"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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player rep? i think i stepped in poop

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Aight before u guys flame me.. the high school dont have any good replies, and you guys are the most experienced

aight so i switched new schools after semster 1 and i met ALot of new people

so i been chattin it up with a lot of girls.. and even some girls came to me..
i got lots of new numbers and emails.. and only like a few rejections

but im like suck in this one mode where im flirting with every girl.. even some teachers haha( never went to far with that, just enough to make them smile)
and i think im flirting with too many girls

this one girl that was very interested in me, i used kino with her and i had her.

but she just lost all the interest like in one week, more like one day i think,

shes mad and thinks im a player. i dont really care about her, she wasnt that great, i found her inexperienced but its buggin me. I dont want some other hot girl do the same thing she did

I dont want the girls to think im a player because im not tryin to get them into bed or anything. its just fuked up and its buggin me

what do u guys think
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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if you aren't trying to get them in bed.... then what exactly are you trying to do?

Play Monopoly?
 

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Inever did that. i mean jump to another girl.. i find that disrespectful

i dunno.. well my plan was to find a LTR girl but i kinda "fell off the table"
i dunno what the hell im doing right now

i guess i was lookin for an LTR girl but i havnt found the right one\
the only thing i can think of is to slow down
 

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What makes you think they view you as a player, rather than a socialite?

Don't stop talking to the girls because you're afraid of the player label.
 

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you are in HIGH SCHOOL

The words Long, Term and Relationship should never be used in the same sentence.

Trust me when i say, that the odds that you even give 2 ****s about the people you are in school now 5 years now are slim to none.

The only two people out of a 2000 member school I even talk to are my two best friends.. and we might hang out one time a week


anyway, read this site. Read it again. you want the companionship of a woman. YOu don't want a LTR. Big difference.

You want someone to take to prom. Taking ag irl to prom, and getting married are two totally different things.

I am 22, will be 23 in 3 months, and I know the best part of my sexual prime isn't even for another 10 years! No way in hell I am passing that up for anyone right now, unless someone absoutly swept me off my feet, which I don't see happening.

And that's not necessarly me being a player. That's me understanding what I want in life, and not compromising.

women use the player tag like it's a negative stigmatism because they want you to settle down and be with them.

It's in a woman's interest to tie you up as quickly as possible.

I know a girl like that. She got married at 18, I met her when she was 23 (I was 21). AFter 2 months, and me not even really making a move on her because after all, she was married, to be totally honest, she was cute, but dating/****ing her was probably the last thing on my mind (which in hindsight is probably why she was so attracted to me) she pretty much dragged me into a bathroom at her job one day, pulled down my pants and gave me a BJ.

That's what happens to guys who get married at the age you are at. Guys like Me come along. Guys who know what they want, and don't compromise their dreams and goals to fit the agenda of others
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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your right about that, but im happier to be in a relationship.. I can if i want, chase women around and get laid, been there done that and to be honest. i feel uncomterable, im not that type of guy for the one night stands.. I would rather find my self in a relationship where I can MAintain it and control things, I have the urge for romantic things, but i also hold my ground.
 

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See..

You watch too much TV.

There is a Huge difference between having a relationship and being in a LTR.

I had a girl over my house last night. We had a great time. WE had sex, she spent the night, we got up and I cooked breakfast and she left to go do whatever it is women do on saturdays

Our RELATIONSHIP is that we have casual sex, go out, spend time together,etc

That's the extent of our REALATIONSHIP

But i also have that RELATIONSHIP with 2 other women for the most part.

And yes, the topic of dating has came up, and I am 110% honest. I am not ready to be tied down as of right now to one person, because there are too many options out there.. if she were to just sweep me off my feet, then sure, but she hasn't done enough to warrant being number one and only in my eyes.

And she is fine with that.. at least for now.. sure, she will get her girly tantroms and complain about me being afraid of committment, which I will have to pull my **** out and shove it in her mouth to shut her up :)

JK about that part, but it's what women do.

You have to understand, men and women have two totally different agenda..

and mine isn't necessrly to **** anything that walks.

Now.. I got out of a LTR with a woman that's 27 (I'm 22). We were damn near engaged. She was a great gal. Looked great. Was funny as hell. Great in bed. She had her flaws, but she was enough woman to at the time make me say, you know what.. for now she's all I want.

And I could honeslty say that, becuase I wasn't in a rush to date her.. she begged me for 5 months to be exlcusive.. it wasn't untiL I realized that she made me happier than anyone else that I agreed... and she didn't have to worry about me cheating, becuase i had no reason to.. If I didn't like her anymore, I would break up with her.. which i did.. we just weren't compatable long term.

You just can't settled down with the first girl that puts it on you... becuase they will.

Pook said it best...

"The Nice Guy desire to ‘merge’ with a woman is partly a desire to lose himself"
 

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Man backbreaker, the more I read from you, the more I realize you are speaking from your experience and applying it to a wide number of problems. It's great that you try, but sometimes.... meeeeeh it's not quite right. Try not to talk about your only two friends in high school, and that oneitis you had, or the two and a half years you spent to work on your job.... to FREAKING explain to somebody why THEY watch too much TV and that "pook says" that they are becoming less manly for looking for an LTR.

If you want to spread your fears about being controlled, and having nothing in common with people, do it in another thread.

Otherwise stay on topic, something you managed to make me not do.

kuta, you shouldn't care if a girl thinks you are a player, there should be no reason she even thinks you are. She may look away from you after your conversation and see you smiling and flirting with another girl. That is what I meant, not necessarily CUTTING from a conversation, but after it is done, you proceed to ignore the girl and find another one.

I've been called a player before, but after I tell her what it means to our relationship, it only puts a smile on their face.
 

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so i shouldnt worry if a girl thinks im a player? dont girls love to gossip though?
 

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They love to gossip. They also love to fight over a guy that's worth fighting for.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yeah I get that too:

girl -Are you going out with me tomorrow?
Taviii -Nah, I going out with someone else...
girl -With another girl?
Taviii -Nah, I'm not that succesfull with girls to go out with a different one every night...
girl -You're such a liar!!

Some seem to really have a problem with this player reputation. Dont limit yourself to just one ***** for anyone though. You are the prize, they have to fight for you.
 
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