Pook beat my therapist ..

[Forty0ztoFreedom]

I go to a therapist, not for anything nuts, just to sort crap out every couple of weeks. I mentioned to him that I've been feeling better, kind of taking charge of things myself and not being such a baby about things and waiting for things to happen. Mentioned a girl losing interest in me, how I acted desperate and tried to cling to her (like a baby/AFC) and of course she went away. I then mentioned how I am just accepting it, and I understand why she would go away and its nothing to get too upset about. Its something I, myself, have to work on. It, along with "something I read online" opened up my eyes.

Basically I turned "away from the womb" and started in the other direction. The guy was almost floored because he was gonna give me similar advise and was impressed that I'd figured it out myself. 90% of this advice, of course, came from Pook's posts and the DJ bible.

This sh*t is GOLD and I am greatful for this site. I am not even scratching the surface yet, but I am positive that I am on the right track.

 

[guywhoneedshelp]

I agree this site and the bible has proven useful as it gives me the opportunity to put myself in my own view. It serves as sort of a "self discovery" for me, makes me realize how I was in certain situations, what I've done wrong and what I've done right.

Also, reading the bible is one of the best things I've done.

I know it's long, or whatever, and it may make you feel like a total loser "I can't believe I'm reading this" but I read it while I'm at work, so at least I'm getting paid to read it, and can honestly say it's very inspiring.

When you read it, it will reconnect you with your inner self and you will become a more attractive person. It's inspired me to lift more weight, play more piano, work harder, read more, socialize with different types of people, and so on. Definitely read it.

 

[cockerdumbnuts]

Yep, i read when i sh*t at work. Hell, I'm at work right now and I'm d*cken around on this site.

 

[Metaphysical]

yep pook's book is great if you're a beginner, i remember reading it like 2-3 years ago too and it helped me a lot

 

[Alle_Gory]

yep pook's book is great if you're a beginner

...waiting for a sales pitch...

 

[SharinganUser]

Pook beat my therapist ..

.. with a tire iron.

 

[Metaphysical]

Alle, pook's book is great. It has a lot of information on it and it's worth reading, but information is only information if you are not shown how to apply it. It's also outdated and a lot of the information from it has already made its way on every website out there. There's nothing new in his book that i haven't read somewhere on the web before.

 

[Darth]

Alle, pook's book is great. It has a lot of information on it and it's worth reading, but information is only information if you are not shown how to apply it. It's also outdated and a lot of the information from it has already made its way on every website out there. There's nothing new in his book that i haven't read somewhere on the web before.

Well, that's probably just people ripping off Pook.

Pook's ideas were very original back in the day, and even now Pook's book is my number one reference.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Alle, pook's book is great. It has a lot of information on it and it's worth reading, but information is only information if you are not shown how to apply it. It's also outdated and a lot of the information from it has already made its way on every website out there. There's nothing new in his book that i haven't read somewhere on the web before.

Its everywhere because its universal common sense. Also, alot of the info is somewhat vague, and it can mean different things to different people. I don't see how it can be outdated.

You might have outgrown it. But that does not mean that it no longer applies.


I really don't care if people have been ripping parts of it off. Pook's method of explaining things has not been duplicated. Alot of the info you find on the web has been diluted, or misunderstood from Pook's original work.

 

[KontrollerX]

Well, that's probably just people ripping off Pook.

Pook's ideas were very original back in the day, and even now Pook's book is my number one reference.

Pook ripped off Shakespeare, the Bible and many other books and references that he read over time.

I've even seen posters that have thought they were quoting Pook on here for something he said that inspired them and these posters didn't know they were reciting one of the Bible quotes Pook used.

Also Tom Leykis was around and doing his show before pretty much any seduction guru ever came along.

Leykis was doing radio way before Ross Jefferies started a PUA website.

If anyone's getting ripped off in the game its Tom Leykis.

Thats the only point I wanted to make.

I don't actually have anything against Pook as he's helped almost all of us a lot by putting many sources of information in easy to understand formats and helped many people through posting up topics that were a result of his own self questioning.

My factual pointing out here and criticism is more for Pook worshippers (which even Pook himself did not want) who think everything the guy said was original.

It wasn't.

Like most of us here he used brilliant sources to teach people here alongside his own thoughts and many of his fans just don't do enough digging to find that out for themselves so I thought I'd point it out.

That one brilliant Pook quote or teaching you read that one time may not of been from his mind exactly but that of the Bible book of Proverbs or from Shakespeare or from Leykis etc.

Some of the things he said were his own and some of the things he said were just things he learned and passed on without citing references.

And its alright as I'm sure he didn't have any negative intent by doing that but yeah once again just pointing out the facts here.

 

[Metaphysical]

and here comes my sales pitch. hahah

everything i wrote in my book over 115 pages are all things that are never talked about on this forum or any other ones out there.. like how to get women to obsess over you and how to get them dick drunk. (which means get them so addicted to your dick they can't think straight). or native indian techniques for conquering your fears and supressing them. =) i didn't waste my time writing out stuff that's already in these forums or anywhere else in the web. what would be the point of that?...

end of sales pitch. lol.

but yeah, pooks book is a MUST read for any beginner, it will build up their foundation and help them transfer to the next level of the game...

 

[Darth]

Oh, obviously Pook drew on a lot of other stuff- he didn't just make everything up. But, there's never been anyone else who's written articles with such a high concentration of eye-opening stuff, in a way that speaks to everybody. He is incredibly persuasive and he puts you into his mindset instantly.

That was the power of Pook's writing.

 

[KontrollerX]

True Darth.

He did have probably the most unique and gifted writing style ever seen on the site.

"like how to get women to obsess over you and how to get them **** drunk"

LMFAO, Dan I think you are the guy SunnyD's been obsessing over in all her topics and posts.

I'm gonna have to fvckin buy that e-book eventually man.

I already do quite well with the knowledge I have attained here and from 48 Laws of Power but I'm sure you have something new to teach and thats what we all should be about and that is constantly learning as much as we can.

 

[Groovy]

yep, totally agree, he's the funniest poster I've seen in this boards

yep pook's book is great if you're a beginner

Holy crap that was funny

 

[snowdog]

Pook has some really good stuff, I agree. But my opinion still stands that there is only one book you really need to read. I've been reading my ass off, and this is the only one that truly did something for me. There isn't one single trick in there on 'how to seduce' or whatever. It focussus on the mindset.

It's this one. This is stuff for normal people, PUA stuff from guys like Mystery is kinda weird. While those methods may work for some, they ceirtanly didn't for me and I can imagine I'm not the only one. From what I've read, these PUA are often weird kinda guys who use crazy stuff to get the chicks. I'm not learning card tricks or hypnosis to meet chicks that's one thing for sure... Seriously, check this book out. It's all you need.

 

[Metaphysical]

i read that one too. it was decent, but a good one was "The white pimp" if you like reading books. you will see the mindset pimps have. it's the game i learned and the game i preach about.

pimps are at the top of the food chain. they have so much control over women that they can do anything they please with her body, mind or soul.

personally i despise PUA's. they are just a bunch of clowns running around spitting stupid scripts at women trying to luck up on some ass.

 

[Warrior74]

god you fockers can nerd up a thread quick. Confucious gave us the golden rule before the bible...who gives a shyt. Truth is truth despite the source and if it helped this guy then that's all for the good. To the OP, keep growing and moving forward buddy.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Pook ripped off Shakespeare, the Bible and many other books and references that he read over time.

I've even seen posters that have thought they were quoting Pook on here for something he said that inspired them and these posters didn't know they were reciting one of the Bible quotes Pook used.

Also Tom Leykis was around and doing his show before pretty much any seduction guru ever came along.

Leykis was doing radio way before Ross Jefferies started a PUA website.

If anyone's getting ripped off in the game its Tom Leykis.

Thats the only point I wanted to make.

I don't actually have anything against Pook as he's helped almost all of us a lot by putting many sources of information in easy to understand formats and helped many people through posting up topics that were a result of his own self questioning.

My factual pointing out here and criticism is more for Pook worshippers (which even Pook himself did not want) who think everything the guy said was original.

It wasn't.

Like most of us here he used brilliant sources to teach people here alongside his own thoughts and many of his fans just don't do enough digging to find that out for themselves so I thought I'd point it out.

That one brilliant Pook quote or teaching you read that one time may not of been from his mind exactly but that of the Bible book of Proverbs or from Shakespeare or from Leykis etc.

Some of the things he said were his own and some of the things he said were just things he learned and passed on without citing references.

And its alright as I'm sure he didn't have any negative intent by doing that but yeah once again just pointing out the facts here.

Oh for Christs sake. Tom Leykis again? Jesus man are you like a groupie of his or something? Im starting to think that you may just be Uncle Tom himself.

Pooks stuff helps put things into perspective. There are a lot of guys out there who offer bits and pieces that you can use. The best thing to do is to take the advice of many and use the bits that you believe will aid you best. No one man has all the answers.

I like Pooks stuff a little more then anything else because he USES HISTORICAL QUOTES to help cement his views. He never plagiarized those words of wisdom. People worship pook because they guy has managed to express simple truths in an expressive way. It all comes down to how you relate to certain advice.

I liked Pooks contributions because he always believed that personal development was more important then any method or system. I respect that more then anything else. There is no manipulation and game playing. There is no outward blame. It all comes down to how you handle things and how you approach things. Its positive.

Tom is a sage but he is flawed too. He tends to display a lot of anger and resentment towards woman. Men and women are to blame for the situation and he is in many ways the opposite of what Pook was. He is negative.

 

[KontrollerX]

"please say thats sarcasm, dan is a clown, "secret shaman indian techniques to supress anxiety" where does he get this stuff from..."

Dan's a good guy whose here to help out giving tips on what he's learned just like any of us.

I think maybe he comes across as arrogant sometimes which is off putting to a lot of users here but I don't think he intends it.

Combine that with some honest to god jealousy of the guy mixed in and its a serious recipe for playa hatin.

And there really is no need to hate the guy as if you want a tip or to understand him better all you really gotta do is click on the PM button and ask him.

He's a naturally friendly guy but like anyone he's going to defend himself if attacked.

"if this was all that easy then we would all be don juans by now. believe me his book is about as helpful as the dictionary. actually scratch that the dictionary is better... i bought his book. biggest waste of money in my life."

Well if you don't want it PM it to me.

"Oh for Christs sake. Tom Leykis again? Jesus man are you like a groupie of his or something? Im starting to think that you may just be Uncle Tom himself."

Oh for Christ's sakes. Pook defending again? Jesus man are you like a groupie of his or something? I'm starting to think that you may be the messiah Pook himself!

"Pooks stuff helps put things into perspective. There are a lot of guys out there who offer bits and pieces that you can use. The best thing to do is to take the advice of many and use the bits that you believe will aid you best. No one man has all the answers."

Tom's stuff helps put things into perspective for weak males. There are a lot of guys out there who offer bits and pieces of advice that you can use. The best thing to do is to take the advice of many and use the bits that you believe will aid you best.

No one man has all the answers and I've never said Tom Leykis did but what he is that is valueable is a great resource to help young dumb stupid guys toughen up and become men.

His information unlike Pook's is not loaded with pie in the sky optimism and sugary loads of overwhelmingly unrealistic positivity that could give a diabetic a diabetic stroke oh no.

Tom Leykis's show is straight no nonsense realism.

Its the opposite of Pook in that it is complete real talk.

Pook's stuff is nice and great for beginner's as Metaphysical has said but the thing is you move on after reading enough of Pook to better material or at least you probably should.

Thats the difference between Pook's stuff and Tom Leykis.

Once you hear Leykis you really don't need to move onto any other guru or yearn to do so as he's simply the best at what he does and the proof is in pretty much the entire seduction community copping advice he was dishing out while they were children or AFC's wondering why chicks always took advantage of them or didn't give them the time of day.

Moving on though the main reason I post about Leykis so much is not so idiots can make comments that I'm a Leykis groupie its because I want the weak discussion forum young AFC's to see as well as the lurkers where they can get the best possible advice that is a good compliment to go along with all the advice on this site of how to have a successful life.

In short I want this site to get away from Pook's teaching and go more towards Tom's and I think we have been making that shift thanks to my and other's efforts.

I think Pook's stuff is well enough but I'm tired of the guy being worshipped for advice he didn't always come up with himself and even the stuff he did come up with as Metaphysical already stated is incredibly outdated.

Plus the guy abandoned the site and all the sycophants still worship him despite that which disgusts me.

No loyalty to the people= the people should move onto other heroes to worship if that is what they need.

And even though I'd prefer the hero to be Leykis it doesn't even have to be him.

David D or Mystery works just as well or even Interceptor or VU.

At least the last two guys remained a part of the community and are worthy of all the hero praise and sycophantic behavior from the membership instead of a guy that abandoned you all to go write in his blog posts that you all now regularly criticize as not being the old Pook.

"Tom is a sage but he is flawed too. He tends to display a lot of anger and resentment towards woman."

Actually he's not flawed.

He's in the business of teaching guy's how to get laid.

If you listen to his show and think wow this guy gives terrible relationship advice guess what?

He's not trying to teach guys how to have successful relationships!

Many of the people who call in and many of the people who criticize him on this board are sadly too dense to get that fact that he regularly has to repeat due to all the density out there.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

"Oh for Christs sake. Tom Leykis again? Jesus man are you like a groupie of his or something? Im starting to think that you may just be Uncle Tom himself."

Oh for Christ's sakes. Pook defending again? Jesus man are you like a groupie of his or something? I'm starting to think that you may be the messiah Pook himself!

"Pooks stuff helps put things into perspective. There are a lot of guys out there who offer bits and pieces that you can use. The best thing to do is to take the advice of many and use the bits that you believe will aid you best. No one man has all the answers."

Tom's stuff helps put things into perspective for weak males. There are a lot of guys out there who offer bits and pieces of advice that you can use. The best thing to do is to take the advice of many and use the bits that you believe will aid you best.

No one man has all the answers and I've never said Tom Leykis did but what he is that is valueable is a great resource to help young dumb stupid guys toughen up and become men.

His information unlike Pook's is not loaded with pie in the sky optimism and sugary loads of overwhelmingly unrealistic positivity that could give a diabetic a diabetic stroke oh no.

Tom Leykis's show is straight no nonsense realism.

Its the opposite of Pook in that it is complete real talk.

Leykis is cynical at best. Pook is trying to inspire people whereas Leykis is trying to knock some sense in them. I dont believe that one approach is better then the other I just believe that some approaches suit certain people more then others.

They both push for change, the difference is that Leykis does it from a point of resentment. Pook does it from a point of self realisation. People are going to respond differently to each approach.

There is no reason why a person could not benefit from both!

Pook's stuff is nice and great for beginner's as Metaphysical has said but the thing is you move on after reading enough of Pook to better material or at least you probably should.

Thats the difference between Pook's stuff and Tom Leykis.

Once you hear Leykis you really don't need to move onto any other guru or yearn to do so as he's simply the best at what he does and the proof is in pretty much the entire seduction community copping advice he was dishing out while they were children or AFC's wondering why chicks always took advantage of them or didn't give them the time of day.

Again, making Leykis the be all and end all. Maybe Leykis message is one that a lot of people cant agree with? The knob has been divorced 4 times. No wonder he is anti marriage. Not everyone wants to **** and chuck women until the day they die.

Pooks stuff is different and I dont understand why you have this need to draw a comparison. Pook was pushing personal development more then anything else. Leykis is handing out advice. Is the advice he offers poor? Not at all. The difference is that if people where in the right frame initially they would not be there in the first place.

The bottom line here is that someone took something out of Pooks contributions and felt a sense of improvement because of it. That is a good thing regardless of who the message came from. Everything else is irrelevant.

Moving on though the main reason I post about Leykis so much is not so idiots can make comments that I'm a Leykis groupie its because I want the weak discussion forum young AFC's to see as well as the lurkers where they can get the best possible advice that is a good compliment to go along with all the advice on this site of how to have a successful life.

In short I want this site to get away from Pook's teaching and go more towards Tom's and I think we have been making that shift thanks to my and other's efforts.

I think Pook's stuff is well enough but I'm tired of the guy being worshipped for advice he didn't always come up with himself and even the stuff he did come up with as Metaphysical already stated is incredibly outdated.

Plus the guy abandoned the site and all the sycophants still worship him despite that which disgusts me.

No loyalty to the people= the people should move onto other heroes to worship if that is what they need.

And even though I'd prefer the hero to be Leykis it doesn't even have to be him.

David D or Mystery works just as well or even Interceptor or VU

Dude, its an online forum. Not a way of life. How the hell you can you have an emotional attachment this deep? You feel betrayed? Is this whole thing about trying to get back at a member that has moved on?

Grow up man. For all the advice Leykis has given you on how to be a man it seems as if basic character is something he rarely touches. Are you that petty?

"Tom is a sage but he is flawed too. He tends to display a lot of anger and resentment towards woman."

Actually he's not flawed.

He's in the business of teaching guy's how to get laid.

If you listen to his show and think wow this guy gives terrible relationship advice guess what?

He's not trying to teach guys how to have successful relationships!

Many of the people who call in and many of the people who criticize him on this board are sadly too dense to get that fact that he regularly has to repeat due to all the density out there.

Thats because he really is not in a position to hand out relationship advice. He has been divorced 4 times. Maybe not everyone wants pickup advice? Maybe their problem is not a lack of sex its a lack of real value out of the time they spend with women?

Which makes me wonder just how well this guy has qualified women in the past if he has managed to go through 4 of them. No wonder he is such a public figure. Needs to make a fortune to cover all the weddings and divorces he has been through.

The promotional work you are doing for him needs to be saved for the right time and the right threads. The bottom line is that someone feels they are making progress only for you to knock that based on the fact that YOU dont feel the self same message has anymore value to YOU.

Ill take Pook over Leykis thanks. The sugar coated optimistic positive call for self improvement sounds like a much better concept then the cynical, practical views of a jaded man who has been divorced four times. Not everyone is looking to **** and chuck everything that looks good in a skirt.