POLL: what do you think about spinning plates?

[devilkingx2]

the classic piece of sosuave advice, spinning plates, the first thing you'll hear when you come here, the most important thing you'll ever hear to change your game, the biggest mark of a man successful with women, what do you guys think of it? I know not everyone agrees.

personally, I discovered spinning plates before i saw it on sosuave by total chance. back in high school I sort of had an unofficial thing with a girl who was a bit of a moody b!tch (but when she was in a good mood we would make out and stuff), by flirting and hanging out with other girls while she was in a bad mood, I was able to avoid the BS, and when I didn't have other girls around, i had to deal with the BS (and it got worse), later on when I learned about spinning plates it all clicked for me.

TL;DR:I'd definitely say spinning plates is for whenever you're not in an LTR or a marriage, it's always better than not spinning plates, no exceptions imo.

 

[Infern0]

Pragmatic.

It is good to always have at least one on the go but to be honest its time consuming. I think taking a break from the game is beneficial at times, if you have a FWB then sometimes thats all you need.

Sometimes i like to do other things like training for sporting events etc. During those times the game takes a backburner because i need all my energy and focus

 

[Roober]

If your in a committed LTR, you shouldn't be spinning plates. To me, it is just dishonest, and I don't like dishonest people.

If you are single, spinning plates keeps things exciting and lets your filter women. Spinning plates allows you to have options, but also drop them whenever you want

I went to therapy a year ago shorttly after my divorce, and I remember the therapist told me to "be careful. being single is alluring and fun, and can be pandora's box" Once you get in, you don't get out. And I don't even think she was referrring to spinning plates.

 

[bigneil]

A successful seducer always pursues more than one woman.

Women are simply too unpredictable and they make permanent decisions much too quickly that can change your relationship overnight. Therefore, a man must try to have a backup. Every time you take your woman out, she knows instinctively which women like you and would date you and which pity her. She wants a man who other women want, so you must continue to be just that.

That said, once you fall in love with a woman, no other woman can compare and AFAIK you can't be madly in love with more than one woman at a time. Neither can she, so don't worry about her plates, simply focus on making her fall in love.

I went to therapy a year ago shortly after my divorce, and I remember the therapist told me to "be careful. being single is alluring and fun, and can be pandora's box" Once you get in, you don't get out. And I don't even think she was referring to spinning plates.

This is case and point why you never want to have only one woman. Look what happens, good men end up in therapy, but continue to tell themselves marriage was actually better than being single.

 

[AttackFormation]

Neil can be a little wacky, but hes got his gems of truth every so often: women want a man other women want. Id like to add my own, which is that women as good as always have other men in the picture one way or another and that women are turned on by emotional unavailability & off by availability.

If you dont keep your options open, youre playing by rules she doesnt follow, and making it more likely she will lose respect for you as well.

 

[El Payaso]

A successful seducer always pursues more than one woman.

Women are simply too unpredictable and they make permanent decisions much too quickly that can change your relationship overnight. Therefore, a man must try to have a backup. Every time you take your woman out, she knows instinctively which women like you and would date you and which pity her. She wants a man who other women want, so you must continue to be just that.

That said, once you fall in love with a woman, no other woman can compare and AFAIK you can't be madly in love with more than one woman at a time. Neither can she, so don't worry about her plates, simply focus on making her fall in love.


This is case and point why you never want to have only one woman. Look what happens, good men end up in therapy, but continue to tell themselves marriage was actually better than being single.

Agree with everything except "focusing on making her fall in love".

 

[AlphaNate]

Spin 'em all. Doesn't mean you have to **** 'em all.

Keep in mind that it's easy to become content in a LTR. That's dangerous ground, and your woman will try to mold you to what she thinks she wants. If she succeeds, you'll no longer be what she actually wants.

 

[Urbanyst]

Pragmatic.

I like to have abundance when I can. But if I go too far out of my way to have abundance, it becomes a crutch. The main thing is to not be desperate not matter what your relationship situation is.

 

[bigneil]

Women are turned on by emotional unavailability & off by availability.

I'm finding that when it's mutual and interest is 95%, both people care about the other more when they learn how much that person loves them, not less. It's people you aren't crazy about who, when they confess their love, seem less attractive.

That said, you can tell her you love her in the bedroom and occasionally in person (if she is saying it), but when it comes to texting, once you are in the "I love you" stage, let her do 100% of the initiating per day. My girl has texted the last 12 days and I have not texted any for weeks, though when she texts I always reply with something that cheers her up, like a photo of her, a romantic note, or our next date plans.

 

[skinnyguy]

Necessary.

These days there are more and more female DJs. I know a girl who's 23 years old and fvcked over 100 men. She brings them home from the gym, bangs them, then moves on to the next guy.

More and more females these days don't want commitment they just wanna party and fvck. The Instagram generation gives them access to hundreds of guys without moving a muscle.

Waiting for the right girl can be good. But I'm 35 and I'm starting to realize it won't happen. I want to meet a nice woman but most girls these days are wh0res. Women have secks way more than men do.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Necessary.

These days there are more and more female DJs. I know a girl who's 23 years old and fvcked over 100 men. She brings them home from the gym, bangs them, then moves on to the next guy.

More and more females these days don't want commitment they just wanna party and fvck. The Instagram generation gives them access to hundreds of guys without moving a muscle.

Waiting for the right girl can be good. But I'm 35 and I'm starting to realize it won't happen. I want to meet a nice woman but most girls these days are wh0res. Women have secks way more than men do.

So someone doing that pattern of always looking for the "new" and "different" isn't usually going to change their ways for you? Huh, nor would you want them too... It's a sickness in my opinion but a way of life for many.

 

[devilkingx2]

But if I go too far out of my way to have abundance, it becomes a crutch.

what do you mean by this?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Don't spin plates in a LTR. She's earned loyalty if she is good enough to be the girlfriend.

 

[Trump]

How about being married and spinning plates?

The whole point of "spinning plates" is to counteract a woman's emotional manipulation and control. If a woman sees another women is on your side, she can't emotionally manipulate as well since she'll know you will just move on. But if she thinks you have no one, are in love with her, will do anything for her, are happy just to have a wife and won't leave her, what benefit does she get treating you well?

This does not mean don't get married. If you want settle down with a nice women and have kids and a family, go for it! Just be careful, essentially you are signing a contract telling society you are one legal and social institution, everything you do from now on is considered "one." You are also signing that she can emotionally abuse you and you need to pay her for her to stop. But again, a lot of men are marrying and having kids and living longer and proud to be fathers.

Remember, we are living in the Western World where women's life are much more important than men. As a result, women have realized they can get what they need from men (money, kids, image, status) without giving much in return. Then when the man has NO MORE USE, he is gone. How do men counteract this manipulative agenda by women? By spinning plates!

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Remember, we are living in the Western World where women's life are much more important than men. As a result, women have realized they can get what they need from men (money, kids, image, status) without giving much in return. Then when the man has NO MORE USE, he is gone. How do men counteract this manipulative agenda by women? By spinning plates!

All you are doing here is spinning a 'meta-narrative'. How do men counteract the prevailing trend? By finding a sensible woman who can think for herself.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Remember, we are living in the Western World where women's life are much more important than men. As a result, women have realized they can get what they need from men (money, kids, image, status) without giving much in return. Then when the man has NO MORE USE, he is gone. How do men counteract this manipulative agenda by women? By spinning plates!

It takes perfect game (95% interest level), an A+ lawyer, a firearm, a restraining order, and a strong prenuptial agreement.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The whole point of "spinning plates" is to counteract a woman's emotional manipulation and control. If a woman sees another women is on your side, she can't emotionally manipulate as well since she'll know you will just move on. But if she thinks you have no one, are in love with her, will do anything for her, are happy just to have a wife and won't leave her, what benefit does she get treating you well?

Spinning plates isn't the end all be all. We recommend spinning plates because it allows a man who is not fully versed in their inner game to mask it by having other options. It takes more inner game to survive and outlast all the tests your woman will throw at you. One must develop an awareness and understanding of every test.

The subtle error in your post is highlighted. One can be devoted to his significant other while still having the cajones to leave her. The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Trump]

All you are doing here is spinning a 'meta-narrative'. How do men counteract the prevailing trend? By finding a sensible woman who can think for herself.

I see the point. Yet it doesn't mean a sensible woman will be rational in the midst of a fight or divorce.

 

[Trump]

The subtle error in your post is highlighted. One can be devoted to his significant other while still having the cajones to leave her. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Agreed.

 

[devilkingx2]

since everyone agrees on spinning plates (or almost everyone) maybe the question should've been how many plates to spin lol