“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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POF Frustration...SCHOOL ME!

tomwesten27

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I need advice from people that use POF, or know a lot about it please!

Made a POF account. Followed the instructions from this site to a T. Put up my best photos. Me in shape shirtless at the beach, out with friends around town, in a suit at work etc. Made a simple outgoing fun profile, put a lot of interests, and a funny tag line to catch the eye. So I look like a great catch right? Okay so then...

I have been on POF for about 3 weeks. I pick out funny things from the girls profiles and make a joke/comment on something they wrote or a photo etc and they usually respond! BUT there responses are SOOO lame. I will write this whole funny thing and they will respond with "yeah I like cars a lot lol." I hate having to FORCE a convo. Ask me a question back jeeze!

Another thing is I read these profiles on girls that claim they are so fun and outgoing and searching for love and to message them because they are so easy to talk to!!! So I send funny openers, not cheesy crap openers, I am telling you good openers but they view me (which means I passed the looks test) then they just don't respond...especially the really hot ones NEVER respond.

I get a lot of response's from 6's & 7's but someone school me on what I can do differently to get these 8's & 9's to respond!

What is up with these girls on POF? Thank you!
 

zinc4

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just keep trying...the competition is fierce..also don't try to be too witty or it will come off as try hard...can u post a link to your profile? that would help a lot....

I have a date with this chick from POF this weekend and by POF standards she is attractive IMO..my type looks wise....and my profile is hardly stellar..i just sent her a simple message saying hey does it say please take me out for a drink and dinner this weekend? referring to her headline about can u read my mind? on a side note i also sent out about 10 messages that were ignored by other members that day or responded with one or 2 words like what u describe...POF is really hit or miss and a lot of them are only on there purely for the attention:

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=34223746
 

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tomwesten27 said:
I have been on POF for about 3 weeks.
That's nothing. I've been online dating for 10 years (in Sept will be 11). You need to give it FAR more time to see any results! hahaha 3 weeks.

I pick out funny things from the girls profiles and make a joke/comment on something they wrote or a photo etc and they usually respond! BUT there responses are SOOO lame. I will write this whole funny thing and they will respond with "yeah I like cars a lot lol." I hate having to FORCE a convo. Ask me a question back jeeze!
This is actually the right attitude for you to have, so congrats. If a girl answers a question I ask and then doesn't continue the conversation, that's a red flag. It's like she's saying that she expects you to do all the work. That's an instant next. I just delete those responses.

Another thing is I read these profiles
hahah you do what? I don't read the profiles until after they've responded to my first email.

So I send funny openers, not cheesy crap openers, I am telling you good openers
Waste of f*cking time. Send random bullsh*t and don't spend more than 5 seconds looking at a chick's profile. You can send 40 first-emails a day on POF -- use all of them! Send 'em as fast as you can and then do something else. Some will respond, most won't. You don't care about the ones that don't.

These days I instantly forget women I don't f*ck. I actually sent a stock opener to a chick I went out with last year. For some reason POF said that I hadn't contacted her before. It apparently was a sh*t date because I have no memory of it. I certainly have no memory of all the chicks I've emailed, it's probably been 20,000 or more over the years.

I get a lot of response's from 6's & 7's but someone school me on what I can do differently to get these 8's & 9's to respond!
I have yet to see more than a tiny handful of 8s and 9s on the entire internet. And most of those are fake accounts put up by guys. The internet is not the place to find 8s and 9s. 8s and 9s don't have to sign up on a web site and write little summaries of themselves to get dates. The internet is for pure quantity.. that is, if you're looking to bang a half-dozen chicks by the end of the year or something. Then internet dating is for you. If you're looking for "quality" then pretty much any place is better.

Think of internet dating like fast food. You don't go to a fast food place for a quality dining experience. You go there because it's fast, easy and cheap, and you can get your fill without putting too much thought or effort in. Same with internet women.

So if you want to be "successful" with online dating, you have to look at it as a pure numbers game. Me, I greatly enjoy new p*ssy. I love new p*ssy. There's nothing I like more, I don't think, than boning a new girl for the first time. Each new p*ssy is like a mini adventure. I don't really care what that p*ssy is attached to as long as it's halfway attractive and not a complete b*tch. In short, I'm not picky. So internet dating is certainly for me. However, I'd say that's fairly rare when it comes to guys. So YMMV.
 

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theyre *** dumpstesr jus get the # and ask them out over phone then ur in. their responses are **** because their personalities are ****. its not that they have low interest, they're just stupid and personality-less
 

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zinc4 said:
just keep trying...the competition is fierce..also don't try to be too witty or it will come off as try hard...can u post a link to your profile? that would help a lot....

I have a date with this chick from POF this weekend and by POF standards she is attractive IMO..my type looks wise....and my profile is hardly stellar..i just sent her a simple message saying hey does it say please take me out for a drink and dinner this weekend? referring to her headline about can u read my mind? on a side note i also sent out about 10 messages that were ignored by other members that day or responded with one or 2 words like what u describe...POF is really hit or miss and a lot of them are only on there purely for the attention:

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=34223746

that chick is ugly but nice legs though.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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If you're going to do online dating, you have to keep it as a low yield option, especially if you're just starting out with it. I've been doing it for a few years now and I'm still tweaking how I use it.

You need a couple of really good copy + paste openers that bring you responses. They don't have to be funny, they just need to get you that necessary first response. Once you get that, you can start putting humor into it. You should also avoid using ****y/funny online because you cannot communicate body language, voice tone, and facial expressions through the keyboard.

I only have one picture up at a time. It's been said that a woman will judge you by your worst picture, and that's 100% true. Give them less options.

Also, you NEED to have your real-life game down. If you're starting off with online gaming, you need to quit and go out in the real world first. If your real-world gaming skills are 5hit, then you're going to fall flat on your face the first time you meet the girl. By having my real-life gaming skills going for me, I've maintained the interest of 100% of the women I've met online after the first meeting. That's how you measure your success of online dating - by the ones you actually meet and maintain.
 

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Keep your messages to them short and to the point. Pick the most insecure place of their body, and say "I freaking love your _______, you're awesome. Let's go out tonight together for a nice walk on the beach, just you and me. What's your number?" If a girl has ****ty hair, then you pick hair, if it's flat ass, then you say I love your ass, if it's legs, then say legs. Give attention to the most insecure part of her body, make her feel good about it.
 

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confuscioused said:
that chick is ugly but nice legs though.

Meh..it's POF dude and she has the basic look that i like with nice legs and shape...besides there aren't any beauty queens on POF. I just plan on hitting it and quitting it anyways.
 

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I have same problem, these days...on OKC as well :S Just last night, I was hard at it, and found (what I thought, to be) a pretty good match). I mention her profession, as a dog acupunctuer, how I've met a woman last year who does that for a living (or a rich husband supports her or family trust or inheritance supports her ---- we'll NEVER know enabling her to do this as a 'hobby'), and how I'm not so sure that that profession is real or legit, just trying to 'joke' with this new one, and lo and behold, she was online and immediately viewed my profile, only to NOT respond and just, idk, I guess I offended her or...but we were like 80% matched as friend as well. Of course, she had to be weird bc of that FVCKIN profession of hers :)
 
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