"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Problem: sober vs drunk (drinking) girls

TheMaestro87

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I recently broke up with my girlfriend of a few months (who I got thanks to this site) because of time and jealousy (on her side) issues. We still have a good relationship so I'm not bummed and looking for a rebound, just looking to go out and have a good time and attract some pretty ladies. I recently joined a fraternity at my college so I've been going to a lot of parties. This is where the problem comes in: I don't drink. I smoke a lot and am usually high at the parties but I don't drink. When I'm in classes, I'm fine talking to girls and approaching and everything but I find that girls in classes who I actually get attention from are looking for relationships, not hook ups. I'm not ready for another relationship yet, but I just can't get comfortable talking to drunk or drinking girls at parties when they know I'm sober. Any thoughts or ideas, besides starting to drink?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Boston DJ

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Do coke it will make you more outgoing as opposed to the stoner hippie.

Also, atleast have a beer in your hand even if you arent drinking it so you don't look like a f*cking Mormon at the party.
 

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Also, atleast have a beer in your hand even if you arent drinking it so you don't like like a f*cking Mormon at the party.
lol :crackup:


why would you be willing to do drugs but not drink? In any case, my guess is that there should be a decent supply of female non-drinkers that you can go after. They're a little more of a challenge than drunk girls, but that's the burden you must bear...
 

DJVladdy

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Watch 40 y.o. virgin
Theres a line about drunk chicks ull never forget lol
 

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Most of the girls I've met in class are looking for something a little bit more... But you can find the ones that are down too :p Is there any reason you don't drink? If you're fun and have high energy without the liquor, then don't worry about it. And just make sure you're socialable and talk to girls if you're gonna smoke at all.

PS go after the girl wearing letters, hah! just watch out cause they love to talk.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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TheMaestro87

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I'm going to start drinking sometime in the near future, but have just avoided it because I haven't seen too many effects I like. Anyways, I can be very outgoing and likable without alcohol but I'm not completely comfortable on the party scene yet. I think once I am, I won't have a problem with this.

Anyways, coke is out of the question, so the general suggestions are look for sorority girls, find girls in class not looking for relationships and watch the 40 year old virgin?
 

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designated drivers usually don't want in on the action :cool:

they're a bunch of stupid mother figures, sometimes fat (or so I hear. I'm not actually in a frat so a lot of this is hearsay)
 
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