"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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PackDaddy

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Hi guys, I want to get a thread started that lays out some general/specific rules for POF. I just recently created one and am having good results so far. I guess the real question is, can you guys give me any game pointers from experience?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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HedoRick

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Well the old NaughtyNinja copy/pastas and profile used to work in my area. After going through the last set of numbers and women, it seems like these tactics are more or less useless now. No matter what I say, the transition past the opener has been impossible. This coming from a tall, good looking white guy. It could be that some guys were posing as women and took the emails and oversaturated all the women in the area.. that's just a theory though.

I am now trying to use a more "genuine" approach, and I will compare that to other methods and report back. The site has certainly gotten much more competitive lately.

In real life is definitely the way to go for meeting chicks:rockon:
 

zinc4

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yeah, oline dating is tough competition and you can't make a personal impression not to mention i look a lot better in person than in my pics...IMO real life is much easier than online and more satisfying at that...
 

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POF is a great place to try crazy material and see what responses you get in return.
One thing that irritates me is women that have photos up of their female friends, hugging them and whatnot. Then state they aint after a relationship just someone to hangout with. Number 1; hangout with the friend you have and number 2; i'll give any woman a good time but dont just expect me to entertain you like a dancing monkey.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It amuses me at the number of women on that site who select No Committment/Nothing Serious as their relationship intent, and then openly state/elude to in their profile how they want a serious relationship and no FWB/hook ups. Some will even list the desired age range and being open to guys 10 years younger than them. Like those young guys really want something serious with some chick ten years older. Lol. Are these chicks just in denial or what? Then they ***** and whine about all they ever get for response is guys looking for sex. But a nice normal reasonably attractive guy contacts them with a sincere response and just gets ignored. I'm about convinced that online dating just doesn't work anymore for the average/above average guy. Gotta be Brad Pitt with a six figure income and no kids to get their attention. I've done online dating off and on for years and had better luck before 2010 and even found two LTR's, one that lasted 7 years and the other 5 years. The 90's and early 2000's were great for it. But since then, I don't know, something has changed and the payback isn't worth the time invested.
 

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I am not saying that it doesn't necessarily work in my case. It does work, but seems to have gotten exponentially harder. Could be that summer is slow in my area because I (was) killing it not too long ago...

But... I am starting to look at it from a cost/benefit point of view. Why should I invest in something that is more difficult, for the outcome(low quality, damaged women).

I had no issue when the copy/pastas worked. It was minimal work just to get laid. Now that doesn't seem to be the case. Times have changed(or maybe it's time for someone to think of a brilliant new copy/pasta)
 

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Copy/paste emails. Spammed out to all HB's in the area.

And I did a little experiment. I created an account far away from here. Same pics, some profiles, same emails. The problem now is the emails won't hook. Not after 4 messages. Not even after 6. It's like chicks online hardly trust anyone online enough anymore to give out their numbers. "Lots of creepers" have apparently poisoned the well.

I'm not gonna waste my time with attention hoe's that don't want to meet up. Yes, you can have some success online. But it's really not worth the effort anymore. If anyone has experienced differently recently, then i'm all ears. This is definitely a new phenomenon to me...
 
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