"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alrite, I was dating this girl for about 5 months. She started to act all flakey b/c she said she was "bored" which was all my fault. I decided to go on a "break" and she says she still has feelings for me, and we are thinking about getting back together. Well after a week of not seeing eachother I invite her to come along with a group of friends to watch a baseball game. We made a lot of signs of physical contact, like playful hitting, and she put her head on my shoulder a lot, but when i tried to hold her hand she refused, yet she had no problem putting her head on my shoulder?

Here's my question, I just want her as a mate for the next few months, before I go to school, what would be the best possible action for me? Just to ganji her? Or keep taking her out and actually try to talk my way back, I haven't been giving her too much attention, and we haven't been talking on the phone THAT much either.

I just need some advice on how I can get her back. (PS I'm still going after new girls to date in the mean time, I just want this one back for a second try.)

Thanks.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Try reverse psychology on her. Tell her that after thinking, you don't think it's gonna work out between you two, because you don't seem to have as much chemistry as u thought you would have. If you want, you can add that it's because she doesn't seem that much into you, which is true (from what u wrote).

This is a test of her interest level. If she really doesnt like you, she will agree and it will be over. So there's nothing u could have done to save the relationship anyways. If she starts saying that SHE IS into you and that you should try being a couple again, then you have won her for now. It doesnt mean it will last for a long time, but it will temporarely raise her IL enough for your purposes. Good luck buddy.
 

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Thanks. Last night she told me she wasn't sure about me, and she still needs time to think. I'm just going to cut off all contact from her and if she calls then she's interested.

Thanks for the advice flying shark
 

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Originally posted by cyjay201
Thanks. Last night she told me she wasn't sure about me, and she still needs time to think. I'm just going to cut off all contact from her and if she calls then she's interested.

Thanks for the advice flying shark
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His advice wasn't to cut off all contact with her. It was to communicate that you don't think you two are working out and should call it quits. I think this is a good idea.

Call her bluff and see if she folds.
 

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So I should basically LJBF her? or just say that a relationship wouldn't be a good idea. Well it will definatly confuse the hell out of her, b/c she kept putting her head on my shoulder but didnt want to hold my hand, and says she's confused when I'm around.

Alrite, I'll take your guys advice Thanks.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by cyjay201
Alrite, I was dating this girl for about 5 months. She started to act all flakey b/c she said she was "bored" which was all my fault. I decided to go on a "break" and she says she still has feelings for me, and we are thinking about getting back together. Well after a week of not seeing eachother I invite her to come along with a group of friends to watch a baseball game. We made a lot of signs of physical contact, like playful hitting, and she put her head on my shoulder a lot, but when i tried to hold her hand she refused, yet she had no problem putting her head on my shoulder?

Here's my question, I just want her as a mate for the next few months, before I go to school, what would be the best possible action for me? Just to ganji her? Or keep taking her out and actually try to talk my way back, I haven't been giving her too much attention, and we haven't been talking on the phone THAT much either.

I just need some advice on how I can get her back. (PS I'm still going after new girls to date in the mean time, I just want this one back for a second try.)

Thanks.
She is LJBFing you. Show up somewhere where she is with another woman and you may get her back.
 

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Originally posted by cyjay201
So I should basically LJBF her? or just say that a relationship wouldn't be a good idea. Well it will definatly confuse the hell out of her, b/c she kept putting her head on my shoulder but didnt want to hold my hand, and says she's confused when I'm around.

Alrite, I'll take your guys advice Thanks.
Yeah you got to make a stand. She's being very selfish. She wants intimacy on her terms. In other words, she is trying to gain power in the relationship between you two. The one who decides what goes, is the one with the power. Right now, she's deciding what goes. This is UNACCEPTABLE.

She is a girl. You're the man. Act like it! Take a stand. Tell her what you want! If she will not comply, there are other girls who will. As PRL would say, men LEAD, women follow. That's the natural order of things. Not the other way around.
 

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Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
Yeah you got to make a stand. She's being very selfish. She wants intimacy on her terms. In other words, she is trying to gain power in the relationship between you two. The one who decides what goes, is the one with the power. Right now, she's deciding what goes. This is UNACCEPTABLE.

She is a girl. You're the man. Act like it! Take a stand. Tell her what you want! If she will not comply, there are other girls who will. As PRL would say, men LEAD, women follow. That's the natural order of things. Not the other way around.
Thanks I LJBF her. She's probably confused out of her mind right now, b/c last night i told her i wanted her back. Oh well, I'm going out tonight, if I see a cute girl ill ask for her number.

To all who contributed to this thread, thanks for helping me remove my head from my ass.
 

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Originally posted by cyjay201
Thanks I LJBF her. She's probably confused out of her mind right now, b/c last night i told her i wanted her back. Oh well, I'm going out tonight, if I see a cute girl ill ask for her number.

To all who contributed to this thread, thanks for helping me remove my head from my ass.
Any time buddy:D
You can count on us for that:cheer:
 

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Well it's working, she's interested in what i have to say now. I got pictures from a outing together back today and she asked "Do I look ugly in them?"

I responded with "Why do you ask stupid questions that you and I both know the answer to?" (Usually would have responded with. NO YOU LOOK GREAT!)

She then said "Sorry I wont ask anymore stupid questions."

Thanks for helping me out in this situation, I don't know how it will turn out, but it looks like I have control now.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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