Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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POF date flaking

pyros

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Hello,

I met a chick on POF three days ago. We had a nice convo for an hour or so and I suggested to meet, she agreed and gave me her number.

Next day SHE texted me just saying hi and how I was doing. I replied, teased her a bit and proposed a date for the following day (today) at X time and X place, just to go to grab a drink and a sandwitch. After fitting our schedules it was set. Anyway I got the feeling that she was gonna flake, because the last part of this texting was somethink like:

me: ok, we can meet one our beforeo if that helps.
her: yes, it helps because I cant get the bus if it is too late
me: so at 19h at X place
(20mins later)
her: k


Sooooo, today at 17:50 she texted me:
her: 'hello, I apologize because I have to babysit my niece this afternoon, Im sorry :('

I just did not reply.


Any advice? thanks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Don't text her anymore. Check the recent threads on here.

I get and expect a 60% flake rate from online dating, so I ALWAYS double-book my POF dates.

If she's interested, she'll reach out. If not, she's gone. You haven't met her in real life, so to her you are just a bunch of words and texts.

Get more numbers online. I try to get 4-5 per week and then keep the girls in rotation, but I've kind of given up on the online thing because of the high flake rate. Meet girls in person and get their numbers and the flake rates will be a lot lower.
 

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Seriously get da phuck off POF, you just made a thread a week ago and now your going thru the same stuff

When was the last time you approached a woman in real life?

Please approach women IRL and spin some plates
 

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heeeey, I approach in real life too, but since Im not getting the results I'd like Im just taking a break from Game etc. Doing POF does not cost me anything, when Im bored I go online and see whats there.

Anyway, this year I got flaked by a one or two girls I met in real life as well lol. And so many guys here talking about banging girls they met on POF. I've just banged one from POF since I signed up one year ago.

Previous thread you talk about...according to some guys here I did some 'mistakes' so this time I did none, and got the same result. So as I said in that thread it is not so much about me making mistakes, but about girls with low interest that agree to give you their number, agree to go on a date when they're not that interested.

Silly *****es really. I guess Im becoming celibate or a monk or something...
 

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Your princess is in another castle. Drop her ass and spin more plates.

Women make time for men they're interested in and who they want to see. Would a girl skip a coffee date with Ryan Gosling? Hell no! If a girl makes excuses and flakes (basically avoiding your dates), she's not interested, unless she makes a counter offer. And she shows up. Words don't mean sh*t. Actions mean a whole lot.

Case closed.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Glad to see Brad Pitt's old ass has been replaced by a more current reference....although I have no idea who Ryan Gosling is......
 

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Plus she didn't counter-offer. Even if what she were saying was true, she could have followed up with "why don't we meet up on Tuesday instead?" If she didn't, it's because she has low interest.
 

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Beat me to it. Brad Pitts people in damage control mode, because he's no longer the gold standard on so sauve.
 

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advice?

forget her and keep sending messages to other girls.

if she's interested, you'll know about it. how will you know? you won't have to come here to ask. her actions will tell you. if she flakes, she's not interested. period.

be aware when you are getting emotionally involved. check yourself. accept that is what you are doing.

move on.

be self-aware. be in control.

remember. it's not the girl that's f**ing with you. it's you f***ing with yourself. stop it.
 

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hi. I havent get emotional at all, I could not care less.

It is just weird that a slut like this chick would agree to a date, give her number, show interest and then ... flake. And besides, this has happened to me twice in two weeks.

Stupid *****s.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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pyros said:
hi. I havent get emotional at all, I could not care less.

It is just weird that a slut like this chick would agree to a date, give her number, show interest and then ... flake. And besides, this has happened to me twice in two weeks.

Stupid *****s.
if you could not care less then why are you asking for advice?

it is not weird. it is the way things are. accept it.

like panning for gold. you have to expect rubbish to get to the good stuff.

keep pushing.
 

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The girls on POF aren't "rejecting" you when they flake. Especially if they haven't met you yet. A lot of these girls:

1) have poor social skills
2) are just seeking validation and have no intention of dating
3) feel intimidated when it's time to leave the house and meet you
4) are social retards

Most of the time it's Point 3. They will toy with the idea of dating, and meeting you, but they wuss out for any number of reasons. I've had POF girls who won't even take my calls, preferring to text, because they're "too shy". These are 35 year old women. Social retards. Would they "flake" on Ryan Gosling and/or Brad Pitt? Most likely, yes. Stop taking it so personally.
 

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pyros said:
Hello,

I met a chick on POF three days ago. We had a nice convo for an hour or so and I suggested to meet, she agreed and gave me her number.

Next day SHE texted me just saying hi and how I was doing. I replied, teased her a bit and proposed a date for the following day (today) at X time and X place, just to go to grab a drink and a sandwitch.
Your issue is right here. If she texts you, text back short and quick answers. To propose a date when she texts you shows you wouldn't have done anything if you didn't hear from her, lack of focus.

After fitting our schedules it was set. Anyway I got the feeling that she was gonna flake, because the last part of this texting was somethink like:

me: ok, we can meet one our beforeo if that helps.
her: yes, it helps because I cant get the bus if it is too late
me: so at 19h at X place
(20mins later)
her: k
Bro you are thinking one thing and saying another.

Would never tell a girl "if it helps."

If she offers resistance you go with it. She tested how desparate you are and you fell for it. You have to have focus.
 
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