"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pregnancy

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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All the time, but I use condoms and so far have been lucky. Just don't get buzzed and trust her that she is on the pill. I know it is so tempting, and hard to say no, but that could be a 500-3000$ a month mistake for 18 years...
 

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Buddha_Mind said:
:nono:

Wrap it, yes. Getting laid is great, and I know condoms are highly effective, but do any of you older gents ever worry about this?

Vasectomy. It's the only way to really be sure.
 

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I have turned down too much sex for lack of a condom, but I don't have any kids, unlike every other guy around here.

I think I have a mental block about carrying a condom, it seems sleazy and cheesy as hell...but I should get over it and start carrying a Johnny!
 

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bigjohnson said:
Vasectomy. It's the only way to really be sure.
LOL, they were replaying the best War of the Roses for the year and the one this morning on the way in to work was a guy who's gf got knocked up. She didn't know that about 2 years before they met he got a vasectomy. She denied denied denied denied any infidelity. Then she finally said what if somebody drugged me? Sometimes you wake up and don't remember blah blah blah. Show's host called her out on it and said she better remember who she woke up with the next morning because that's the guy she needs to get a hold of.

I should note that the woman was straight up playing the guy who called into the show as a beta provider. She even said as much during the episode about how well off he is and tried to shame him by saying he just wanted out of child support and whatnot. Man it was a beautiful episode. Everyone should have to listen to it to get the full grasp of what women do to trap men.

Here's the link to the show. If anyone finds the episode I'm referring to please post a direct link:

http://hot995.kaneshow.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=kane_roses.xml
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Buddha_Mind said:
:nono:

Wrap it, yes. Getting laid is great, and I know condoms are highly effective, but do any of you older gents ever worry about this?
I stopped having sex for like 2 years at one point because I hooked up with a woman who just gave me that "I'm trying to get pregnant" vibe. To this day I pray that she didn't sabotage the condom somehow.

Moral: bring your own, dispose of them yourself. I'm neurotic enough to where I'll flush the condom myself, rather than leave it in a wastebasket for her to dispose of. Your genetic material is your responsibility.
 

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I use condoms religiously and dispose of them properly too. I'm very careful about that sort of thing. I also use spermicidal condoms to reduce the risk too.

I was so paranoid my first time that I secretly kept track of the girl's cycle and had sex with her the day before her period was due. She mentioned that she got it the next day. I was relieved to have lost my v card with no accidents LOL.

That method obviously isn't for ONS' because you don't know her cycle, but if you have a girlfriend it's not a bad idea to keep track and try to avoid sex during her most fertile times. Just another layer of protection if she's not on the pill.
 

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I have never used condoms and am yet to knock anyone up, never really payed much attention other than trusting girlfriends to be on birth control. I don't advocate my method, but there is something to be said for being in a ltr with someone you trust. If a girl is going to deceive me and get away with it, that is in part a failing of my own. I should have been smarter or more intuitive.

Some women think of pregnancy as a sexual fetish. It literally makes them horny. Like any fetish, it does not make sense, but also it is not something they choose, not any different than if they got off on feet or something else weird.

This thread is not very positive towards the female gender...although nothing said was really untrue. It is a matter of perspective. Plenty of men are giant douche bags toward women, too, but I don't want new girls I meet holding that against me. No guy does. But I won't ask for what I can't offer in return. I try to love all women, but at the same time be a quick and decisive judge of character, so that I can simply avoid the ones who will treat me poorly.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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sodbuster said:
Leykis advises tobasco sauce in the condom. Hilarious, listen to the tapes.
It sounds extreme, but it's not as crazy than the chicks that dumpster dive for the baby batter. I just wrap them with tp and flush. Problem solved.
 
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