"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

"Power" move made by Univ. of Chicago males

pua1989

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jul 14, 2006
Messages
292
Reaction score
3
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-u-of-c-mens-groupmay19,0,4707353.story

A group of University of Chicago students think it's time the campus focused more on its men.

A third-year student from Lake Bluff has formed Men in Power, a student organization that promises to help men get ahead professionally. But the group's emergence has been controversial, with some critics charging that its premise is misogynistic.

...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

DonGorgon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
4,679
Reaction score
102
Location
Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
pua1989 said:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-u-of-c-mens-groupmay19,0,4707353.story

A group of University of Chicago students think it's time the campus focused more on its men.

A third-year student from Lake Bluff has formed Men in Power, a student organization that promises to help men get ahead professionally. But the group's emergence has been controversial, with some critics charging that its premise is misogynistic.

...
lol.. they gona have to hire prostitutes... cause females wont have anyone trying to resist their ***** power..
 

FairShake

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 8, 2008
Messages
2,405
Reaction score
306
pua1989 said:
But the group's emergence has been controversial, with some critics charging that its premise is misogynistic.
More often than not men already have the power professionally. Depends on the situation though.

I think alot of mans' problems are best dealt with internally rather than challenging the social power structure. Problems with women, problems with jobs, problems with school are often our own making and our own lack of balls.

Except for divorce and custody of course. That's some shameful ****e right there.
 

Unbridled_Phoenix

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
677
Reaction score
25
I hope they are misogynistic. That word is now unjustly equated with words like "torture" and "genocide" in our society.
 

amoka

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
1,931
Reaction score
62
Check out the comments: one woman called herself "Mom" claims: "Yeah women may earn more degrees, but they still make LESS money for the same position.
Sounds like insecure men... "
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

daygameguy

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 17, 2008
Messages
996
Reaction score
27
Location
NY
Univ of Chicago is fvcking crap.
 

I'm in the Mood

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 3, 2008
Messages
702
Reaction score
17
Location
Cloud 9
SoSuave to me seems very similar to this Men in Power thing.
We have a slightly different focus than professional success, but it all revolves around the male mind.
Yall should know by now, self improvement is one of the most amazing things you can do with your life.

I applaud Men in Power for showing male self-advocacy, the willingness to help men in need and the desire to succeed...man this is some underrated shyt!

But realize...if MiP is misogynistic, then feminism must be misandry.

Damn it, sexist discrimination is total nonsense.
 

jocca

Don Juan
Joined
Mar 7, 2007
Messages
189
Reaction score
3
A well overdue step in the right direction. Wasnt at all surprised either to see the female shaming tactics present in the comments below ("sounds like they all cant get a girlfriend" et el). Women really do struggle in general to form an intelligent debate when they're extremely shakey "facts" and ideology is thrown into question.
 

Phenomenal One

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2009
Messages
179
Reaction score
8
Location
Long Island, New York
I think alot of mans' problems are best dealt with internally rather than challenging the social power structure. Problems with women, problems with jobs, problems with school are often our own making and our own lack of balls.
i think it's more than that,
i think it's some mens fear of offending or angering woman.

you look at guys who are successful with woman and life in general,
they don't care if they anger/offend someone.

their actions and what they say are'nt limited to what won't offend/anger someone.

jocca said:
A well overdue step in the right direction. Wasnt at all surprised either to see the female shaming tactics present in the comments below ("sounds like they all cant get a girlfriend" et el). Women really do struggle in general to form an intelligent debate when they're extremely shakey "facts" and ideology is thrown into question.
the worst thing about it is people take shaming to heart,
and either hide in their shells like a bunch of turtles or start defending themselves.

shaming is nothing but small insults made by even smaller people.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

Hughman

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 25, 2009
Messages
479
Reaction score
4
Location
Birmingham, UK
Reminds me of me of my stupid deputy-head of 6th form (college), who is a feminist. She tried to set up a feminist society in her old school, but was told that the school would then have to allow a male 'misogynist' society to represent both 'view points'. Faced with having to 'allow' misogynist to have a platform, she abandoned her idea.

School 1 - Stupid feminist 0

Good on these guys for standing up for themselves and not backing down to their critics.
 

I'm in the Mood

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 3, 2008
Messages
702
Reaction score
17
Location
Cloud 9
Phenomenal One said:
i think it's more than that,
i think it's some mens fear of offending or angering woman.

you look at guys who are successful with woman and life in general,
they don't care if they anger/offend someone.

their actions and what they say are'nt limited to what won't offend/anger someone.
I think it's the fear of being judged.
If somebody calls you out on something, and you defend yourself, you're protecting your self-judgement. When you defend yourself, you're doing so because you think the person calling you out is judging you and you're afraid of them getting a negative image of you in their mind.

To me, this raises the question: how do you deal with frustration?
One example that women commonly use is ASD, which is very tactical because it's also an SSI, communicating that they're not "easy" and not sluts.

What can men do to defend themselves though?
I'm not exactly sure how, but I know that it has something to do with power.
Anger, frustration and violence are not positive defenses. Power and influence are.
 
Top