"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So most men aren't getting any off pof. Special breaking news bulletin: guess what? Most chicks who are on the site are not only just replying to the hottest guys but are meeting up and hooking up with other chicks on there to get off. Don't believe just because they have 'straight' and 'searching for a man' on their profiles they aren't sending nudes and meeting up with other chicks. Trust me. The chicks that are chronic residents of that site are straight up freaks.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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So most men aren't getting any off pof. Special breaking news bulletin: guess what? Most chicks who are on the site are not only just replying to the hottest guys but are meeting up and hooking up with other chicks on there to get off. Don't believe just because they have 'straight' and 'searching for a man' on their profiles they aren't sending nudes and meeting up with other chicks. Trust me. The chicks that are chronic residents of that site are straight up freaks.
I'm not sure about the lesbianism. But I completely agree the chronic are complete freaks.

My friend got ZERO attention and he was a decent looking guy. He had a real profile and "normal" pictures. He got sick of it eventually like 99.9999% of guys who find it doesn't really work effectively. He then started posting stupid pictures of himself. Like a halloween picture with his face covered in fake blood.

Suddenly he got a couple of nibbles and a girl actually messaged him first. That never happened before. She was a 4-5 to me and he knew she was ugly and still hit it. Of course he wasn't proud of it and didn't introduce her to anyone. Hit'n'quit. haha

Funny thing is that if he still had the "normal" and nice pictures of himself, she probably couldn't have been LESS interested in him. :confused: :confused: :confused: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes:
fuvked up girls online, that's for sure.

She's probably one of those chronic freaks on there now.
 

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I'm not sure about the lesbianism. But I completely agree the chronic are complete freaks.

My friend got ZERO attention and he was a decent looking guy. He had a real profile and "normal" pictures. He got sick of it eventually like 99.9999% of guys who find it doesn't really work effectively. He then started posting stupid pictures of himself. Like a halloween picture with his face covered in fake blood.

Suddenly he got a couple of nibbles and a girl actually messaged him first. That never happened before. She was a 4-5 to me and he knew she was ugly ands still hit it. Of course he wasn't proud of it and didn't introduce her to anyone. Hit'n'quit. haha

Funny thing is that if he still had the "normal" and nice pictures of himself, she probably couldn't have been LESS interested in him. :confused: :confused: :confused: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes:
fuvked up girls online, that's for sure.

She's probably one of those chronic freaks on there now.
You'd think i was lying, misinformed, or crazy for thinking chicks arent hitting on each other on there but try putting up a few realistic looking pictures of a hot chick and hit on other women. Youll be amazed how they reply and even start getting sexual. I'm telling you loads of chicks on there are bi but dont mention it.
 

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You'd think i was lying, misinformed, or crazy for thinking chicks arent hitting on each other on there but try putting up a few realistic looking pictures of a hot chick and hit on other women. Youll be amazed how they reply and even start getting sexual. I'm telling you loads of chicks on there are bi but dont mention it.

I thought it was the opposite man. lol
At least on OKC, I noticed TONS of girls who considered themselves as "Bi". The reality is that these girls almost invariable message and respond to men. OKC actually posted statistics on this issue and showed that girls listed as "Bi" overwhelmingly showed a bias to contacting men.

My theory is that the girls who openly say that they are Bi are pure attention wh0res trying to get men interested in them for being "sexually open".

It just doesn't make sense. It seems that 20% of the girls online (at least on OKC) are Bi, yet I have hardly met or heard of even 1-2 girls in my life who actually were Bi legit. So I stick to the attention wh0re story.

I have trolled these supposed Bi girls online and they get so rude and defensive when I call them on their BS. And I'm nice to them. All I say are things like "so how many girls have you actually dated?" The answer is INVARIABLE a rude or defensive response. My retort is then: "I'll take that as none."
 

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I thought it was the opposite man. lol
At least on OKC, I noticed TONS of girls who considered themselves as "Bi". The reality is that these girls almost invariable message and respond to men. OKC actually posted statistics on this issue and showed that girls listed as "Bi" overwhelmingly showed a bias to contacting men.

My theory is that the girls who openly say that they are Bi are pure attention wh0res trying to get men interested in them for being "sexually open".

It just doesn't make sense. It seems that 20% of the girls online (at least on OKC) are Bi, yet I have hardly met or heard of even 1-2 girls in my life who actually were Bi legit. So I stick to the attention wh0re story.

I have trolled these supposed Bi girls online and they get so rude and defensive when I call them on their BS. And I'm nice to them. All I say are things like "so how many girls have you actually dated?" The answer is INVARIABLE a rude or defensive response. My retort is then: "I'll take that as none."
It's because you're a guy trolling them. Unless you are over 6ft and extremely aesthetic they will be obnoxious to you. I've trolled as a hot looking bi chick to test that out and trust me the noodz will fly. Get them hot enough and you can talk to them in the most deviant sexual ways. Every test ive ran. 10 guy. Hot chick. Proved 100% what i knew the site was about. Once you see for yourself how full of it those chicks are and have talked with literally hundreds between 10 guy hot chick and my own profile i had using creative unique emails and trolling with fake profiles over several months between the three combined....you prove the site is nothing more than an adult friend finder light version for low life sexual deviants, the desperate, and complete loons. Nothing more.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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So you're saying you've had women send you all kinds of sh!t even when you were using a fake female profile? I can believe that.
 

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xs_ said:
So you're saying you've had women send you all kinds of sh!t even when you were using a fake female profile? I can believe that.

Naughty Ninja's like that crazy uncle we all have who says random, crazy sh*t. You just gotta nod and smile and change the conversation topic.
 

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Lots of chicks there have no real life friends or social circle aka crazy, thats why they have to settle for online dating.
The above is the basic premise as to why online dating is a futile exercise for anyone interested in anything other than a lame lay with a girl below his standards. It is the sad, yet simple truth.

Attractive women are CONSTANTLY pursued. Constantly. Forget the PUA bullsh1t propaganda that attractive women are rarely approached because men are intimidated. Complete nonsense. I have seen the truth through mutual friends and I have seen the truth when sarging at lounges. Believe me, any girl above a 6 is approached AT LEAST once a night on ANY given day that she goes to a lounge or club. I have seen a 7 get approached 3 times in the span of 1 hour or so. And this place was NOT even a "meat market". It was an upscale place for professionals.

Attractive women are snagged up at work, through mutual friends and through outings as mentioned above on a regular basis. Only the undesirables end up online. So you are 100% right PairPlusRoyalFlush. And btw, speed dating is not much different. SLIGHTLY higher quality girls, especially in the older age brackets 30+. However, pretty much the same logic applies. So don't expect a hottie at any speed dating events, unless she is there as moral support for her 5'3 200 lb friend. :crackup:

Oh and I speak from experience on both fronts. If anyone is curious about online dating, feel free to message me and I'll give you ALL the details so that you don't waste your time if you are considering it.

However, what I will say is a big plus about speed dating is that you can practice your social skills. It is a good way to help break out of your shell if you're very nervous about talking to people you have not met before. If you're going there strictly for meeting girls, you might want to think again.
 

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So you're saying you've had women send you all kinds of sh!t even when you were using a fake female profile? I can believe that.
You don't have to. As long as the profile pics look real and not obviously model posed as well as having noodz of the same fake profile its done in three exchanges and noodz are swapped. Most chicks already have theirs stored on their phones to send to the fake chicks email address. I
 

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A handful of women on there (most recent, a divorced hot blonde since April the 20th) will msg back and forth with me but I do not see them ever viewing my profile? She must have it set to where I can't see her viewing my profile, so I've started asking them if they even viewed my f'in profile. I mean, they be laughin and showing interest yet I'm thinking no profile view so she must just be AWing my as5 wasting my fvckin time. I'm going to start blocking the ones who continue msging for weeks yet never view my description my pics who I am. Shows she's not serious just AWing. It's really fvcked up and offensive that a b!tch would do this, yet she says "it's hard finding guys" or "people to meet" just moved here 3 months ago blah blah. These POF hags...beginning to really not be worth the effort, you just gotta know when to cut 'em off. The sooner you recognize the bullsh!t enabling you to cut them off sooner, the sooner you'll be saving your precious time in your pursuit to add more plates to replace others. The same goes in in-person pickups. You've got to have a good bullsh!t sniffer to cut them off ASAP. This falls in line with what Anti-Dump wrote about.
 
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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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hey guys, i just had a revelation. most guys aren't having luck on dating sites because 95% of the chicks they're messaging are really dudes testing out dating theories. Hence the non responses/last second flakes

haha na but really--in terms of the bi thing, that's always been a red flag for me. they WANT you to think it's like the movies, a perfect 10 chick who happens to love men and women equally, when really, its an average/below average looking confused attention ***** with massive emotional problems that favors one sex over the other
 

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have been seeing a lot of pof threads lately so decided to make a fake 'hot girl' account to see how bad it is. Its horrible. Had 11 emails before i even uploaded 2 pics!
 

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Let me teach you poor guys something. Gay men pose as straight females on those sites. The females you are attracted to on those sites are not real. Do you think a 19 year old attractive female in the USA is going to need that site? In America the p---- ain't gold, it drips oil. If she wants something she doesn't have to look. It will come to her!

Gay men are not what Hollywood tells you they are. Most are obsessed with getting with straight guys. Even if it means online sex chat. MANY gay men also go straight. They just like lots of sex. So, they get off to both. Are they bi? Who knows. I promise you that some of your fathers have gone both ways. It is more common than you think. Many very straight men also will never go through with actual gay sex. Online is about as far as it gets for them.
 

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Online dating sucks and people aren't who they say they are... This is not new information. Whether or not there are secret lesbians trading naked pic on POF has no relevance to "game" or being a better man.

Seriously though, this thread made me laugh out loud... Online lesbian conspiracy!
 

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i have a question. im a virgin bit have been blessed with some good looks and a nice body. should i sleep with a few 4-6's on POF just to get my confidence up? im willing to do it at this point but these girls would be WELL below my standards
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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the third eye said:
i have a question. im a virgin bit have been blessed with some good looks and a nice body. should i sleep with a few 4-6's on POF just to get my confidence up? im willing to do it at this point but these girls would be WELL below my standards

Ive gotten alot of bjs from pof , and maybe two lays , and i would advise against it , you dont really know what they look like until you meet , you can just as easily get a 4 - 6 in the real world so u can tell that they really are a 4 - 6 lol and not a 2-4
 

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Ive gotten alot of bjs from pof , and maybe two lays , and i would advise against it , you dont really know what they look like until you meet , you can just as easily get a 4 - 6 in the real world so u can tell that they really are a 4 - 6 lol and not a 2-4
i almost dont even care if theyre below a 4. any tips tho? i havent even gotten one reply, but ive only been messaging girls im attracted to
 

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i almost dont even care if theyre below a 4. any tips tho? i havent even gotten one reply, but ive only been messaging girls im attracted to
what ever you want ,get them irl , leat you know what your getting , all girls are atleast 20 lbs bigger than they look on pof
 

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and if you wanan see why there not messaging you back , make a profile with a somewhat decent looking girl

I did as the op did , to test the waters , maybe 3 mins ago , and i have 9 messages.

its disgusting
 

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90% of the chicks I meet in real life I go out with are at least solid 7's, sometimes 8's but on POF I have to struggle just to get dates with 6's lol. It's pretty funny actually.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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