"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Problems Carrying Conversation

Desdinova

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Hey all, as many of you know I'm doing the bootcamp. The biggest problem I'm having is going from the approach to carrying a conversation with a woman. I can approach, make some very small talk, I can kiss close, I can get her into the sack, but I can't keep a conversation going to save my ass.

There's two reasons that are likely linked to this problem I'm having:

1) I was very shy as a child. Hell, I didn't even touch the telephone until I was 12 years old. I would rarely say two words to anybody.

2) I really don't give a 5hit about other people unless I've already built good rapport with them over time.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could go about improving this aspect of my personality?
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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synergy1

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per another thread, what I do is try and continue conversation using nouns. whatever sentence she said, determine which nouns were used and follow up with a statement or question about that noun. below is a cursory example.

So you from around the area?
Yeah, from X city. ( X city is the noun to ask next)
Oh wow, I hear X city is pretty sick place to live. what do you think of the nightlife?
its good, I check out X bar on weekends when I am with friends (Now you have X bar, and friends to play around with)
I bet X bar is a great time, probably more guys than girls.

etc..

That is a horrible made up dialogue but the idea remains. being knowledgeable helps a lot since you can chime in, but asking the right questions to carry on conversation is probably the easiest way i can think of to keep it going. The easiest for me is if they happened to have traveled and I can bring up my similar experiences.

like you, I grew up shy and conversation can be difficult at times. I still have trouble with conversation from time to time, but try and use nouning to help out with that. Have been out of the game for a while and my skills are likely shiat, so any updates and i'll try and pass it on to you.

good luck bro.
 

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Get out more. The more you experience, the more you'll have to talk about, and more you'll have to talk back if you come across a chick with the same interests.
 
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