“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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This is not meant to hinder anyones progress as a person or the progression of this board.


with that said... If you found this site 2 months ago, and you are at home, reading your reports, and downloading porn at the same time... stop hashing out advice that effects REAL people's lives.

One of the problems with this forum is that alot of the new(er) people, who come here for advice, and they get horrible advice at times and good advice, and cant' tell the difference.

An AFC comes here, and i tell him "YOU MUST NOT CALL HER AFTER A DATE FOR 4 DAYS IF YOU HAD SEX"... which is horrible advice in itself.. who is he to argue?

When I first came here, in 02, I read this forum, every last f'n page of it.. for 4 months before I even signed UP. Then I read the DJ Bible cover to cover. Then when I signed up, I asked questoins that I had no answers to. posted field reports, got feedback, complimented fellow DJ's on their progession.

I didn't go around telling guys, me myself trying to figure out how to score the "love of my life" what he is doing wrong.. because I didn't know yet understand what I was doing wrong.


AS I went out and got more experience and applied the **** I learned her to the real world... I started to post a little advice. I offered my opinions, because they weren't restated opinions of others, they were opinions that were tried and tested by me. Not very many of what I say gets shot down becasue well.. I've done it.

This site is probably the most valuable tool you will ever find.. it was for me. USE IT. Don't ABUSE it. although in between watching horse races it's a nice place for me to come and talk to people from time to time, and that's fine and cool.. it's not a place to be taken lightly. People's lives are at stake.

I made a post the other day, real life situtation.. a great woman I'm seeing I found out snorted a little coke, and I wanted some opinions on what I should do. After a day of horrid advice, people asking me why I cared so much about the girl (while we have been fcking for 4 and a half months.. I just decided to be exclusive last week), telling me I'm a lost soul, one guy called my babe a *****, questioning my manhood and one guy threaning to kill me.. twice.

What if I were a true AFC and tossed my girl to the crub over what amounted to a tad bit.. and I do mean particles of coke residue? Is she on watch? Damn right.. but again.. you are effecting people's LIVES. that's not to be taken lightly.

on the flip side... I'd be father along then I am now if I actually listened to people who have been here, and were telling me for years to run as far away as I can from my oneitis.. Eventually It kicked in and I got the message. But again.. what this board has became is a guy posts a problem, he takes the answer HE WANTS TO HEAR and runs with it, then wonders why he has problems.


I've read some of the posts today and some of the advice given is downright pathetic. they ought to be ashamed of themselves, not for not knowing better, but for possibly dishing out advice that can effect people's lives in a negative manner.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Amen brother amen!

Backbreaker and toughlove, along with a VERY few others.. Are the only ones that offer real advice and not raid on someones parade thats off topic such as their grammar or attempt to be sarcastic with wat they wanna know... Not mentioning any names though but u kno who u are.

MUCH props back i always wondered how virgins can give advice on how to kino and lead to sex when theyve.......NEVER DONE IT!
 

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funny enough... I don't do the whole kino=sex thing.. that doesn't work for me.

when I do it's so ovboius what I'm trying to do I don't know why I even mess around. Shirtless back massages with the lights off and a sex CD playing in the background... by the time I go in for the kill she knows it's coming.. usually if I can get to the massage, she's already been closed in her mind. then I give her a couple of mintues to let the reality of what's going to happen sink in.
 

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and one guy threaning to kill me.. twice.
That guy . . . just isn't doing well mentally.

If you look up Donjuanforever and pvssyeater (and djf, and all the myriad combinations), and he's been making the same "OMFG sexual state will get you laid!" post for years. And then flipping out when he's not getting enough adulation, making a massive tirade about how nobody but him gets it, then getting banned, and coming back again. Zero field reports.

I think the thread where he flipped out on me was deleted (for pointing out blatant contradictions in his "I own a successful company" story.) Methinks he's a bit too obsessed with this place.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Alphamale1821 said:

Fail.

He is so true. I know I'm not a DJ or a completely mature man, but I know BS when I see it. And there's quite a bit of it. There's also a lot of good info too though. The hard part (obviously) is knowing which is good advice and which is bad.
 

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Maybe there could be a forum here where you have to earn the right to post advice.
 

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nah.. that would make too much sense.. just like running hard spun on the turf would make too much sense for it to ever happen.
 

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Backy B I don't know man...A lot of people in that topic were on your side and said you should stick with her while keeping a close eye. I saw only a few out of several dozen post that seemed B.S. advice.

Maybe you should have just PMed this topic to DF John?
 

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the ultimate advice is read the dj bible cover to cover...2 or 3 times


do the bootcamp until you finish it
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Some have good advice, some bad. Need to sift through it all and take what works for you. Rereading your thread about the horse chick, I thought most were pretty helpful and honest. Just might have been what you didn't want to hear.
 
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BB, this girl is someone that works at the race track for a living? Exercising horses? First, let me tell you that I trained/owned race horses for 18 years or so in Michigan. Though these were Standardbred harness horses, not the thoroughbreds that you bet on. Anyway, I used to spend my entire days and evenings around the horses and the people who train them, whether it be at my training facility or at the racetrack itself. Now, of course there were many many many girls around who helped out the trainers. THey either paddocked the horses (got them ready to race and took care of them after) or helped around with the daily barn activities.

Most of these girls were slvts, plain and simple. Good for one thing only, fvcking them. In fact we used to call them track slvts. And it was always a game on who could score with what girl. This girl may not be, I'm just saying what most of them were. What I'm trying to say is these girl were of pretty low quality. I would NEVER ever have considered them for a relationship. And I think you'll find that most of the girls and workers in general who help out at the racetracks are like that. Now of course there are exceptions so don't think I am blind here. But if you add in the fact that she is also doing drugs, and COCAINE of all things, I mean wow, I just don't see what you are doing here. If a girl i knew was doing coke, yeah i might F her, but consider her as a potential long term mate? Hell no.

I've read through many of your posts over the months and I have to say I am VERY surprised that you are putting yourself in this situation. Doing a line to go to a movie? That line she fed you about not wanting to transport it doesn't wash either. I mean she had to drive over to your place right? So she transported it then. Anyone who is carrying around a line of coke and a rolled up dollar bill in their purse has used it more than 5 times imo. The type of person who does it 5 times is the type who does it when drunk at a party, or at home with her roomie watching TV, they dont carry it around with them. You are deluding yourself somewhat i feel.

I'm sorry but I just couldn't imagine even considering dating someone who does coke. It would be so foreign and dirty to me. Very low class. I'm not saying she is, but odds are that she is not someone you would want to take home to mom.

Good luck!
Are you trying to get him going again? Why are you posting the same on different threads?
 

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BB, this girl is someone that works at the race track for a living? Exercising horses? First, let me tell you that I trained/owned race horses for 18 years or so in Michigan. Though these were Standardbred harness horses, not the thoroughbreds that you bet on. Anyway, I used to spend my entire days and evenings around the horses and the people who train them, whether it be at my training facility or at the racetrack itself. Now, of course there were many many many girls around who helped out the trainers. THey either paddocked the horses (got them ready to race and took care of them after) or helped around with the daily barn activities.

Most of these girls were slvts, plain and simple. Good for one thing only, fvcking them. In fact we used to call them track slvts. And it was always a game on who could score with what girl. This girl may not be, I'm just saying what most of them were. What I'm trying to say is these girl were of pretty low quality. I would NEVER ever have considered them for a relationship. And I think you'll find that most of the girls and workers in general who help out at the racetracks are like that. Now of course there are exceptions so don't think I am blind here. But if you add in the fact that she is also doing drugs, and COCAINE of all things, I mean wow, I just don't see what you are doing here. If a girl i knew was doing coke, yeah i might F her, but consider her as a potential long term mate? Hell no.

I've read through many of your posts over the months and I have to say I am VERY surprised that you are putting yourself in this situation. Doing a line to go to a movie? That line she fed you about not wanting to transport it doesn't wash either. I mean she had to drive over to your place right? So she transported it then. Anyone who is carrying around a line of coke and a rolled up dollar bill in their purse has used it more than 5 times imo. The type of person who does it 5 times is the type who does it when drunk at a party, or at home with her roomie watching TV, they dont carry it around with them. You are deluding yourself somewhat i feel.

I'm sorry but I just couldn't imagine even considering dating someone who does coke. It would be so foreign and dirty to me. Very low class. I'm not saying she is, but odds are that she is not someone you would want to take home to mom.

Good luck!


this is the last post I will ever make on this forum. I'm sick of people who can't understand the fact that I know how to screen women. I'm sick of people who don't read a damn thing I say and want to become Dr. Phil. and they get laid as much as dr. phil. I'm sick of people who don't get ass telling me that I'm a lost soul because I have it readily available. i'm sick of people throwing out advice that ruins people's lives


my GF called me early this morning and told me she had a suprise for me and to come down to the track. When I got there she was just getting done working and introduced me to an old man. This man is Marion Gross. For thoose of you who don't know who he is, he is the Stallion Manager at Gainsway Farm, the most influencial Stallion farm in America's History. My dream, my goal in life, what I work for everyday now, is to own my own farm. This was a dream come true to me, and she knew it.

Turns out he was on a "scouting" project down here... The Pacafic Classic is here in a couple of days, Del Mar's Biggest race and there are at least 5 horses in there that could make good stallions one day, Including Tiago, who I think he was there to check out.

I bought him lunch, and picked his brain on the business, what he thought of certain bloodlines and broodies. For an hour. We sat there and talked about everything that is TB pedigrees. And I loved every minute of it.

I haven't been that happy in years. Seriously. This is a woman who is ADDING to my life, not taking away from it. She knows my goals, my ambitions and what drives me and she wants me to get there as bad as I do.

How dare you talk about the woman because she does something that she loves, and yes there are a bunch of track sluts, but there are also a bunch of women who do it for the love of the game. I doubt Carla Gaines was a track slut 15 years ago.. A woman with a masters degree in hand in business, left it all behind to come to the west coast to clean stalls and be around horses. now she's the hottest trainer in the west coast. Yep.. she's a real slut.

I know damn well what I'm into.. But that's not the point. I've maxed out on this forum. This forum does worst for me than a line of coke every would. The bad advice. the bickering over **** I have down pact. What if I took your advice and dumped this girl I ovbioulsy like to the curve because you said it was right? When was the last time you got laid? When was the last time you ahd a woman blowing up your phone to be with you? When was the last time you tossed an HB8 to the curve becasue "she just couldnt' fit in your rotation"?


Anyway.. I'm out. Good luck to all
 

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He will be back...... watch this space !!
 

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That's a personal thing. I don't think you can get advise on that. It's all based on what you want. Me personally, I'm still aiming to start a family life. As a result, I would be looking to get serious with a potential wife and mother. I wouldn't want the mother of my children to do coke. So I wouldn't get serious (4 months+) with a coke-head. However, if I eventually gave up on having a family, dating a coke-head wouldn't matter as much to me.
 

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Well actually i got laid last night. I'm in a 3 year relationship though haha.

BB, I never said that your girl was a track slvt, I said that many of the women that work at the racetrack get into that type of mentality. They hang around mainly with other people who work at the track and its there own little clique. If your girl isn't in that clique, and it sounds like she isn't, then great.

But don't discount what I said because it wasn't what you wanted to hear. You sound very defensive. You should know better. Like I said, i have been around the horse racing game since I was 15. I used to practically live at the track. At one point I owned and trained 25 horses and had 3 people working for me at a giant training facility nearby where I lived. My days consisted of getting up, going to the barn all day to train, taking whatever horses were racing that night to the track to race, coming home and going to sleep, and starting over the next day. I know ALL ABOUT what the racing enviornment is. I still own a few horses that race in Chicago but pay someone else to train them.

I think that you are choosing to ignore some good peoples advice here because you want so badly for this girl to turn out ok, and she very well may. But at the same time don't be blind my friend to what is in front of you. Just because you did coke in the past and turned out ok doesn't mean most people could do the same. I have known a couple coke heads and neither one is someone I would be remotely interested in dating due to their issues.
 

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I actually ENCOURAGE "keyboard jockeys" to post as much as they can. The readers of this forum should be able to critically evaluate whatever anyone writes, be it an expert(myself) or a complete novice. Someone who has a true desire to learn the social psychology necessary to be a decent PUA must be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.

And if someone doesn't get it? It's probably better off for the rest of society, since someone of their intelligence probably shouldn't be doing anything that could result in transmission of their genes.
 

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Speaking of the Bible, where can you get it? The link at the bottom doesn't seem to work anymore...
 
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