Please help an inexperienced guy game this girl or understand what's going on

[PainFromSpain]

Hello there 23 y/o guy here that recently got introduced to game and the likes and now I'm trying to get rid of my old beta game which wasn't paying off frequently enough and always left me feeling miserable. I'm dating this girl I met and she left me confused after the second date. The first date was really great, we bonded on a lot of stuff (stuff in common, although I know that doesn't really matter that much for attraction) and I felt like I held a good masculine frame. She kissed me very passionately and in general seemed to be very into me, told me I was hot, we have so much in common, blablabla. I asked her on a second date about 4 days later and she told me she was very keen to come over that evening but that it would be late (22:00) because she had exams and social obligations until then. So at this point I'm thinking: "Damn, she is in a very busy period and still makes time for me at that time. She must be very interested" So she comes over spontaneously bringing a bunch of really specific drinks that we briefly mentioned in our first date, which I thought showed quite some dedication. Anyways, we start talking and listening to some music and I'm mostly listening since she's talking a lot and at some point I just ssssh her with my finger and kiss her. Then I put on a ****ty movie on my laptop and we sit on my bed to watch it. So I go in for another kiss and try to escalate a little bit, but when I started kissing her on the neck and she tells me "I think you're going too fast". I just pulled back without saying anything and kept kissing her normally. I have to say that when she was on my bed her body language was a bit closed up and she kept touching her necklace which indicated nervousness to me. So well I tried a few more times but she kept going back to the movie. When it finished we kissed and hugged for a while and she thanked me for the good time and left. So what does this girl want? Is she trying to withhold sex from me because she's looking at me as a prospect for an LTR or maybe she's naturally cautious or doesn't want to seem easy? When I invite a girl over after 10 pm to my place I feel like it's obvious to both parties that some action is going to happen, so I might hit her up again but I'm giving it a good long wait. So if you can give some pointers to for the future situations like this to spice it up a bit and handle it better? Thanks in advance!!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Hello there 23 y/o guy here that recently got introduced to game and the likes and now I'm trying to get rid of my old beta game which wasn't paying off frequently enough and always left me feeling miserable. I'm dating this girl I met and she left me confused after the second date. The first date was really great, we bonded on a lot of stuff (stuff in common, although I know that doesn't really matter that much for attraction) and I felt like I held a good masculine frame. She kissed me very passionately and in general seemed to be very into me, told me I was hot, we have so much in common, blablabla. I asked her on a second date about 4 days later and she told me she was very keen to come over that evening but that it would be late (22:00) because she had exams and social obligations until then. So at this point I'm thinking: "Damn, she is in a very busy period and still makes time for me at that time. She must be very interested" So she comes over spontaneously bringing a bunch of really specific drinks that we briefly mentioned in our first date, which I thought showed quite some dedication. Anyways, we start talking and listening to some music and I'm mostly listening since she's talking a lot and at some point I just ssssh her with my finger and kiss her. Then I put on a ****ty movie on my laptop and we sit on my bed to watch it. So I go in for another kiss and try to escalate a little bit, but when I started kissing her on the neck and she tells me "I think you're going too fast". I just pulled back without saying anything and kept kissing her normally. I have to say that when she was on my bed her body language was a bit closed up and she kept touching her necklace which indicated nervousness to me. So well I tried a few more times but she kept going back to the movie. When it finished we kissed and hugged for a while and she thanked me for the good time and left. So what does this girl want? Is she trying to withhold sex from me because she's looking at me as a prospect for an LTR or maybe she's naturally cautious or doesn't want to seem easy? When I invite a girl over after 10 pm to my place I feel like it's obvious to both parties that some action is going to happen, so I might hit her up again but I'm giving it a good long wait. So if you can give some pointers to for the future situations like this to spice it up a bit and handle it better? Thanks in advance!!

If her body wants you badly enough she will have you. No excuses. It all happens quickly these days. 3 dates max.

 

[Lookatu]

Did she not drink enough to let go of her hamster wheel? You said she brought over specific drinks. Were they alcoholic?
Well it seems like you got the comfort part out of the way based on her coming over and her expressing herself and having some good previous dates. It could be societal programming on her part not wanting to seem easy or like a slvt. It could also be your technique in making things sexual and raising her desire. Did you do enough push/pull? Or were you just in her frame and obeyed everything she saidd and wanted? I agree with the guys above. Give her another date or two and eject after that.

One technique is to act very detached and cold if she rejects your advances. Then try to go for it again. If she rejects again, just say you're feeling tired or have to get up early the next morning for something and kick her out.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I never encourage being pushy, because maybe there is a good reason she is withholding sex, like not wanting to have an uncomfortable std talk. Or maybe she had diarrhea and didn't want to sh1t everywhere. You never really know. Every decision a woman makes is not always a personal judgment of you, sometimes that includes rejection. Point being that you are always best served to not take rejection personally, which of course is easier said than done.

 

[dude99]

Hello there 23 y/o guy here that recently got introduced to game and the likes and now I'm trying to get rid of my old beta game which wasn't paying off frequently enough and always left me feeling miserable. I'm dating this girl I met and she left me confused after the second date. The first date was really great, we bonded on a lot of stuff (stuff in common, although I know that doesn't really matter that much for attraction) and I felt like I held a good masculine frame. She kissed me very passionately and in general seemed to be very into me, told me I was hot, we have so much in common, blablabla. I asked her on a second date about 4 days later and she told me she was very keen to come over that evening but that it would be late (22:00) because she had exams and social obligations until then. So at this point I'm thinking: "Damn, she is in a very busy period and still makes time for me at that time. She must be very interested" So she comes over spontaneously bringing a bunch of really specific drinks that we briefly mentioned in our first date, which I thought showed quite some dedication. Anyways, we start talking and listening to some music and I'm mostly listening since she's talking a lot and at some point I just ssssh her with my finger and kiss her. Then I put on a ****ty movie on my laptop and we sit on my bed to watch it. So I go in for another kiss and try to escalate a little bit, but when I started kissing her on the neck and she tells me "I think you're going too fast". I just pulled back without saying anything and kept kissing her normally. I have to say that when she was on my bed her body language was a bit closed up and she kept touching her necklace which indicated nervousness to me. So well I tried a few more times but she kept going back to the movie. When it finished we kissed and hugged for a while and she thanked me for the good time and left. So what does this girl want? Is she trying to withhold sex from me because she's looking at me as a prospect for an LTR or maybe she's naturally cautious or doesn't want to seem easy? When I invite a girl over after 10 pm to my place I feel like it's obvious to both parties that some action is going to happen, so I might hit her up again but I'm giving it a good long wait. So if you can give some pointers to for the future situations like this to spice it up a bit and handle it better? Thanks in advance!!

You said you were 23. How old is she?
Could be something as simple as she has never had secs with a guy before and she was nervous when the rubber hit the road

Do you anything about her sechual history?

How old is she.

 

[PainFromSpain]

Did she not drink enough to let go of her hamster wheel? You said she brought over specific drinks. Were they alcoholic?
Well it seems like you got the comfort part out of the way based on her coming over and her expressing herself and having some good previous dates. It could be societal programming on her part not wanting to seem easy or like a slvt. It could also be your technique in making things sexual and raising her desire. Did you do enough push/pull? Or were you just in her frame and obeyed everything she saidd and wanted? I agree with the guys above. Give her another date or two and eject after that.

One technique is to act very detached and cold if she rejects your advances. Then try to go for it again. If she rejects again, just say you're feeling tired or have to get up early the next morning for something and kick her out.

They weren't alcoholic (she drinks very little because she's very dedicated to fitness). Based on your comment and the others I feel like I probably didn't tease her enough/ did push/pull to get her excited. I was not really in her frame but she did ****test me at one point by teasing me and asking if I would tell her to shut up if she talked too much, when I checked her I felt calm but it was kinda overt, something along the lines of "You should listen to me and be quiet". I'll try to fluctuate a bit more next time, because maybe I was too "hot" for most of the date.

 

[Serenity]

She wants LTR. Give it a week or skip a date trying to pressure for sex then try again. Give it another week if she's still thinks it's too fast, keep going like that until she doesn't stop you. Meanwhile enjoy each other's company in other ways. That is if you have the patience and she's a potential LTR to you, if you just wanna fvck then don't waste the time doing this.

Don't be sexually desperate, be chill about it.

She's withholding sex because she doesn't want to fvck a guy if she feels the risk of him leaving is too high. Great strategy to avoid having 100 d!cks in her pvssy before she's lucky enough one of them actually wants LTR as she does.

 

[PainFromSpain]

You said you were 23. How old is she?
Could be something as simple as she has never had secs with a guy before and she was nervous when the rubber hit the road

Do you anything about her sechual history?

How old is she.

I'm sure she is not a virgin and regarding her sexual history from what I've heard she used to be kinda loose when she was 18-19 and then she changed her friend groug and habits and became more reserved. She's about my age

 

[Means1988]

It doesn’t matter what she wants.

If it’s LTR or not, if you come on too strong, or not strong enough, it can push or pull them in.
You went in for the kiss, so you showed courage, and she pulled away. You don’t strike me as a nut case so I’m pretty sure you aren’t going to be an ******* to her, and you possibly have now interest in her.

She liked you enough to do all of that, now just keep being you, don’t try too much. She will want to come over again, and will be all over you.

At 21 I had my own place. Met a girl at a club, invited her over, she couldn’t. Next night she wanted to come over, but didn’t, she did this like 4 days in a row fully ditching me and apologizing as I said “ok”. 5th time she asked me the same **** “what are you doing tonight?”.. I said “it doesn’t concern you”. She apologized again and said she would want to hang out. I said “either you’ll be at my place at 10 PM tonight or you won’t. Makes no difference”... she came, apologized again.. we sat, listen to music for 20 minutes and she literally jumped on me and we ****ed. Every night for 3 weeks she would come and **** me from 10 PM until 5 AM, and go to school and work, and come straight to my place and that’s all we did. No dates, no food, nothing.

Then I said “hey I’m moving from the state” and I broke “her heart”.. found out she broke up with her BF of 2-3 years before ****ing me and that’s why she didn’t want to show up at first.
So again, nobody can tell you why she’s doing that. What matters is she has interest, finds you comfortable enough, allowed you to kiss her. Just keep doing you, don’t ignore her, don’t push her, and she will jump on you by herself.