations. And humans are evolving.... the gene for whether a person will have a "widow's peak" is not in Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.
Badass post! So true.
Bokanovsky said:
That's what I mean by "inertia" progress; existing technologies improve through continuing refinement but there are no new, revolutionary technologies. Most of the recent technological progress has been in the filed of computers and electronics in general. Electronics have been around since the 19th century and the computer was invented by a German named Konrad Zuse in 1941. To me, this is a sign of intellectual decline. Guys like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs may be smart, but they are by no means geniuses like Einstein. They did not invent or discover anything new or ground-breaking. They simply took existing technologies and made them better.
You sound pretty dumb. Sorry. All great entrepreneurs of the world have taken existing things and improved them.

Maybe you're searching for a modern day Newton to re-invent calculus, to which I say stop limiting your mind and look at the amazing things we've accomplished today. To say that the iPhone and smartphones haven't revolutionized the world, is straight up retarded.

To say that us coming out with more advanced computers being a sign of intellectual decline is retarded lol. You wouldn't even be here sharing your dumbass idea if people hadn't created the internet.

I argue the opposite, that computers and our Information Age is the most liberating thing ever. It's letting anyone in the world do amazing things.

Unfortunately in some cases dumb, small minded people like the OP can use the Internet to share lame ideas

It's the really intelligent people of the world who don't waste time thinking of "the good old days" and have the power to think forward

Real progress comes with revolutionary, not evolutionary, inventions. Think of the wheel, fire, metal tools/weapons, the sailboat, gunpowder... all of these things were undoubtedly invented by men who were geniuses rather than merely very intelligent. Only a genius can approach a problem from a completely outside-the-box perspective.
Man I don't know if this forum is filled with old geezers or just bitter paranoid guys who cant get girls but some of these threads are super lame. This forum seemed so awesome back around 2000 and now it's filled with the same garbage haha

Why isn't the Anything Else forum filled with inspiring threads and articles? It's always filled with the same conspiracy nonsense, and posts from bitter guys who keep obsessing about the past

just my thoughts
 

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TyTe`EyEz said:
Look at where technology and medicine are now compared to the 1940s. Einstein was a genius, sure, but we've come a long way since his death. I won't say that we aren't declining morally - because we most certainly are - but to say that we're "de-evolving" is reaching.
Threads like this are interesting sure. But Tyte Eyez is 100% correct. To say we're dumbed than days when computers were the size of houses, is pretty silly haha. The fact that many 50 year old people can't use a simple iPhone, while a 5 year old can, says that our IQ is rising.

There is no such thing as de-evolution. Evolution is not directional, it is the changing of alleles in a population over generations. And humans are evolving.... the gene for whether a person will have a "widow's peak" is not in Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium.
Badass post! So true.
Bokanovsky said:
That's what I mean by "inertia" progress; existing technologies improve through continuing refinement but there are no new, revolutionary technologies. Most of the recent technological progress has been in the filed of computers and electronics in general. Electronics have been around since the 19th century and the computer was invented by a German named Konrad Zuse in 1941. To me, this is a sign of intellectual decline. Guys like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs may be smart, but they are by no means geniuses like Einstein. They did not invent or discover anything new or ground-breaking. They simply took existing technologies and made them better.
You sound pretty dumb. Sorry. All great entrepreneurs of the world have taken existing things and improved them.

Maybe you're searching for a modern day Newton to re-invent calculus, to which I say stop limiting your mind and look at the amazing things we've accomplished today. To say that the iPhone and smartphones haven't revolutionized the world, is straight up retarded.

To say that us coming out with more advanced computers being a sign of intellectual decline is retarded lol. You wouldn't even be here sharing your dumbass idea if people hadn't created the internet.

I argue the opposite, that computers and our Information Age is the most liberating thing ever. It's letting anyone in the world do amazing things.

Unfortunately in some cases dumb, small minded people like the OP can use the Internet to share lame ideas

It's the really intelligent people of the world who don't waste time thinking of "the good old days" and have the power to think forward

Real progress comes with revolutionary, not evolutionary, inventions. Think of the wheel, fire, metal tools/weapons, the sailboat, gunpowder... all of these things were undoubtedly invented by men who were geniuses rather than merely very intelligent. Only a genius can approach a problem from a completely outside-the-box perspective.
Man I don't know if this forum is filled with old geezers or just bitter paranoid guys who cant get girls but some of these threads are super lame. This forum seemed so awesome back around 2000 and now it's filled with the same garbage haha

Why isn't the Anything Else forum filled with inspiring threads and articles? It's always filled with the same conspiracy nonsense, and posts from bitter guys who keep obsessing about the past

just my thoughts
 

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White Boy said:
just my thoughts
"white boy" on cue.

Problem is your thoughts never differ from "tee hee lol we got facebook and youtube now.Everything is going great , nothing to see here move along . More government, more government, more government"

"White boy" my ass. You sound like a woman or something extremely close to it. Your even more obvious a troll than our zarky.
 

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White Boy said:
It's the really intelligent people of the world who don't waste time thinking of "the good old days" and have the power to think forward

This forum seemed so awesome back around 2000...

Why isn't the Anything Else forum filled with inspiring threads and articles? It's always filled with the same conspiracy nonsense, and posts from bitter guys who keep obsessing about the past

just my thoughts
Inspire us.
 

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White Boy said:
To say we're dumbed than days when computers were the size of houses, is pretty silly haha.
You are living proof of the fact that the human population is getting dumber. At 17, you should be capable of comprehending the basic grammatical structure of your [presumably] native language. "haha"
 

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Think of the most contemporary man who is universally considered a genius. Chances are, you are thinking of Albert Einstein (who died in 1955). There haven't been any great thinkers (either scientists or philosophers) in the past 70 years who were of the same caliber as men like Einstein, Newton, Rousseau, Locke, John Stuart Mill, George Washington, Galileo, Aristotle, Plato, etc.
Stephen Hawking. Contemporary, universally regarded as a genius (except by his critics, of course), in the same caliber of prestige as Einstein.
Guys like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs may be smart, but they are by no means geniuses like Einstein. They did not invent or discover anything new or ground-breaking. They simply took existing technologies and made them better.
You mentioned Rousseau, Locke, John Stuart Mill, Aristotle, and Plato, but there is no ‘progress’ in philosophy. Plato and Aristotle explored new territory, by virtue of their timeline in history, but everything has now been done. It was Rene Decartes who said, in 1637, “One cannot conceive anything so strange and so implausible that it has not already been said by one philosopher or another.”
 

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Deep Dish said:
It was Rene Decartes who said, in 1637, “One cannot conceive anything so strange and so implausible that it has not already been said by one philosopher or another.”
Then how do you explain Pook? :D
 

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Danger:

I think Ayn Rand has done a tremendous job with the philosophy of objectivism.

The other key point here I think is not necessarily that there are no great thinkers, but that our society no longer celebrates them. We now celebrate Paris Hilton or Jersey Shore.

Great thinkers are now hated by society, and thus they are invisible at best, ridiculed and marginalized at worst.
One of my favorite existential philosophers is Jean-Paul Sartre. It’s a fun little fact that both were born in 1905 and died two years apart.

I agree, totally.
 

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Lets have this conversation again in 2050 and see if humanity is really de-evolving.
 
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