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Yes that is true. I am talking abut what is the condition to make you be able to have morals. The same condition can be basis to act against morals but that is not my point.
Yes. Even though ir may be hard to believe, Some folks literally don't have them. Live in the lizard mind. Usually end up jailed or killed.
 

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Yes. Even though ir may be hard to believe, Some folks literally don't have them. Live in the lizard mind. Usually end up jailed or killed.
Yes we all know that education is quite important. If the frontal lobe is not developed through education or natural high IQ than things get hard. The guy tries to solve a problem but the frontal lobe is basically empty so he is left with the reptilian brain.

(re)education is not easy sometimes:

 

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Yes we all know that education is quite important. If the frontal lobe is not developed through education or natural high IQ than things get hard. The guy tries to solve a problem but the frontal lobe is basically empty so he is left with the reptilian brain.

(re)education is not easy sometimes:

Where any of the known high IQ or brilliant types known to be "womanizers"? Im sure some were brilliant in those pursuits too.
 

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Where any of the known high IQ or brilliant types known to be "womanizers"? Im sure some were brilliant in those pursuits too.
Of course. I guess only they can have access to the highest level if they make it a priority. Casanova is a great example for it.
 

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@Epicenter nice copy + paste. So much for free thinking....
Impulsive people are regularly in prisons because they can not control themselves.
Again, you got it twisted. Just because prisoners tend to be more impulsive than the general population does not mean that all impulsive people have criminal tendencies. That’s like saying that because men are in prison more than women that therefore all men are criminals. That makes no sense.
No the the guy would kill the dog owner because he has no self control. The guy with morals can do the right thing according to his thoughts on morals.
Impulsive people are regularly in prisons because they can not control themselves. They are like animals.

Kant came up with a moral law.
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In Moral Law, Kant argues that a human action is only morally good if it is done from a sense of duty, and that a duty is a formal principle based not on self-interest or from a consideration of what results might follow.
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Kant's improvement on the golden rule, the Categorical Imperative: Act as you would want all other people to act towards all other people. Act according to the maxim that you would wish all other rational people to follow, as if it were a universal law.
Thats not what the Categorical Imperative is, the Categorical Imperative is what I said before of morals being innate.
The reptilian brain, the oldest of the three, controls the body's vital functions such as heart rate, breathing, body temperature and balance. Our reptilian brain includes the main structures found in a reptile's brain: the brainstem and the cerebellum.
Please stop using this term, it is so extremely unscientific and ignorant to use.
The frontal lobe is the part of the brain that controls important cognitive skills in humans, such as emotional expression, problem solving, memory, language, judgment, and sexual behaviors. It is, in essence, the “control panel” of our personality and our ability to communicate.
Lol it does not include sexual behaviors outside of controlling them lmao and most of language is unspoken btw, so it’s not in the neocortex either.
The frontal lobe has to be trained to make him work properly. That is not an easy thing. That is why progression in morals and technology is slow.
Firstly, technology has been evolving faster than ever before, so that’s not true lol.

But secondly, you can’t “advance” or “progress” in morals, it just doesn’t work because there’d need to be such a thing as objective morality, which there isn’t (aside from religion). That’s what Kant was trying to do/create with his ‘Categorical Imperative’. But like I said, there is no such thing as objective morality which is why all moral debates are literally pointless and why Kant’s moral stuff is just bull**** like everyone else lol
 

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The reptilian brain is a well enough scientific term:

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Triune brain - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Triune_brain


In many humans the reptilian cortex (agenda: territory and reproduction [in humans that translates to power and sex]) is out of control and the amygdala stokes the fear that leads to more bad behavior. The prefrontal cortex is the key to our future if we can harness its power
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I said that progress in technology is slow. I didn't compare it to anytime. If I want to compare it I would compare it to Star Trek utopia.

Morals are not totally relative. There is a progress there. Complex modern cultures need complex moral codes.
 

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On best gore there several videos from pakistan and india, couple of video women getting hit for dancing and two more being shot for dancing. You can’t change them, that’s why europe is bad now.
 

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On best gore there several videos from pakistan and india, couple of video women getting hit for dancing and two more being shot for dancing. You can’t change them, that’s why europe is bad now.
Or you bring their best:



Visalini. K. Visalini is an Indian prodigy who is purported to have an officially tested IQ of 225. Visalini also holds several other records including the youngest person to receive CCNA certification and youngest person to receive EXIN cloud computing certification.

K. Visalini - Wikipedia
 

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The reptilian brain is a well enough scientific term:

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Triune brain - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Triune_brain


In many humans the reptilian cortex (agenda: territory and reproduction [in humans that translates to power and sex]) is out of control and the amygdala stokes the fear that leads to more bad behavior. The prefrontal cortex is the key to our future if we can harness its power
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I said that progress in technology is slow. I didn't compare it to anytime. If I want to compare it I would compare it to Star Trek utopia.

Morals are not totally relative. There is a progress there. Complex modern cultures need complex moral codes.
Again to Kant:



Kant's improvement on the golden rule, the Categorical Imperative: Act as you would want all other people to act towards all other people. Act according to the maxim that you would wish all other rational people to follow, as if it were a universal law.
Categorical Imperative - QCC
www.qcc.cuny.edu › Chapter_2_Ethical_Traditions › C...
You are reading stuff without having the understanding to know what you’re talking about. The triune model doesn’t consider specifics at all, it’d be like categorizing things as vehicles and nonvehicles for modes of travel, rather than car, bike, truck, motorcycle, skateboard, etc. And the Categorical Imperative is supposed to be something innate i.e. universal. It’s just (supposedly) derived from rationale. The whole ‘treat others the way you want to be treated’ quote is just magnifying one extremely small part of what it COULD be, but isn’t what the Categorical imperative actually is; again, the Categorical Imperative is something fundamental, hence why it has the word “imperative” in it. Like I said, you’re quoting things without understanding what they actually mean.
 

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You are reading stuff without having the understanding to know what you’re talking about. The triune model doesn’t consider specifics at all, it’d be like categorizing things as vehicles and nonvehicles for modes of travel, rather than car, bike, truck, motorcycle, skateboard, etc. And the Categorical Imperative is supposed to be something innate i.e. universal. It’s just (supposedly) derived from rationale. The whole ‘treat others the way you want to be treated’ quote is just magnifying one extremely small part of what it COULD be, but isn’t what the Categorical imperative actually is; again, the Categorical Imperative is something fundamental, hence why it has the word “imperative” in it. Like I said, you’re quoting things without understanding what they actually mean.
You said the term reptilian brain is not scientific. I showed it is.
You said the Categoric Imperativ has nothing to do with the "golden law". I showed it does.
 

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You said the term reptilian brain is not scientific. I showed it is.
You said the Categoric Imperativ has nothing to do with the "golden law". I showed it does.
“Reptilian brain” is not scientific at all. No one uses the triune model in brain-related field except when explaining things to your average layman, which is EXACTLY why I said you don’t know what you’re talking about. People just use it because it’s a simple & easy way of saying something (whether an act, behavior, habit, tendency, etc.) is deeply engrained within us, but they never use it to actually describe regions of the brain like that because it’s just not accurate. Why? Because ffs the brainstem does NOT control our sense of ‘morals’ or our ‘fight-or-flight’ response, that’s ridiculous. All of these things are controlled by the limbic system. And ‘higher morals’ don’t come from the neocortex, that’s just responsible for your ability to think and your awareness/cognizance.

As for the Categorical Imperative—I’ve explained what this is to you like 3 times already, but you keep conflating it with the ‘golden rule’. The golden rule according, to Kant, is an imperative; it is not the Categorical Imperative though, which is what you’ve basically been arguing the whole time. That would be like telling someone that because a Buick is a car that therefore all cars are Buicks; that’s just not right lmao

Even more, in that very same link you posted, it LITERALLY says in caps, bold, and underline several times that the Categorical Imperative is not the same as the golden rule:

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Here’s some more quotes from that very same link that work completely against you:

“[The Categorical Imperative] is not a command to perform specific actions” (second sentence)​

“It does not say, "follow the 10 commandments", or "respect your elders". (also second sentence)​

“It is simply formal procedure by which to evaluate any action about which might be morally relevant.” (third sentence)​

“[By] nature (according to Kant) the moral law is universal and impartial and rational.” (first sentence, second paragraph; universality + impartiality is exactly what I’ve been saying the Categorical imperative is, and rationality proves that “primitive” morals are anything but of the ‘lizard brain’, which is what you’ve been saying)​

“[The] categorical is a way of formulating the criteria by which any action can pass the test of universality, impartiality, and rationality. That is it’s only function.” (second sentence, second paragraph)​

“Because the same result cannot be obtained by application of the Categorical Imperative, it follows that the Golden Rule and the Categorical Imperative are not extensionally equivalent.” (the sentence above the highlighted portion in the second picture)​

You’ve consistently shown you don’t know what you’re talking about and are just choosing cherrypicked quotes without any knowledge of the background information to understand what it even is that you’re quoting. Case in point:

countries liked to make wars is they had too many man
Countries liked to make wars because the male population was too high. This is despite the fact that numerous civilizations throughout history purposefully chose to kill female infants in favor of male infants.

Also, it’s *men, not “man”.
man (poor)
Specifically poor men? Ancient Rome, one of, if not, the most well-known nation to ever rise up, didn’t allow poor men to fight in their armies. It wasn’t until near the end of the Roman Republic when Gaius Marius instituted military reforms to prevent the downfall of Rome. This happened throughout history too, not just in Rome.
“All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” Now, there's some science behind that statement.
Opinion ≠ science, wtf???
your frontal cortex.
The term “frontal cortex” isn’t correct here. It’s either your prefrontal cortex, or your frontal lobe when you talk about higher executive functions.
The reptilian brain, the oldest of the three
people sometimes work with their lizard brain
Before, it was just a euphemism. Now, it’s actually a part of the brain. Cuz lizard brains TOTALLY exist inside of human brains, got it. :rolleyes:
Impulsive person can not be moral
Being passionate about something is a sin, I guess lol
sitting in the room by yourself can be a marker if you can keep a moral standard.
Sitting by yourself doing nothing makes you a moral person... yeah....
An impulsive person can not think deep to figure out in a certain environment.
Is this even English?
*sure
in the long winters indoors you might get bored and do some boom boom.
In SEA for example life was never really hard at all because they don't have a winter. They had plenty of time sex becomes then a hobby.
people made babies because they were bored
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