Clockwerk50
Master Don Juan
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1 more year of this and you will start babbling incoherently like BaronOfHair
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I am still recovering from a lifestyle of endlessly chasing women and prioritising them over other aspects.I wasn't going to bother with this, but if you're going to go so far as to privately message me, I'll respond if only to get you to move on.
First and foremost, you and All Kindz of Gainz share pretty much the same sentiment with this. I believe you guys care so much about my financial situation in particular because you likely have achieved greater success in those areas, but lesser success when it comes to women, and maybe you feel that you should have similar success because you figured out more areas of your life than me.
Don't know, don't care, but that's my theory.
I live at home. I am very transparent about that in my posts and with the women that I sleep with. It is not ideal, and I am taking steps to change that situation.
That said, my post was regarding a girl hitting ME up and whether I should bother with it, given the fact that I live at home and so does she (technically). I am not going to be able to suddenly condense the 5-year plan you think I should have into the few hours between when I posted this and when I went out. I am not spending my weekends out at the bar for hours on end, blowing the money I've been saving up - I got invited and I asked whether I should go, given the short history I have with this girl and the fact that neither of us has a place to go, plus her being with friends.
Yet you and Baron have turned this into some sort of psychiatric dissertation based on the merit of supposed "tough love" when I am not even asking for advice about this problem. And even if I were, you've given me no reason to value your advice beyond the fact that you're a "mirror" of me - you follow this up by stating that you already had 2 children by my age as if that's a metric of success. Maybe it is to you, but certainly not to me.
I know nothing about you; how much you make, what you do, etc so why would you think I'd value your advice? Especially when I'm neither asking for it nor looking to solve that problem by asking the question in this post.
I state things like my body count, my living situation, my age, and the fact that I got BJs from this girl in her car to establish CONTEXT. If you find that to be arrogant or boastful of me, that's your problem, not mine - they are merely statements.
Hopefully this gives you the attention you've been craving from your multiple replies and direct message.
By the way, I'm 30.
Really? Thats pathetic, and thats me being polite.@Serenity or @BackInTheGame78 could one of you lock this thread? It's 2 pages too many.
I asked a question, I got an answer. I'm tired of getting notifications.
Dude wants to run around schooling people but can't take a little push back himself.You can hit "unsubscribe from this post" and it will stop the notifications. You want the see your thread increasing in comments, don't you?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
How'd the night go?I'll try to make this as concise as possible since this is either happening or not happening tonight...
Met this girl through Hinge, she's an au pair (lives with a host family with children).
Hung out with her twice, both times we went out for drinks at different bars and the night ended with a BJ in her car, though the second time she wanted to have sex - just not in the car, she wanted it to be in a normal room with a normal bed.
We can't go to her place because she's an au pair, and we can't go to mine since I live with my family.
For this reason I thought our next meet-up could involve getting a room somewhere and having drinks there. She wasn't too interested in this idea because although she's been very open about wanting sex, she doesn't seem to want it to be ONLY sex. I told her I'd be willing to hang out and do other things, but I put that ball in her court since she's busy working or with her host family most often.
A couple weeks go by, she posts an Instagram story with her friends out at a local bar after having not read or responded to my message asking if she was free that weekend, so I just wrote her off.
She regularly watches and likes my Instagram story since they're mostly workout clips, and asked me if I was going out tonight. She told me she was going to be out with friends for a costume party at a local bar with some of her friends and invited me to join them.
I'm wondering whether I should go to that. I may have 1 other friend join me, but otherwise I'd be by myself. Logistically, I don't see a way the night could go all that great - especially since she's going to have friends to worry about and not just me.
So yeah, what do you guys think? Please don't leave some useless reply just for the sake of leaving a reply a la @MatureDJ or @AmsterdamAssassin as I need to figure this out in the next few hours.
How'd the night go?
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I wouldn't refer to "tentative plans" as plans. It would be better as a flexible plan instead - that is, if you have anything else planned for the night aside from the main goal.Made tentative plans to do something tonight, just us 2. Also mentioned that her birthday is coming up next week and that she would be moving out of her host family's place and getting her own in January.
What do you mean by "playing her"?I wouldn't refer to "tentative plans" as plans. It would be better as a flexible plan instead - that is, if you have anything else planned for the night aside from the main goal.
As for the birthday, it's not the best event for you to be playing her, even if you're invited. More likely it's a chance for you to show decency; otherwise, if she's not someone worthwhile long-term, go ahead and take the insane risk.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I thought it was taking her to Chuck E Cheese for a round of Street Fighter.He probably means 'manipulating her (into having sex with you)'.
That CEC hasn't removed Street Fighter from their establishments, after a 60something year old White woman started screeching "That's problematic!!!"/"Perpetuates Toxic Masculinity" indicates that our civilization may not be doomed after allI thought it was taking her to Chuck E Cheese for a round of Street Fighter
Done@Serenity or @BackInTheGame78 could one of you lock this thread? It's 2 pages too many.
I asked a question, I got an answer. I'm tired of getting notifications.