“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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POF -> HB8 asks me out, I decline -> Did I **** it Up? [Texts enclosed]

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Cliffs:

- Message HB8 on POF
- Get digits
- Texts back and forth, texts gets explicit (see below)
- She asks me to coffee, I decline
- Chat with her later the same night on the phone

Was she really DTF? Or a just ****tease looking for attention and validation?

I declined as I had sh*t going on, and also wanted to build some rapport on the phone before going out. Could I have smashed that night? Did I **** it up?

I've smashed a few off this site before. How to salvage this one boys...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Tuesday

hey HB8, what’s shakin. how was the rest of your weekend –spinaroonie

Not much just getting ready to Do a presentation my weekend went well. How about you?

hit up a mixer for young professionals, good times.. just got back from the gym, how was your presentation

Not too bad glad it’s over. How is your day?

did you know a blue whale’s tongue weighs as much as an elephant? gotta luv discovery channel during lunch break

No I didn’t know that. Love discovery channel though

Can you send the budget stuff & proof of debit withdrawals to the social standards email I am so ring lindsey & need concrete evidence for this actual work

And totally texted the wrong person sorry!

lol accounting.. fun

Lol I don’t know anything about it

poor girl. you’re in bio right? I work in finance so I’d better know something

Yea lol unauthorized debits are my new least fave things

k quit boring me dilbert :p

Who is that

read comics? (pic of Dilbert)

Not really lol

boo you suck :p so what do you do for fun HB8, besides discovery channel

Nothing DNA extraction is my life. I am watching black swan right now

Nice, I’ll you to it. txt me later

Black swan is surprisingly pretty decent

lol one of my friends is a ballerina.. like 90lbs. totally afraid of her now

Oh wow so tiny

saw the shining for the first time. love Jack Nicholson

I have never seen it but he is a good actor
 

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Wednesday

So I am in this class and I just realized that we have only done 2 chapters all term

sweet what class I want to enroll

Lol its excellent if he didn’t spend 20 min going over stuff from last lecture every day it would be fine. What are you doing today

figuring out ways to screw over our clients to pad our profits, you?

What are some ways you could screw them? Playing who would you rather in DNA tech.

lol you’re always going about DNA.. know anything about segregated funds?

Its kinda my life until Friday. Nope but can you enlighten me

seg funds are like mutual funds, your payout is determined by how well your funds perform in the market. Except if there’s a crash you’re guaranteed a minimum amount.. sounds like a great deal right?

the catch is our clients really have no clue just how much we skim off in management fees

btw this stays just between me and you

So it’s like stealing?

Mkay. Its not like there is anyone I can tell

good girl :D

Peder (green shirt 2nd row) or curly blonde hair

Lol I don’t want to get you in trouble. Opps I sent my would you rathe text to you nko wonder my partner hasn’t answered

Ya you gotta stop doing that or I’m putting you on ignore

I know I am the worst person for it. Buttt you & chris texted me at the same time so it’s less of my fault this time.

What are you having for lunch?

chicken pasta with garden blend.. you

Sounds good. I don’t get lunch on Wednesdays. But I want pad Thai for supper

so I learned a new fun fact over lunch. not sure if you can handle it..

More discovery channel? Tell me!!

ez there tiger. did you know a pig’s orgasm lasts half an hour?!?

I did actually.

aww smartypants

I am not denying it. A question on a quid I had today was “what eats ants”

my 3 yr old cousin

Good answer

What are your plans this evening?

chilling. how’s the pad Thai

Didn’t happen. @ the gym

mmm work that booty

Duh it annoys my gym partner that I text&cardio

agree with her focus on your workout. txt me back when you get home Ms. DNA

I was good and didn’t text anyone

lol you seem so proud of yourself.. *applause*

Lol it is a rarity I believe in multitasking

ya I drove into the office and saw a girl driving, texting, drinking coffee and putting on her makeup all at the same time.. hmm maybe it was you

Def not I am not that skilled

haha so whats your greatest talent, besides dissecting labrats

hmmm I am a pretty awesome rower what abiut you

hmm finance, impersonations, sex, writing, being witty.. not necessarily in that order

also very humble

I am good at all of those except the first two.

So humble

lol I sense a cheeky side to you. smart but a little sassy.. I dig it

Lol you say cheeky mom says snarky

it’s all the same. I like a girl who can do a little verbal sparring, makes her interesting. don’t come across many who can..

Seriously I know a lot of girls that put me to shame

don’t go overboard and try be a female woody allen.. that would be a boner killer

I am def not. And certainly not a boner killer

*applauds* .. my lil guy just gave you a standing ovation in approval

Lovely

snarky

I know mom

anytime munchkin

I’m not that young

22?

Younger

whoa

Really

I’m impressed

Why

you seem mature and carry yourself well.. thinking back to the ditzy tarts I dated at 20. you’re impressive

now don’t prove me wrong

Thanks. I am 20 btw. You seem decent for someone with a real job

lol it’s a professional career.. and yes most guys your age are still jazzing their pants over a little whiff of cleavage. I sympathize

You should do you know how hard it is to have sex if they have already finished and your not even undressed.

no then it’s your fault for being too sexy

There is no such thing as too sexy

sex is overrated

Yea but it’s fun most of the time

we’re on the same page there. don’t like starfishes

There is no point if you aren’t going to do anything

indeed. and you are clever

Not really I’m just honest

size matter?

only for shoes

good answer. it’s not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean

Very true. Well too big is sometimes an issue

hmmm

Hmmm

mine is very dark

So?

some girls are pleasantly surprised. to sample something exotic

It’s always nice to switch it up

I like the adventurous type

Most do. Almost everything matters more than skin colour

indeed, variety is the splice of life. sample the rainbow

That’s what skittles are for

lol cute. so are you sweet and chewy like candy

How can you be sure? You have never tried

is it worth it

I would say so

Hmm now you’re making me succumb to temptation and lust..

That easily?

lets say little richard is becoming mr.big

you’ve disappeared

I love sex & the city

My friend called

ya my ex too. you’re like Carrie with a bit of Samantha

Hmm the online quiz said I’m a Charlotte

online quiz? you’re adorkableness is oddly endearing

gonna crash. Hit me up tmrw
 

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Thursday

Good morning :) fun fact of the day: describe means use words

lame. Leave the fun facts to me missy

I will come up with a better one later

Like wild yeast spoils wine

much better. how’s your day going, keeping out of trouble

It went well I am part of a super stealth plan atm so much drama?!

brb tuning into “the young and the hopeless” the all-new soap opera starring HB8 DNA as the drama queen

Well I was going to fill you in but if you are goig to make fun of me no dice lol

do elaborate

But seriously though can I call you and tell you so I have an unbiased opinion

tied up now call me later around 11

I will probably be drunk but remind me to tell you!!

even better then, you’ve got me tingling in suspense

Perfect right where I want you

that’s what she said

I am a she & I did say it

smartypants

You know you love it

Also can I tell you know

hitting the pubs with some friends.. it’ll have to wait sweetheart

Where are you headed?

uptown

Our atm is (redacted) but I don’t like it there

lol i’ll pray for your eardrums

Dont smile at me I hate you! My new favorite line!

Oh my the singers are worse than usual

My ears are bleeding

I warned ya

I know.

*spank* that’s for being bad

Real ones are so much better

you like it rough

Sometimes

What do you like

her soft feminine essence, her loving gaze, her tender touch, her moans of ecstacy

That is very poetic
 

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Friday

Why did the fungus and alga go on a date?

they took a liken to each other

Smarty pants

takes one to know one! so have your ears recovered yetT

No. I dint know what to eatt

And the drama i am supposed to be fixing is getting worse I might have an aneurism lol

lol so you’re the shoulder to cry on when your girlies find out their bf is sleeping with their best friend

Not really it’s hard to explain

Edamame delicious

i want some

I have a huge box

have it delivered to my office. personally. in heels.

I might just then I could tell you my drama

lol what am I Dr.Phil

Lol it’s no drama like that it is borderline ridiculous you will just laugh

lol stop it. you’re too cute

I know right

an adorkable oversexed munchkin who keeps me entertained in the corporate world with the mundane trivialities of her life

I am definitely not oversexed and I do edamame deliveries in my spare time but other than that you are spot on

funny lass, you’re growing on me…

Like a slime mold. Don’t worry it happens to everyone.

lol again with the nerdy bio humour. i know you love ecology but fyi my expertise is in anatomy

Well technically my specialty is micro/cell/molecular bio but anatomy is by far the most interesting

indeed. so much to learn. the best studying is done at night. with the lights out

so true. Although it makes identification quite difficult

I have heels on

what else

Pink tights a dress my watch

No make up

you left out the granny panties

Actually I’m wearing bikini style today

mmm with pink polkda dots

Blue with white hearts lacey fabric in case you were wondering

you read my mind

It’s a skill

sexy

I need Starbucks what time are you done work

an hour ago

You should come with me

Nah got some stuff going on right now

Boo

you’ll get over it cutiepie

Starbucks sucks alone

I’m there in spirit. like Patrick Swayze in Ghost

I’m too young for that movie.

got an iPhone?

I do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4Z_Hs5wl4

Thats cute

Are you still going to be doing stuff later?

depends. what’s on your plate

Lab reports

after

I will be doing these well into Sunday lol but no other plans. You?

lucky you

That’s one way to look at it

got pretty smashed last night, gonna take it easy and chill in my pad tonight

Sounds nice, all alone?

ya I’ve got my own place

Must be nice but lonely

Nah I always have company..

Scandalous

trust me you’ll appreciate the privacy

I do miss privacy but I would rather not be alone

and there are certain intimate acts best appreciated without the intrusion of roommates

So true

Roommates can always be counted on to ruin the moment

lol just ask my (redacted) buddies about my grunting

Maybe I will

maybe you won’t need to

Hopefully I can just find out myself

you read my mind.. again

Get used to it

this bond we share is uncanny

I like the word uncanny

so what’s canny then?

Soup?

delicious

Yes I love chocolate too

Just got off the phone with my advisor she talks so long

And I’m pretty sure my roommate just got engaged puke in my mouth

Most romantic thing I have ever heard

“baby, that was a really quick flush did you wipe?”

lovely

Roommates are love. Without them I would never have found my favorite expression of love

lol so my friend just broke it off with his girl. I was consoling him

Aww the one you were telling me about?

not Chris. Another dude, friend from (redacted)

Take him to roxannes

he’s in (redacted), maybe next wk

and you sure know how to charm a fella

With roxannes?

lol no the guttural one prior

Aw gotcha how is your cozy night at home?

just dandy, haven’t had a Friday night to myself in a while

They are always nice with a good book a warm blanket

don’t forget the hot cocoa

and by that I mean me

I will have to add that in next time

too cute munchkin. so when are you heading to bed tonight

I’m in bed now

really. well I want to hear your voice before we both call it a night

Well you can I’m just reading a little bit

in a bit

Mkay
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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WTF is all this texting. I did not even read all of them. Just pick up the phone and ask for a data. If she says yes, then you know you did not f**k up.
 

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"also wanted to build some rapport on the phone before going out." Umm, mission accomplished. You texted her a life's worth of texts.

Yes, you did screw up not seeing her after all that.

You only get one shot at 'new.' And your texting is becoming old before even the first date.
 

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ecko280 said:
WTF is all this texting. I did not even read all of them. Just pick up the phone and ask for a data. If she says yes, then you know you did not f**k up.
lol I read most of it, especially liked this part

you seem mature and carry yourself well.. thinking back to the ditzy tarts I dated at 20. you’re impressive

now don’t prove me wrong

Thanks. I am 20 btw. You seem decent for someone with a real job

lol it’s a professional career.. and yes most guys your age are still jazzing their pants over a little whiff of cleavage. I sympathize

You should do you know how hard it is to have sex if they have already finished and your not even undressed.
I can relate. I last a Long time. I'm way over, "Wow, you have t!ts!!" I mean, come on, it's just t!ts. Focus your mind on pleasuring her, then you don't have to worry about losing your load..on/in an hb.
 

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I agree WAAAAAYYYY TOO MUCH text!!!

What do we always say here: DON'T JUDGE A GIRL BY HER WORDS, INSTEAD WATCH HER ACTIONS!"

Well this broad was all about backing up her text-athon with actions and every time she tries to get closer, this SPIN acts like he's too busy.

Look bro, this chick definitely digs you and it seems like you have some issues with needed to follow a script when your playing the game. It doesn't work that way always....

With all that said, she's still on the line and definitely has interest in you and the sexual tension is building so I know where you were coming from with wanting to play the waiting game. But another golden rule you will see here is "STRIKE WHILE THE IRON'S HOT!"

What's done is done, meet up with her next week and take care of this situation.






PIMP
 

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Johnnyventana said:
"also wanted to build some rapport on the phone before going out." Umm, mission accomplished. You texted her a life's worth of texts.

Yes, you did screw up not seeing her after all that.

You only get one shot at 'new.' And your texting is becoming old before even the first date.
It's building rapport with a girl you've never met before, dude. It's to get the gina tingling.

She's initiating the texts. She ends up asking ME out.

The concern is whether this is typical attention-seeking-validation-****teasing behaviour, or genuine interest.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Pimp-sicle said:
I agree WAAAAAYYYY TOO MUCH text!!!

What do we always say here: DON'T JUDGE A GIRL BY HER WORDS, INSTEAD WATCH HER ACTIONS!"

Well this broad was all about backing up her text-athon with actions and every time she tries to get closer, this SPIN acts like he's too busy.

Look bro, this chick definitely digs you and it seems like you have some issues with needed to follow a script when your playing the game. It doesn't work that way always....

With all that said, she's still on the line and definitely has interest in you and the sexual tension is building so I know where you were coming from with wanting to play the waiting game. But another golden rule you will see here is "STRIKE WHILE THE IRON'S HOT!"

What's done is done, meet up with her next week and take care of this situation.


PIMP

I've smashed bishes off POF but it's never the gone down like this. The overt sex talk intiated by her, her asking me out for coffee - it's throwing a monkey wrench in my program from number to meet to lay. I want to smash but I*don't want her dictating the frame either.

It's about striking a fine balance between appearing sufficiently aloof and coy and not a desperate creep salivating at the mention of sex.

Either my game is that tight or she's really hurting for d*ck, but she's asking ME out - a random from a dating site. (The phagotts here who can't get a date and diss text game can take notes.)

And I've seen her pics, she's fit.

Whether this is genuine interest or silly attention-validation-seeking behaviour is the question. I've at least tried to tone down the sex talk and tried to get to get to know her as a person. If all she really just wants is sex that's cool, if she's just a bored attention-starved bish looking for an ego-boost I don't want to waste my time.
 

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Texts

The love birds are having sex in the shower

somebodys jealous. did you have haterade with your cornflakes

No I have vector and fortified soy beverage and I would like to use the bathroom they are still in there

(sends me pic of skimpy nightgown from catalogue)*Yea or no?

it's all about what's underneath

My butterfly underwear

show me

If you lucky


Again... her initiating the overt sex talk. What to make of it?
 

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spinaroonie said:
Either my game is that tight or she's really hurting for d*ck, but she's asking ME out - a random from a dating site. (The phagotts here who can't get a date and diss text game can take notes.)
The "phagotts" who diss text game have better sh*t to do with their lives than holding a little piece of plastic punching out cutesy little messages from women we meet on the f*cking internet.

Us "phagotts" get out of the house, put our BALLS on the line and approach women, instead of following a robotic script from the comfort of our homes and then freeze up when things don't go how we expect.

Us "phagotts" just f*cking CALL HER UP, meet her for coffee, invite her over, and F*CK her, while you're still pushing tiny plastic buttons on an overpriced piece of plastic, thinking you're hot **** because someone with tits is writing you suggestive messages.

The only notes we're taking is what NOT to do:

1. Excessive texting; wait, ANY TEXTING
2. Pussing out of a meeting
3. "Internet game"
 

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spinaroonie said:
I've smashed bishes off POF but it's never the gone down like this. The overt sex talk intiated by her, her asking me out for coffee - it's throwing a monkey wrench in my program from number to meet to lay. I want to smash but I*don't want her dictating the frame either.

Dude this is the stuff you need to get out of your head.....again your too concerned with following a script. And if your only goal here is to lay her then who gives a $^** if she asked you out.... But if you like her and want something more than that's different.

It's about striking a fine balance between appearing sufficiently aloof and coy and not a desperate creep salivating at the mention of sex.

Again your taking it too extreme here. I think its evident to her by the texts that you are not desperate. Being desperate is also more of a "vibe" the girl gets from interacting with you, no where in that marathon did I see any desperate tones from either of you.... Again I get the ploy here, but your too concerned with following a script rather than reading the situation....

Either my game is that tight or she's really hurting for d*ck, but she's asking ME out - a random from a dating site. (The phagotts here who can't get a date and diss text game can take notes.)

Your text game is solid, but your game isn't tight....yet! If it was you would know exactly how to qualify an interested buyer from a yapper. The fact that you have made this thread and passed up a golden opportunity for an easy lay is evidence of that in itself.

And I've seen her pics, she's fit.

Whether this is genuine interest or silly attention-validation-seeking behaviour is the question.

Lesson of the day: All girls are attention-w-h-o-r-e-s to a degree. Too many guys label girls as AW's on this board. Well guess what? AW's have sex too! AW's get horny too! You should be more concerned with whether you are gonna hit that, rather than if she's an AW or not. Your mind is over-analyzing a simple situation. Bottom line, you can try and ask her out on your terms if that makes you feel better, but she was already willing to meet, she initiated which indicates EXTREMELY HIGH INTEREST!


I've at least tried to tone down the sex talk and tried to get to get to know her as a person. If all she really just wants is sex that's cool, if she's just a bored attention-starved bish looking for an ego-boost I don't want to waste my time.

I don't hate text, I just think you shouldn't over do it like you have in this situation. Secondly you can't really get to "know someone" over text compared to in person or even over the phone. Goes back to basic social biology. Again your over-analyzing due to lack of inner game (complete self confidence). I'm not saying that to hate, because I was there at one point too. You can have tight game and still be insecure.....

Just buck up, set up a date and take care of business....its really that simple







PIMP
 

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Way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way too much texting.

Fact is, you don't have a fvckin' clue whether a girl is DTF until you meet up with her.

How cute your texts are means j!ck sh!t in the grand scheme of things unless you meet up in person and smash her.

Chances are, this chick is now thinking to herself (if only subconsciously), why the fvck isn't this guy asking me out? Is he a pvssy?


Arrange a meet up in person
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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"It's building rapport with a girl you've never met before, dude. It's to get the gina tingling."

It's not rapport. There is no context. She doesn't know you. It's fake. Text and get the date, not write a novel. Once she has met you in person, your (brief) texts will be meaningful. She doesn't know you from jack now.

You seem determined not to see her in person. Huh.
 

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Vice said:
The "phagotts" who diss text game have better sh*t to do with their lives than holding a little piece of plastic punching out cutesy little messages from women we meet on the f*cking internet.

Us "phagotts" get out of the house, put our BALLS on the line and approach women, instead of following a robotic script from the comfort of our homes and then freeze up when things don't go how we expect.

Us "phagotts" just f*cking CALL HER UP, meet her for coffee, invite her over, and F*CK her, while you're still pushing tiny plastic buttons on an overpriced piece of plastic, thinking you're hot **** because someone with tits is writing you suggestive messages.

The only notes we're taking is what NOT to do:

1. Excessive texting; wait, ANY TEXTING
2. Pussing out of a meeting
3. "Internet game"


Lol, he's mad. ^
 

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HOLY SH*T!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST CUT A HOLE IN THE CELL PHONE & F*CK IT??

What is this a joke???

Advice .... Girls get bored with boys that can't make men's moves!
I have never gotten laid or even a date with just texting...

Order:
1. CALL A GIRL
2. BUILD COMFORT
3. TELL HER WHEN YOU'RE SEEING EACHOTHER
4. SEE HER, F*CK HER OR GET AS FAR AS POSSIBLE
5. REPEAT STEP 3 UNTIL YOU F*CK HER
6. MAYBE TEXT HER....MAYBE! IF SHE DESERVES IT

GET BALLS MAN

This pisses me off...what a waste!

well if you do succeed then this girl is either desperate or retarded!
 

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So she left my crib this morning smiling and satisfied. Appreciate the advice, bros.
 

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Personally I'd say meet up and find out?

Seriously, convo seems cool, so I don't think there's any magic thing you can text her that will make her (more attracted). In my experience, thorough rapport at first is good, but then you have to FOLLOW UP. You've gained trust, shown that you're interesting and witty, now you must show you're a man.

If you continue doing the rapport thing for too long she'll lose that interest i feel. As for your worries about whether she's genuine: you'll find out. If you don't meet, you'll wonder forever.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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