"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Possible Oneitis...

Kaliffoo

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Well, here's the story: I met this HB8 3 months ago and have been talking and going out ever since. Before we had sex she made me promise that I wouldnt fvck with any other girls and that if I did, I should let her know right away.

My question is this, we have never really talked about a relationship (i.e. Boyfriend/girldfriend), but im starting to really like this chick, do I at any point bring that up or wait for her to say something. Or does the fact that we have sex in her mind mean that automatically we're boyfriend/girlfriend?

I dont wanna mess up a good thing, so any advice/insight would be appreciated.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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GropeDope

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Sounds you guys just haven't had "THE TALK" yet. LOL
 

frivolousz21

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you need a women....if u didnt u wouldnt be here.

why?

you will have sex again
you will care again
you will probably love again


so asking the girl you care for to be ur partner, gf, or whatever isnt weak...

how should he approach it then?
 

frivolousz21

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I see why you think that....

but asking her to be his girl isnt needy..

we arent cavemen.
its repsectful...needy is calling her 8 times per day in fear of losing her :)

he should bring it up first some how..thats how ive done it everytime as well.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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When a woman wants to talk to you about the possibility of an exclusive relationship...then things are going good...

If a man needs to talk to a woman about the possibility of an exclusive relationship...then things are going bad...

I agree with Sazuki...DO NOT ask her about a relationship....remember...you are the prize...she is the one that needs to be talking to you about a relationship...

-Liquid
 

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I think you guys misunderstood me. I dont want to ask her to be my girlfriend because I want us to be exclusive or because i'm afraid things are not going well.

We already established that neither one of us would date/talk to other people. She said: "I really like you, but if you still want to date other women let me know now because I dont want to end up hurt."

I have no need to date/talk to any other chick, i'm satisfied with her, so i agreed to being exclusive.

Right now, I have everything I want...I have a girl to spend time with, I get sex regularly and a good friend.

I have never been in a serious relationship before, so I was more curious to see if there is anything i''m missing out on by not being formally boyfriend/girlfriend with her. Does that make more sense??
 

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You even starting this thread means you have oneitis, youre just in denial and trying to have somone else agree that your not .... find another girl.
 

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Dont ask. Girls dont like it, they love the drama, not knowing exactly what's in your head. This will make her want you the same, or more than by asking her! Think about it.

Just live one day at a time and enjoy, one day, then another.

At some point, both of you will know that it evolved into a relation.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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you're already formally a couple. she established that before the first romp

you don't date/talk etc. she established the rules, you agreed, she gave you your reward and now you're off to the races.

if it's your first LTR, just go with it. it probably won't last (most don't) so get in, mix it up and enjoy yourself with her and learn as much as you can for as long as it lasts.

if you're satisfied, what's the problem? go with it for now.

if things change, re-evaluate
 
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