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Hey all.
I have had a situation with a girl where i have been going out to parties, clubs and went on a lunch date with, after which she would text me that she really enjoyed my company and that we should 'hang out again'.
However, i turned up 2 her work at some point and we talked for a bit. When saying good bye i hugged her, but she seemed a bit supprised (not sure if in a good or bad way). Maybe because i haven't been doing much kino.
Anyway. We arranged to meet up and she canceled because of some issue with a friend (which seems truthful). I then messaged her later that week and she said her week was 2 busy to meet up. However a few hours later she messaged again saying she was free the next week. I canceled to not look too desperate. It has now been a week since the proposed date and we have only talked breifly (through texting) with her ending the conversation abruptly. I havent heard back no for about 5 days.
My question is shall i contact her and arrange a date or wait for her to do so? Its just that at one point i may have came on to quick and maybe despereate and this may have ruined the relationship. Not sure.
Any insights would be appreciated. :)
 

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krk said:
Hey all.
I have had a situation with a girl where i have been going out to parties, clubs and went on a lunch date with, after which she would text me that she really enjoyed my company and that we should 'hang out again'.

Hmm. Unless you've made out with her heavily or slept with her after these clubs and lunch dates, you may be in deep friend zone terrority.

However, i turned up 2 her work at some point and we talked for a bit. When saying good bye i hugged her, but she seemed a bit supprised (not sure if in a good or bad way).

Whoa dude, girls don't like surprises like that. They like going to latin dancing clubs or on trips that you've planned on a moments notice. Not showing up at her work where her boss and other employess may see her talking to you, potentially getting her in trouble or fired.

Maybe because i haven't been doing much kino.
Anyway. We arranged to meet up and she canceled because of some issue with a friend (which seems truthful). I then messaged her later that week and she said her week was 2 busy to meet up. However a few hours later she messaged again saying she was free the next week.

Ok that's fair.

I canceled to not look too desperate.

What the hell? What do you mean you cancelled? This girl was saying she wanted to spend time with you but because she was too busy during the previous week, you got upset and cancelled? Not wise. No wonder she is angry

It has now been a week since the proposed date and we have only talked breifly (through texting) with her ending the conversation abruptly. I havent heard back no for about 5 days.
My question is shall i contact her and arrange a date or wait for her to do so? Its just that at one point i may have came on to quick and maybe despereate and this may have ruined the relationship. Not sure.
Any insights would be appreciated. :)
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Relationship? I'm not sure if what you are describing is one. IMHO I would not contact her until she contacts you.
 
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Hey thanks for your view.
In regards to the visiting at work, she was working by her self and was just closing up the store. It was really after her closing up we were talking and there was no one else (boss etc) to see. so i don't think that was aa huge problem.

Also i think u are right in saying i am in a friend zone now. However, she is good friends with one of my friends who happened to let it slip at one stage that she was really into me (even proved by a text she sent to him). So i knew she was thinking of me as more than a friend previously.

In regards to canceling to not look desperate i still believe i had a genuine reason for this (and i did actually have something on which was important). I know it is not really too clear with the breif description i gave initially. She knew that i was not just making things up either and i was telling the truth.

Also she does seem kinda shy around guys so i was thinking this may play a part it the whole thing?
 
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