"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Plans for 4 different plates: it's going to be a good 2012...

OnTheWayUp

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Hope everyone had an awesome New Year and is back for an even more awesome 2012. For me, this is going to be the year of discovering the gym. I had been a few times before 3 weeks ago, but it always petered out and was never a regular thing. For the last three weeks I've been Mon-Wed-Fri and am loving it!

Anyway, I'm going back to uni in a week and have been thinking about my 4 different plates in between going to the gym and job-hunting. They're all cute and cool to hang out with, but I'm at varying stages with each different one. Here are my plans for each girl- see what you think.

Girl 1: 20yo, art student, HB9 and crazy, former oneitis. We had 4 dates in November and had sex twice. She went no contact on me a month ago after I implied I wanted to have a relationship with her (classic mistake, I know). She hasn't got back to me, so there's a very good chance that I won't see her again. However, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so I'm considering sending her a reinitiation text (eg inviting her to a party) or showing up with friends to a party I know she likes.

Girl 2: 20yo, languages student, HB7 Greek girl, very petite and feminine. We had 3 dates in November, all of which ended with good make out sessions, but I couldn't get any further. When I first met her, she said she had a bf, but I initially thought nothing of it as she was happy to make out anyway. However, after date 3, she friendzoned me, so I'm presuming she was casually seeing a guy before me and decided to go back to him. I'm considering inviting her out for a drink one on one as this worked well before. If not, I'll invite her to a party with a larger group of friends and just look to hook up based on how interested she is.

Girl 3: 19yo, languages student, very plain face (5?) but awesome body (8.5) as she does a lot of sport. Softly spoken and feminine. Knows me from back in school days, she recently reinitiated contact as we go to the same university. I thought she had a crush on me when she was 15, but back then I was too much of a pu$$y to act on it. Met up for a drink yesterday and she seems to be very into me, lots of IOIS. Looking to invite her to a party- she is very social and will have a lot of cute friends who I can play against each other. If using her as a pivot doesn't work, I might make a move on her, depending on what vibe I get from her.

Girl 4: 21yo, anthropology student, virgin, HB7. Met her through my main band and hooked up (everything but penetrative sex) 3 times in 3 days after Girl no. 1 dumped me. At the time, I was just looking for some quick action to stop myself thinking about Girl 1, but the time I spent with Girl 4 was actually pretty awesome. She's contacted me a couple of times over the holidays and I've contacted her once. I'm going easy on the contact during holidays as I've found that too much contact often without seeing each other in person often puts a girl off. I will try to invite her over in the first week of term and keep up what we have. I think she has lots of potential as a FWB, but at the same time I don't want to hurt her as she's a virgin. I think the best plan is just to be upfront and say I don't want anything serious.

Thanks for reading gents. Any input/comments would be awesome.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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OnTheWayUp

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Espi said:
There are NEVER too many plates. I can be spinning 3 different plates and literally lose contact with all 3 in the same day. So the more, the better.

Keep pushing for more plates. When you get 10 plates, go for 10 more.

If you f-close one plate, keep putting yourself out there and approaching more women.

And definitely keep hitting the gym. That'll help lead to more plates.

Should have said that I'm still very keen to meet new girls as well, completely agree with the above. Any comments on my specific plans?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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pdx1138

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Bueller.....Bueller.....Bueller

just kiddin.

You're doing well....keep it up!

'nuff said
 
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