"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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alrite guys heres the story i talked to this girl for a week by textin and callin every day told her i wana take her out and **** on a saturday and told her to call me wen shes free... she goes ill callu later and doesnt.. then IMs me on sunday the next day and talks then I messed up by saying within 2 minutes of the convo so when am i taking you out.. she goes i dont want a long realtinoship we can go out as friends.. soooo havent talked to her since saw her at the club tonite thursday.. and she comes up to me HEYYY u dont call me any more and starts dancing wit me then shes like come help me find my firends so i walk wit her to the bar .. then i go i gotta go find mine ill talk to u later so i find my boy dance upstairs.... question is what do i do ???? talk to her or nooo i think i shouldnt and just let it be... PS.. i saw her give another guy her number soo w/e
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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alrite guys heres the story i talked to this girl for a week by textin and callin every day told her i wana take her out and **** on a saturday and told her to call me wen shes free... she goes ill callu later and doesnt.. then IMs me on sunday the next day and talks then I messed up by saying within 2 minutes of the convo so when am i taking you out.. she goes i dont want a long realtinoship we can go out as friends.. soooo havent talked to her since saw her at the club tonite thursday.. and she comes up to me HEYYY u dont call me any more and starts dancing wit me then shes like come help me find my firends so i walk wit her to the bar .. then i go i gotta go find mine ill talk to u later so i find my boy dance upstairs.... question is what do i do ???? talk to her or nooo i think i shouldnt and just let it be... PS.. i saw her give another guy her number soo w/e
Anyone want to completely obliterate this post?

Dude, I think the problem is you. EDIT: I know the problem is you.

I almost stopped reading after you said you called and texted her everyday. And who cares if she gave another guy her # - you are not her boyfriend.
 

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I really hate it when people don't capitalize their "I's." Your grammar sucks so bad I don't even want to give you advice.
 
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i knoowww sorry about the grammer.. but your right up there i am the problem i played too easy to get and the nice car on her which was a big mistake.. i should of played girls how i normally do its just she was really hot and seemed like great girlfriend material so i did not want to pass it up and i tried hard.. next time i will tell her ill call you later and wont for a day or two like im suppose to do.....
 

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Man sometimes life is about making things less complicated, and what I suggest is that you:

1. Ask her why she's playing around.

Yeah I know it sounds really dumb and that she gave her number to the other guy and everything but look - She's probably playing games with you. And girls HATE AND LOVE when they get caught doing it. And, that's cool with me. And it should be with you aswell.

One of the strongest ways to attract a girl is when you have them getting "caught in action". I don't know if this will work with this girl but since you probably won't end up with her anyway it doesn't matter if you ask.

So, how to do it?

Simple: Look, Sara (or whatever her name is) I know this question sounds kinda weird and everything but c'mon, you know that I know that you're playing around and all, so I just wanted to ask you why you're doing that with me. Is there a game going on or are you just playing around?

Man I can 100% TRUST YOU THAT this will freak her out. I tried it and - every - single - time - it gets girls to the go like:

a) "WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" (with a ????? look in face)

b) "Gosh you can't be for real (SMILE)!" (With a big smile on face).

It doesn't matter if a or be happens. It could be any of them - Because you get her emotional and you're starting up a conversation AND LEADING IT. So, call her up, be gentle, and just ask in a playful way.

Good luck..
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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