"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Plentyoffish My Rant

Being_the_Don

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How many of you use plentyoffish? I found out about it from this site. Okay, we know to qualify women so that we don't get used and abused. So I was surfing, and came across a profile written by a woman who had a lot of demands but she didn't even post a photo. I sent her a message mentioning that guys don't need to worship women but should treat them as human beings. I also asked her that with all her demands why not post a photo of herself. Guess what? The cow blocked me. I went to check my inbox and didn't see anything. So I thought maybe it didn't go through. So I attempt to send it again but I get this message that the user blocked me. She got called on being an attention (bleep) and didn't like it. I've been doing the qualifiers with every woman I message. Most don't know what to make of it. A lot of them think I'm testing them, playing a game. A few have gotten defensive and this is the second one to block me. The first one told me off THEN blocked me. :p Before I started qualifying women I didn't have this response from women on dating sites. I'd get lots of responses but it was because they liked what I had to say. Now that I'm breaking free of the Matrix this is what happens. All the same, there are some great women who I'm talking with. Hotties who look good (and not just me saying it, they ARE hot) which again is good because a handsome guy should get responses from extremely attractive women. But no more worship. I'm done with that.

Incidentally, a few months ago I had read a thread down in the Mature Man's forum about one of the mods had posted on plentyoffish a while back. I used my own style when I send out my messages to women. Nothing rude, it's a message from a guy who knows what he wants and wants women to know that a man is better than a whiny "nice guy". The women who are in it for self satisfaction can't take the reality of being called on their garbage. On one level it makes me a little insulted to be blocked by attention (bleep) but it shows I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

I won't post my messages here, though. It would give away my angle but using what we learn from life and this site you guys should be able to come up with good ones of your own. If you're not being a jerk, or a twerp and you still get blocked then you know it's because the woman is not worth your time and woe to any AFC who crosses her path. :rockon:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Plentyoffish is the worst dating site on the net. The place is filled with fat pigs and attention hors! If you want to try dating websites try ethnic sites. For example if your polish go to a polish website, if your greek a greek dating website and so on. Plentyoffish is a haven for fat hicks.

Most girls on american websites tend to be on the ugly side. They are usually either fat, ugly, social rejects or atteniton hors who have no intent on meeting a guy. The ethnic sites are much better.

BTW be careful on ethnic websites because some girls post fake pics. had that happened to me a few times. I met 2 girls and the photo they sent me was not them even though they claimed it was.
 

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lol Sir haha..it would be good for me if it was plentyofsinglemoms.com(love milfs) but ya I have seen that to it kinda sucks...all they are there for is to massage their ego. I actually only made a profile to see how my looks rated yes superficial but whatever lol.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Yeah, I've never had any luck on that site. Plenty of mental cases there. This one dental assistant chick once contacted me "Live" and we messaged back and forth around the 4th of July. So she says, "I'm going boating today with friends" so I say, "You should ask me to come" and she says, "Oh, I should, should I?" I said, "yeah." Then the next day she says that she didn't even go. Insecure b1tches like that just ruin there chances with me all the time. No wonder they never get any head, and are lonely.
 

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I agree with everything said on this thread, but you have to not let rejection and flaking get to you and make you negative. It's easier said than done, but you have to just laugh it off and not take it personally. Getting women is selling yourself, and good salesmen learn to not let rejection bother them. Most people can't handle hearing 'no' constantly, which is why sales jobs pay so well to top salespeople. Carrying negativity hurts your new interactions. Think sticks-and-stones, water off a duck's back, and who cares what some random Internet chick says or does?
 

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i do think most of the girls you deal with online are probably fat or screwed up in some way. otherwise they'd be taken already by guys in real life

I think Bible Belt's myspace advice is probably a good idea, tho, if you're really intent on sarging online
 

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Plentyoffish is the dry-well of internet dating.

I tend to put very little stock in this website. I'll give two reasons:

1. It advertises itself as a DATING website. This scares off young, hip, attractive women who don't want to settle down just yet. Conversely, it attracts older, separated/divorced, overweight mothers who are trying to play the pair of 2s God gave them before they die.

Compare this to myspace or facebook, which only claim to be meeting websites. Far more hip and current, far less commitment expected, and without the stigma of needing to use the internet to find a date. Thus, desirable women use it.

2. It is female-centric: much of the features and anecdotes shown on the website are aimed at the female demographic, much like ads for bathroom cleaners on TV.

Stop wasting your time on this one and start using myspace, hotornot, or facebook. And remember, if you have to pay money for a meeting website, its a scam.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Lord Shinra

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I used plentyoffish once out of curiousity while I was on this site.
I took it down the next day. When even the 4s (which I needed to give to my AFC friends in order to get this girls potential resources out) give an attitude, I stopped using it.

I'd like to see a 4 give me lip in person and not try to be an internet badass.
 

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Being_the_Don said:
How many of you use plentyoffish? I found out about it from this site. Okay, we know to qualify women so that we don't get used and abused. So I was surfing, and came across a profile written by a woman who had a lot of demands but she didn't even post a photo. I sent her a message mentioning that guys don't need to worship women but should treat them as human beings. I also asked her that with all her demands why not post a photo of herself. Guess what? The cow blocked me. I went to check my inbox and didn't see anything. So I thought maybe it didn't go through. So I attempt to send it again but I get this message that the user blocked me. She got called on being an attention (bleep) and didn't like it. I've been doing the qualifiers with every woman I message. Most don't know what to make of it. A lot of them think I'm testing them, playing a game. A few have gotten defensive and this is the second one to block me. The first one told me off THEN blocked me. :p Before I started qualifying women I didn't have this response from women on dating sites. I'd get lots of responses but it was because they liked what I had to say. Now that I'm breaking free of the Matrix this is what happens. All the same, there are some great women who I'm talking with. Hotties who look good (and not just me saying it, they ARE hot) which again is good because a handsome guy should get responses from extremely attractive women. But no more worship. I'm done with that.

Incidentally, a few months ago I had read a thread down in the Mature Man's forum about one of the mods had posted on plentyoffish a while back. I used my own style when I send out my messages to women. Nothing rude, it's a message from a guy who knows what he wants and wants women to know that a man is better than a whiny "nice guy". The women who are in it for self satisfaction can't take the reality of being called on their garbage. On one level it makes me a little insulted to be blocked by attention (bleep) but it shows I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

I won't post my messages here, though. It would give away my angle but using what we learn from life and this site you guys should be able to come up with good ones of your own. If you're not being a jerk, or a twerp and you still get blocked then you know it's because the woman is not worth your time and woe to any AFC who crosses her path. :rockon:

Yeah, I'm not having much luck on Plentyoffish, though to be fair, I've talked with one really cool woman so far. But, as long as I'm not taking the desperate AFC route, I figure it's a good learning experience.

A lot of them don't respond, which is weird for "women who are looking" they don't seem to put in the tiniest bit of effort for some guys. Their loss. I figure I just have less weirdo's to deal with.

The holidays were a pain in the ass because all the usual stuff had been canceled, so the quality women haven't been around. So, I thought I'd try the site. It was free, so there's nothing to lose.

Craigslist is worthless. It's 98 percent spam. The rest of the dating sites are fairly worthless, too... I'm not spending 50 bucks a month on this when there's no guarantee I'd find anyone who could hold my interest.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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"you are more likely to get more responses if you have a pic"
 

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SayWord? said:
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"you are more likely to get more responses if you have a pic"
I'm not entirely sure about that. I mean, yeah, a lot of women say "no pic no response", but I have two fairly good pictures of me on there, and I've only had one woman who has been cool enough to write back. So that picture = response rule is kind of a fluke. (fish? Fluke? eh? Ok, just know that these AREN'T the jokes I'm using on anyone there).
 

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Mental said:
I'm not entirely sure about that. I mean, yeah, a lot of women say "no pic no response", but I have two fairly good pictures of me on there, and I've only had one woman who has been cool enough to write back. So that picture = response rule is kind of a fluke. (fish? Fluke? eh? Ok, just know that these AREN'T the jokes I'm using on anyone there).
i'm currently signed up and i dont have a pic at all. refuse to do it
 
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Plentyoffish isn't bad. I have made plans to meet a girl next week off that site.
 

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I've scored a fair bit of ass of that site...I swear girls on that site are super easy and for the most part not really that attractive.

Me and my gf posted "fake" profiles to see the kinda responses we'd get haha...its pretty hilarious. She had 40+ emails the first day and tons of guys trying to IM her. Several of the emails were from women too! The pics on the profile are us, but the description etc is all made up totally not like our personalities!

Check it out:

my gf:
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member6165546.htm

me:
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member6106522.htm
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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