"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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POF woman, should i make her work harder to get me now?

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a couple weeks ago before xmas i was msging a pof woman 42. divorcee with kids. lawyer, used to live in my area but now lives in a strange part of town but i think because of her ethnic background it makes sense why she lives there as the community is based there. her profile is the usual wine and dine and she spends lots of money on herself expensive clothes blah blah. so i follow naughtyninjas method, didn't get the number after 3 msgs, but after about 5-6. she was visiting family up north and wasn't due back till a few days ago. so i contacted her on Sun sending her my number by text and a little witty joke about it being boring up north. (no reply but i didnt put a question in the text anyway) i also left a general msg on pof same day asking if she bought anything in the boxing day sales making a joke about it negging her a bit (no response). i was just tryna get the ball rolling again

next day i noticed she has hidden her image on pof. i haven't contacted her since. today around 5pm (she prob finished work) she texts me: Hiya how are you? I came back down last week and now back at work and feel like i've never been away! x

basically an attention seeking type text lookign for validation, i can see the signs. me thinks that the guy she wants on pof hasn't been so forthcoming and she needs an ego boost. i haven't actually asked her out yet which was what i was planning to do next... but given that she didn't respond to me from Sunday should i make her work for it more? i was going to send a meet up date text (which is what she expects however i think maybe i should play it cool given i know she's just fishing for an ego boost)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I would ask for a date, and if she says anything but yes, drop her and find a girl that makes it easy on you.
 

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big weezy said:
a couple weeks ago before xmas i was msging a pof woman 42. divorcee with kids. lawyer, used to live in my area but now lives in a strange part of town but i think because of her ethnic background it makes sense why she lives there as the community is based there. her profile is the usual wine and dine and she spends lots of money on herself expensive clothes blah blah. so i follow naughtyninjas method, didn't get the number after 3 msgs, but after about 5-6. she was visiting family up north and wasn't due back till a few days ago. so i contacted her on Sun sending her my number by text and a little witty joke about it being boring up north. (no reply but i didnt put a question in the text anyway) i also left a general msg on pof same day asking if she bought anything in the boxing day sales making a joke about it negging her a bit (no response). i was just tryna get the ball rolling again

next day i noticed she has hidden her image on pof. i haven't contacted her since. today around 5pm (she prob finished work) she texts me: Hiya how are you? I came back down last week and now back at work and feel like i've never been away! x

basically an attention seeking type text lookign for validation, i can see the signs. me thinks that the guy she wants on pof hasn't been so forthcoming and she needs an ego boost. i haven't actually asked her out yet which was what i was planning to do next... but given that she didn't respond to me from Sunday should i make her work for it more? i was going to send a meet up date text (which is what she expects however i think maybe i should play it cool given i know she's just fishing for an ego boost)

Once and for all. You dudes need to forget the profile fluff filler. Ignore it as if it didn't exist. Do you carry a sign on you when you meet people in person that gives a profile description? Does anyone else who isn't homeless and "Will work for food?" No of course not.

So you ignore whatever fluff nonsense they have in their profile. As if you are meeting them in person and have no idea. Reading profiles is a waste of time.

Who cares if the "other guy" didn't work out? You aren't looking for a wifey/girlfriend off a free "dating" site are you? If you ARE. Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

I'd reply back to her text saying: "Doing good! But I'm tired of getting emailed all week by these other risque types of women on POF."

And leave it at that. Plant that seed of other women "horny" for you.

She may bite and act curious. (Most of them are horny depending on how good you look.)

See what she replies...then you might reply something like: "Well I was looking to meet a hot one like you in person. I have no time for perverted women trying to corrupt me."

You have to use their own BS that they all use back at them in a "clueless" way and see how they respond. She just might "bite" in a positive way and see you as now a challenge that she needs to "win".

You have to de-code these chicks BS and flip it on them. Trust me they'll know the deal.

Like: When a chick puts in her profile: "I'm sick of all the perverts on here!" (She's really saying: I want the hot guys only to fvck my brains out!) So instead of you saying something like: "I'm looking for a good girl." You'd say something like: "Tired of all these rique types of women hitting me up." ...If these chicks think you're good looking enough in your pictures they automatically know they want to be the one to "corrupt" the dude who speaks their "language".
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
Once and for all. You dudes need to forget the profile fluff filler. Ignore it as if it didn't exist. Do you carry a sign on you when you meet people in person that gives a profile description? Does anyone else who isn't homeless and "Will work for food?" No of course not.

So you ignore whatever fluff nonsense they have in their profile. As if you are meeting them in person and have no idea. Reading profiles is a waste of time.

Who cares if the "other guy" didn't work out? You aren't looking for a wifey/girlfriend off a free "dating" site are you? If you ARE. Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

I'd reply back to her text saying: "Doing good! But I'm tired of getting emailed all week by these other risque types of women on POF."

And leave it at that. Plant that seed of other women "horny" for you.

She may bite and act curious. (Most of them are horny depending on how good you look.)

See what she replies...then you might reply something like: "Well I was looking to meet a hot one like you in person. I have no time for perverted women trying to corrupt me."

You have to use their own BS that they all use back at them in a "clueless" way and see how they respond. She just might "bite" in a positive way and see you as now a challenge that she needs to "win".
awesome naughtyninja great advice! i'll do that and report back.

is the stuff you said likely to make them put out more easily? given you're framing it as im the prize
 

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awesome naughtyninja great advice! i'll do that and report back.

is the stuff you said likely to make them put out more easily? given you're framing it as im the prize

It depends on how good you look. Period. And if you don't come off as a desperate "nice" guy. Which signals. "Oh this guy is probably going to be a stage 5 clinger if we meet. I don't want to hurt him and have to be the one to deal with that type of pressure."

You can't wait to escalate. Just don't do it in an obnoxious or "thirsty" way (vulgar). A "riding the breaks" playful sort of way guaging BOTH of your "speeds".

Try the quick going for the numbers. Then when you get them..Then set up meets and playfully mirror their own "dislikes" in a sexual coded way.

If they go with it. (They know you are on to them. And it starts turning them on.) Once you get the hang of moving quickly in a playful "understanding their language" way. Set up a meet ASAP.

Let the rest of the morons on the site bombard them with vulgar sexual messages or shoot themselves in the foot by playing the boring, "thinks he's slick to get some pvzzy" nice guy conversation routines.

Send her back the message I put in my previous post. Report back what she responds. A few quick back and forths and set up a meet ASAP. Not playing text ping pong or waiting around with your d1ck in your hand content with only the fact she's "replying" back to you.

You have to use their own language to question them in their own "way". In other terms: "You want to meet up and fvck or not?" Without saying it in a basic vulgar way.

If some chick doesn't respond to meet and you dropping hints in her language. You simply delete her number and move on.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It depends on how good you look. Period. And if you don't come off as a desperate "nice" guy. Which signals. "Oh this guy is probably going to be a stage 5 clinger if we meet. I don't want to hurt him and have to be the one to deal with that type of pressure."

You can't wait to escalate. Just don't do it in an obnoxious or "thirsty" way (vulgar). A "riding the breaks" playful sort of way guaging BOTH of your "speeds".

Try the quick going for the numbers. Then when you get them..Then set up meets and playfully mirror their own "dislikes" in a sexual coded way.

If they go with it. (They know you are on to them. And it starts turning them on.) Once you get the hang of moving quickly in a playful "understanding their language" way. Set up a meet ASAP.

Let the rest of the morons on the site bombard them with vulgar sexual messages or shoot themselves in the foot by playing the boring, "thinks he's slick to get some pvzzy" nice guy conversation routines.

Send her back the message I put in my previous post. Report back what she responds. A few quick back and forths and set up a meet ASAP. Not playing text ping pong or waiting around with your d1ck in your hand content with only the fact she's "replying" back to you.

You have to use their own language to question them in their own "way". In other terms: "You want to meet up and fvck or not?" Without saying it in a basic vulgar way.

If some chick doesn't respond to meet and you dropping hints in her language. You simply delete her number and move on.

i dont understand what you mean by mirroring their own 'dislikes'?

tbh i didnt really understand your entire post.. sorry :) it sounded like advance level pua code.. haha could you say it in more simpler terms please?
 

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thanks for the msg naughty ninja

she hasn't taken the bait.. no reply yet. if i dont get a reply from her (i sent the first message you suggested) should i just contact her in a couple days for a meet up/date instead?
 

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thanks for the msg naughty ninja

she hasn't taken the bait.. no reply yet. if i dont get a reply from her (i sent the first message you suggested) should i just contact her in a couple days for a meet up/date instead?

Wait a few days. but to be honest take everything and anyone on there with a grain of salt. She could be busy or she could be dating someone not interested who knows. Just give it a few days and contact her but keep sending messages to new chicks. A lot of the chicks on there are flakes and have issues. Even if you meet them and "think" they're cool they are all screwed up some way that may not show right away...Anyway, You can try this new opener I thought up and see if it works better.

Can we please just skip our first meet and just go straight to the wedding chapel? (your real first name) =)

Other than that try to meet more people in real life. POF should only be used as a side option. If you are completely relying on it....Nuff said.
 

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awesome naughtyninja great advice! i'll do that and report back.

is the stuff you said likely to make them put out more easily? given you're framing it as im the prize

Best pof advice I can give anyone is have the mindset that they ALL wanna put out. Why would they be online dating if they werent horny and to some degree desperate and NEEDING dyck? There's 2 variables that determine WHEN ( not IF) a pof girl will put out...1) how hot and normal you represent yourself to be (mostly just how hot), and 2) how slvtty the chick is

Once i get the girls number I push the limits, knowing theres a gaggle of wh0res waiting on pof if this one doesnt workout. Go against your normal male intuition and realize that YOU hve tons of options now and YOU can make the rules and if they don't follow them and give you what you need you can move on to the next one. Being bold and blunt, with some charm an sophistication I'll find a way to turn things sexual almost immediately and gauge the chicks sluttiness from there. I got to the point where I wouldnt hve to wait til after the first date to find out how fast this chick was gonna put out. I'd find out immediately through text and either she would be DTF or else I'd move on.

From being so bold I learned they all wanna fvck. Some will send nudes immediately and be readyto fvck right away before even going on a date, some need to be taken on a date so they don't feel too slvtty, and some need to be taken on a couple dates. They ALL want it though, and want it NOW. The hick the op is talking to wants to be taken to pound town tonight I guarantee, but it's possible she needs to be taken out on a date to not feel like a complete slvt

What I'm trying to say is, the only thing any of us can tellnyou for certain is that this chick is dying to be fvcked but it's up to YOU to find out how long it will take to get there. You can be like me and seek our that answer right now and risk scaring her away, or you can sit back and play things cool and get to the first dat and find out from there how much work it's gonna take.

If a chick off pof made me wait more than 1 date I never talked to them again. Not worth the time and effort when teres so many options, but that was just my personal way of doing things
 

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big weezy said:
i dont understand what you mean by mirroring their own 'dislikes'?

tbh i didnt really understand your entire post.. sorry :) it sounded like advance level pua code.. haha could you say it in more simpler terms please?

No advanced level "pua" nonsense. It's just picking up on the BS coded words they use. Like you see in her profile or a reply from her: "I like to have fun" Fun = Getting fvcked. So I'd mirror that word back at her during conversation.

Say she asks. "So what are you here for?" The "nice guy" would throw BS at her like: "I'm looking to find a serious relationship and someone who I can talk too." = TURNOFF.

She asks you or I "So what are you here for?" Reply: "I'm just here to meet people and have fun/a good time and see how things go. You?"

She then understands you aren't running some lame "nice guy" who's possibly a stage 5 clinger who would run a guilt trip or put pressure on her should you meet for another date or relationship. You aren't coming across as a pervert. But mirroring the word "fun" in your reply back to her. They know exactly what "fun" means and know you know her coded words by your reply. You aren't coming across like some "nice guy" nor "pervert" but you are letting her know you aren't afraid to go for what you want without spewing some pathetic BS at her.

As for the "dislikes" chicks who put:
"I'm sick of the perverts!" "Tired of being used!" "No I don't want to fvck you!" as their profile headlines. They all want to be fvcked. Which is why they are on POF. It depends on how good the dude looks and how smooth in replying back he is while not coming across too vulgar at first.

Like you'd reply to those chicks something like: Hey you! How's the site been treating you so far? I know what you mean. I'm tired of having several risque women writing me..(Your real first name)

If they like the way you look. You in a "nice" way responded to them straight off "agreeing" with them but also letting them know it could be the both of you together "tired of all the sex emails" and meeting up to fvck each other.

Once you start noticing certain buzz words they use. You start figuring out how to reply to them. Once they start biting you go for their number within a few messages then escalate once you've texted them asking them for a pic of them to have for your phones "picture caller id".

You may be surprised with what they send you. If so. Then escalate and set up a meet ASAP.

you have to learn how to feel them out and when you can start escalating or pumping the breaks to not freak them out before you meet.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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