just another newb??
Don Juan
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Thank you for listening my friends. In faith i turn to you because i believe there are wize and smart dons who could give me some direction. I am on a tough cross-road here, and im not quite sure which is the right road.
on these boards it is mostly tought that the focus must always be on YOU. And there is a point...beacause you are the constant which never changes, what ever happens you and what you have become remains. If the focus is off you, then you cannot grow.
Law of nature: What does not grow or expand, starts dieing(sp?).
But
there is another school of thought, one in which the focus is off you and on the world arround you. A complete opposite of what sosuave teaches you, is it not?
Yet some of the most powerful and charismatic presences and states iv had always come, when the focus is entirely off me and on present world arround me. It almost feels as god has taken over my body and mind and I am just enjoying the free ride.
how does this school of thought deal with the fact that we all have to grow...well they believe that we have already been created perfect and all we need to do is loose the bad beliefs.
"When a person becomes terribly interesting he has lots of problems, believe me. That is the chasm which is crossed by all of your celebrities, anybody who is foolish enough to become famous. He crosses over from being interested in life to being interesting. And people who are interesting are really no longer interested in life."
When your thoughts are more on others than on yourself, you feel little stress. You act and respond with more intelligence. Your production level increases and you have more fun.(you stop thinking about yourself, not self concious and just have fun and do what you want)
When you are interested, people love your interest in them. They want to be around you. - this is the essence of charisma, making the other person feel as if he/she is important.
BUT...no its not that easy either
Ever notice that when some people try to make you the centre of the universe it just dosnt feel right and youd rather think of them as freaks/idiots/nerds than a charismatic don juan.
and some people are just not comfortable being in the centre of your attention so they feel uneasy and overwhelmed with your attention.
So what is the secret that makes some people bring out the best in other people(these people we love the most because around thm we can be ourselves)
Im sure the answer is out there...probably i even know the answer but i would appreciate if someone could de-code it for me.
looking forward to see the replies.
on these boards it is mostly tought that the focus must always be on YOU. And there is a point...beacause you are the constant which never changes, what ever happens you and what you have become remains. If the focus is off you, then you cannot grow.
Law of nature: What does not grow or expand, starts dieing(sp?).
But
there is another school of thought, one in which the focus is off you and on the world arround you. A complete opposite of what sosuave teaches you, is it not?
Yet some of the most powerful and charismatic presences and states iv had always come, when the focus is entirely off me and on present world arround me. It almost feels as god has taken over my body and mind and I am just enjoying the free ride.
how does this school of thought deal with the fact that we all have to grow...well they believe that we have already been created perfect and all we need to do is loose the bad beliefs.
"When a person becomes terribly interesting he has lots of problems, believe me. That is the chasm which is crossed by all of your celebrities, anybody who is foolish enough to become famous. He crosses over from being interested in life to being interesting. And people who are interesting are really no longer interested in life."
When your thoughts are more on others than on yourself, you feel little stress. You act and respond with more intelligence. Your production level increases and you have more fun.(you stop thinking about yourself, not self concious and just have fun and do what you want)
When you are interested, people love your interest in them. They want to be around you. - this is the essence of charisma, making the other person feel as if he/she is important.
BUT...no its not that easy either
Ever notice that when some people try to make you the centre of the universe it just dosnt feel right and youd rather think of them as freaks/idiots/nerds than a charismatic don juan.
and some people are just not comfortable being in the centre of your attention so they feel uneasy and overwhelmed with your attention.
So what is the secret that makes some people bring out the best in other people(these people we love the most because around thm we can be ourselves)
Im sure the answer is out there...probably i even know the answer but i would appreciate if someone could de-code it for me.
looking forward to see the replies.