"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Playing The Status Angle..........

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will this work ? basically dresssing well and going to a college campus.

OKay you are 25 y.o. employied worker or whatever and you make like 100K.

Now, if you goto a college campus of say 19-23 years olds...

First off, You have average or maybe poor looks ..

You dress up in the top of the line clothes ,we're talking Polo, Tommy..etc

We're playing just the Status Angle.. Is this Very Easy for this Guy to get Laid/ GF ?

Because ( IF WE ASSUME FEMALE ATTRACTION == STATUS ) there are two plays here. 1) He's got a Job 2) post college or college graduate he's older .. so Logically he should have an easier time in this situation.

BUT, and a big BUT :

I dont think in the real world its so cut and dry, I believe that 1) pre- giving of IOs they dont know anything about your status..,so it'd be only on your clothes and looks

2) I think even if you dress well and goto a college campus. THERE HAS TO BE AN UNDERLYING ATTRACTION TO YOUR LOOKS AS A BASIS FOR ANYTHING FURTHER TO OCCUR.

WHat do you think ?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You are going to have problems if you the Polo and Tommy are top of the line clothing brands. Also an older guy walking around a college to me it reeks of desperation.
 

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looks-only heretic

bah, this whole thread was just a ruse to put forth your foolishness
 

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Tommy Hilfiger is overpriced garbage. Last I heard they were close to becoming a Walmart-only brand. seriously.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Master Bates said:
Tommy Hilfiger is overpriced garbage. Last I heard they were close to becoming a Walmart-only brand. seriously.

well i m out of date on my clothes. I usually try to get whatever looks good and these look expensive on me.
 

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saks.com

one stop shot for me for the most part
 

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It's not what you wear, but how you wear it. If you don't stand properly even the most expensive hand made tailored suit is going to look like a bag of rags on you.

To be a sharp dressed man, carriage = the way you stand, the way walk and sit is vital. If you are projecting that confident, devil may care attiude already, comfortable in your own skin, you will look fantastic in anything. Walk talk, walk proud and people will not really notice what you have on (unless you look like a compete tramp/hobo).

Want proof? Go to France. See how the Frenchies dress and carry themselves - they look good in anything. The other thing they do is pick clothes that suit them, not always following fashion, and the don't care who's name they are wearing, as long as they look good.

Colour of the clothes is important too. Just because say pink shirts are in vogue this year, doesn't mean to say it will look right on you. It might make you look washed out and ill. If in doubt when buying, stop and ask passing female if this colour suits you - just the excuse you are looking for to start a converstion with that HB.....
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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But expensive cloths feel more comfortable and fit better than cheap cloths. A man that knows how to carry himself and is wearing a $500 shirt looks better than a man who knows how to carry himself and is wearing a $50 shirt.

Expensive cloths fit better, they feel better, the look better and they are 100x more comfortable. They also for the most part reduce sweat as the fabrics are more breathable than synthetics You can not deny you feel less attractive when you are all hot and sweaty than you do when you are fresh and clean.

If you have the money expensive cloths are much better than cheap cloths. That little famous name on the tag is not why you pay more. You pay more for quality work, the fit, design, comfort.
 

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To be honest, and this is just me - I would be seen dead in any of the above links cheap or not....

Depends on what you want to attract - me, I am after high class HB 9-10 so I dress like this:

Evenings - Plain white or black shirt, not too cheap as you said as it does show, a good black suit, again not too cheap, and expensive pair of black shoes and belt.

Daytime - jeans - not cheap and make sure they fit properly, even if you have to go around several shops and try on a few dozen pairs. Plain white or black shirt or a plain black t-shirt (all tucked in). Suit jacket and expensive Brown or black shoes.

Works a treat for me... some women look at me as if I was film star out on the town ,and I have been asked a few times which film or show I had be in...

Dress to impress, but you don't need to buy all the top names, shop around and see what suits you.

A foxy French lady taught me how to dress and how to wear it and I thank her for that.
 

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You do not need to but like I said and you totally ignored it does fit better and it feels more comfortable. Just because you can not afford it stop rationalizing.

I go for high class, cultured, sophisticated 9-10's too, in fact that is all I go for. They appreciate a man who knows fashion. What you said doesn't really make sense because high class women respond better to men wearing designer cloths because it shows you are up there in social hierarchy. Expensive cloths give you status and when gaming high class women status is important.

So you are either talking sh*t or you are gaming what you think are high class women but really aren't. High class women spend a lot of money on cloths too. We are talking $1000+ dollars for a dress. Generally speaking if they are not wearing expensive cloths they are not high class women. This is why high class women respond well to men in designer cloths, because they recognize that you know fashion.

Class basically means your social rank so to be of a high social rank you need most or if not all of these things. Cloths are a way to show your status as a person of high class.

It is just simple social dynamics, generally speaking people stick to their own rank. Not many low class people get high class people. Part of getting high class woman is fashion, it is sad but true. You know what while we are on the subject, if you go to a high class, exclusive club anywhere in the world the bouncers wont let you in if you are not wearing designer cloths. If they look at you and see a $50 polyester blend dress shirt they will say "sorry club is full". If they see a guy in a not too cheap white shirt and in some not too cheap suit they might let him in but then again chances are if the suit is not a designer suit they wont. You can not get into high class clubs if you are not in designer cloths.

Since I do not want to get into this argument again I am going to make clear that I do not think you have to have designer cloths to get any woman even high class ones but they do help and they are more comfortable.
 

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Gold-diggers and shallow whores are the the most likely to be impressed with expensive (and sorry Nickbe, but in the case of some of your links, vulgar and tasteless) clothes.

Develop a personal style, have a reason for the way you dress that reflects who you are, and you will get far more and better quality women.

Also I wanted to post after Night Owl.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Not again, I feel another headache coming on.

Nighthawk

First of all I am not looking for a girlfriend I get rid of 90% of the women I sleep with after one night and hardly any last more than two weeks. So I do not care if they are shallow, gold diggers or angels.

Second read my post, we are talking about getting high class women. High class women already have money so they are not gold diggers. High class women are not being shallow they are just operating within their part of the social hierarchy. I agree with you if you go to a run of the mill club or bar you probably should not be wearing a $2,000 outfit. If however you are going after high class women you need to dress in expensive cloths otherwise you will not get through the front door.
 

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I understand that you aren't interested in a gf, but the OP mentioned getting one as a possible aim. Also, the OP was talking about college girls, which is not quite the same group as 'high class.'

But ultimately he was asking if expensive clothes were a magic pill, which we can all agree they are not.

But don't have a headache, I still rate your advice.
 

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I am talking to Nightowl though not the original poster.

Look to put it in simple terms:

Cheap/average cloths + No game = No women

Cheap/average cloths + game = attractive women of average class

Expensive cloths + No game = No women except for maybe gold diggers

Expensive cloths + game = women average to high class women and women being more receptive to your advances in general.

Of course there are exception I am talking in general and oversimplifying. There are many other factors at play.

I think people are also forgetting that all women go for money, some go for money because they want you to buy them nice stuff but the majority go for money because men with money are generally driven, successful and confident. Those are three attractive traits that women love.
 

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Hehehe

I have just realized how old you are - I have got twice as many miles on the clock than you !!

With the years comes something called wisdom.

With Wisdom - I can spot a gold digger, a high maintainance job, shallow *****s, seperated women with teenages at home, those looking for a quick one night stand, and those looking for a LTR from a mile away as soon as they come on to my radar and avoid like the plauge or some STD.

With Wisdom - I know if I dress a certain way, I get a certain result. After years of fine tuning I have got something that works and attacts the women I want to be with. Might not be the sort of woman you want to be with, but I am happy.

With Wisdom - I discovered that I don't need to dye my hair, I don't need to drive a flash car, nor brag about anything. I don't need to spend money on dates nor really expensive designer named clothes - all have the reverese effect.

Yes I have made plenty of mistakes, but I have learned, sometimes the hard way. But at the end of the day, if you read the DJ bible and writings of others here you will find a way that works. And you are luckly, you have this forum/site to help - years ago there was nothing.

Good luck and good hunting !!
 

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And just forgot to add - you don't pick up women, they let you pick them up. They have faster radars than us and got us work out in a split second. You think you have gone out and made a sucessful cold approach on some woman, but she has already seen you, and allowed you to come in for the kill.

Women are miles ahead of us in the game - they are experts at it, and only now are we starting to catch up and using their rules against them.

Don't wait, nor hesitate, get in there quick before it's too late !!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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