"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Preselection by good looking male friends?

OC Speedball

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Now, my first introduction to the PUA community was reading the Mystery Method last summer. In it he talks about preselection by women. If good looking women are hanging around you then other women see this and become interested in you. They see that you must have something of value.

You probably already know this. But what if you have good looking male friends? Would this work the same way? It seems that it would because you are in a little "clique" or "circle" of good looking guys. I figure girls see this as higher value.

OR (if you aren't as good looking as your guy friends) would this decrease your value?

I remember in high school there would always be a few average looking girls that were friends with the hot girls. Normally these girls would be...well, average. But since they were friends with the hot girls they automatically were more attractive to me.


What are your thoughts on this?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Maybe, but those better looking male friends would theoretically bring more competition. But this screams of over thinking, in my humble opinion. I've never used looks for a guy as a screening process for a good friend.
 

scribblec

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reminds me of an episode of how i met your mother

lookup the cheerleader effect :p
 

Strelok

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When somebody doesn't know you he/she pay attention to your affiliation and how the people around treat you in order to have an opinion about you,therefore being seen with certain kind of people communicate that for some reason you belong to that category and as long as you dont screw up you will probably treated as one of those.

Example=
1)you enter the gym and you see an average guys training with a couple of big guys who are pushing hard and giving high fives,even if the guy is average you somehow think that he is a regular who knows what he is doing.

2)you inter the gym you see the same guy walking on the threadmill with a skinny guys and a fat girl who train mindless doing wrong things,you assume the guy is new to the gym and still doesnt know what he is doing.

So being your perceived status something important when it comes of girls,being you seen with people of good status will improve the chance for success,in their mind even if you dont look like them there's a reason why you are affiliated with them.
It's not so much about who you are but your image and your reputation.

The affiliation system is actually effective for real,just try to check the facebook board of someone you know and you will see that the majority is usually people of the same kind.
Hotties have many hotties among their friends as much as a nerd has many nerds.
 

The_411

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Yes,

It can work with guys. You just have to understand that if the guys you are with have better game they might take the girl you want to hook up with....

That being said just to go out with guys because they're good looking to help you chase tail without actually having good relationships with them will sink you fast, because when your group hooks up with a group of girls they will smell the lack of group dynamic.

Women tend to love groups of guys who have great chemistry as group. The individual memebers of the group could consist of two good looking guys and 3 guys who are average but because there's a group of guys who have

a) a story/history with you
b) feel more comfortable because you can still have fun with your boys and not be dependent on picking on some girl
d) your boys can keep you ****y and funny because guys tend to bust each others balls
e) your boys can keep you in check d) there's a natural pairing off that takes place.

Those average looking three get their game amped up because the group is fun, crazy, mischievous etc and women love that ****e.


Just a get a crew together of your friends that like to go out have a good time and aren't boring or killjoys. Make sure you guys dress in a cohesive style. Doesn't mean you all need to rock the same gear, but you need to look like you guys know each other and didn't just meet outside the club.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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i can see this having merit if they are cool guys, and a girl sees you with them it might drill it in that you really are cool. i have some 'cool' friends, and some 'uncool' and sometimes even embarrassing friends, but theyre still my friends and are more important than impressing a random girl!
 

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NO I am not asking this to see if I should call up my best looking friends and go hit the club with them. I am just asking this in theory. I've always thought about this, I think it's interesting.

I am actually very bad at judging other guy's looks. I mean, I can tell if a guy is really good looking- David Beckham, Brad Pitt, Val Kilmer. And if a guy is really ugly- Brian Peppers, etc. But it's hard for me to tell off the bat any new guy I get to know. I usually gauge a guy's attractiveness on how many hot "girl" friends he has orbitting around him. The hotter they are the better looking I assume he is.

And yeah, I don't judge my friends based on looks. I have ugly friends, fat friends and friends that are being chased BY THE GIRLS. Unfortunately I was not born with natural game. Ha.
 
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