"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Problems with being seen as "That Guy"?

donjuan87

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All this "be a Don Juan, pick up and sleep with tons of women" stuff is great and all, but does anyone have any problems with being seen as ''that guy''? You know, the guy who's seen around town always hitting on tons of women. Wouldn't this lower your social value? Also, being seen one night really in to a perticular woman, but on the next night hitting on a completely different woman, with the first women nowhere to be seen?

If you are a Master Don Juan, this probably wouldn't be a problem because of your high success rate, but until you get to that point won't this be an issue?

I don't want any answers like "who gives a fvck", but thoughtful replys.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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texmex23

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I just think this site has evolutionized from a place where it was to get yourself be more confident and have no fears and then get the girls as a sideffect of that.

Now this site more focused on doing girls and doing girls and did i mention doing girls.(not ragging on anybody) If thats your focus of course you're gonna be seen as ''that guy''.

Its all in your intentions!
 

wavejams007

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You mean being seen as a player? That depends on how old you are and what values you project about yourself.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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PurplePimp

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i am write bad english but i read work of robert green. he write 48 law power.

quote i pull from google on book:

"Remember, a reputation is something you give yourself. If you don't like it, change it"
 

wavejams007

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Originally posted by PurplePimp
i am write bad english but i read work of robert green. he write 48 law power.

quote i pull from google on book:

"Remember, a reputation is something you give yourself. If you don't like it, change it"
No criticism of you whatsoever, but you sound asian, not russian.
 

BrotherAP

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Originally posted by texmex23
I just think this site has evolutionized from a place where it was to get yourself be more confident and have no fears and then get the girls as a sideffect of that.

Now this site more focused on doing girls and doing girls and did i mention doing girls.(not ragging on anybody) If thats your focus of course you're gonna be seen as ''that guy''.

Its all in your intentions!
Well, the description of this forum is "Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice"

If we're not here to talk about girls, what are we here for?

:confused:
 

wavejams007

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
Well, the description of this forum is "Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice"

If we're not here to talk about girls, what are we here for?

:confused:
Come to thijnk of it, you are right, but the comment would have been better aimed if it was about converting to the DJ lifestyle.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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wheelin&dealin

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Originally posted by donjuan87
All this "be a Don Juan, pick up and sleep with tons of women" stuff is great and all, but does anyone have any problems with being seen as ''that guy''? You know, the guy who's seen around town always hitting on tons of women. Wouldn't this lower your social value? Also, being seen one night really in to a perticular woman, but on the next night hitting on a completely different woman, with the first women nowhere to be seen?

If you are a Master Don Juan, this probably wouldn't be a problem because of your high success rate, but until you get to that point won't this be an issue?
Women and men have tonnes of respect for DJs who ask women out. Even if you get shut down, she will have tremendous respect for you for even attempting to ask her out.

If you're seen dating tonnes of women you get respect as a man. Being seen with many beautiful women can only raise social value.

If you think "Master Don Juans" have a high success rate you are completely wrong. My pick-up game is slick as hell and my success rate for cold approaches is very low. Alot of women have boyfriends. You can ask out 10 women and 8 or 9 might have boyfriends, so you won't get their number. But if you have the balls to ask out 10 women you will probably get a few numbers. The more women you ask out = the more numbers you get. It's a numbers game and you're really rolling the dice on each pick-up. Don't think that there is some sort of "super-human" race of don juans that get all the women. If a woman has a boyfriend you're not gonna pick her up.
 

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that guy

It seems to be a bit of a problem when you live in a small city or if you study in a small college and frequently hitting on the college chicks.

The two things above are my problems. It makes me want to hesitate chicks and be entitled "the biggest flirt". I'm a bit well known in my school. ( For my academic and extra-curricular activities --- not as the biggest flirt btw. )

But since being in this site, I've been reprogramming myself. Stop giving a damn about what people say or might think.

Right now, I only hesitate to approach chicks when my ex is nearby. My ex is hot, a 9, and I don't want to be mocked by her if I was approaching a chick of a lower rating than her.
 

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If you're one of those creepy guys who hits on every girl, then I can see how this would lower social value. But if you pick your spots and keep your standards high there is no problem.
 

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Re: that guy

Originally posted by donjuan87
All this "be a Don Juan, pick up and sleep with tons of women" stuff is great and all, but does anyone have any problems with being seen as ''that guy''? You know, the guy who's seen around town always hitting on tons of women. Wouldn't this lower your social value?
Your goal is not to be seen hitting on many women, your goal is to be seen dating many women. Don't always hit on women in front of everyone, isolate her and then pick her up (Which is called pimping on the low).

Your social value will remain high because you are in demand.


Originally posted by Lhemmix
Right now, I only hesitate to approach chicks when my ex is nearby. My ex is hot, a 9, and I don't want to be mocked by her if I was approaching a chick of a lower rating than her.
mocked by the ex?! did your ex leave you and took your balls with her?? Ignore the ex and do whatever you want to do, don't let her dicate your life.

DjDamage
 

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I would rather be "That guy" than "Who's that guy?"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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