Planning vacation to Europe, where to go?

[thunder_god]

I'm planning on visiting France + either Sweden or Poland. I'm planning on staying between 1-2 weeks, probably around 1.5 weeks depending on costs and budget. I'll be travelling by myself and using airbnb and looking for a private apartment or at the minimum a private room so that I have a place to pull if I get lucky there. I was thinking something like 6-7 days in paris + 4-5 days in either Sweden or Poland. What do you guys think? Also which cities in France, Sweden, and Poland do you guys suggest? Do you guys have suggestions for attractions and things to do there? I hear Gothenburg is the place to be for Sweden if I'm looking to game + site see and Either Krakow or Wroclaw is the best place for gaming. Not sure if this is true or not but I hear girls from the following European countries are much more open to hooking up with Asians compared to North America such as: France, Sweden, Norway, Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, Austria, Hungary, Ukraine, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, and and Russia. I'm hoping I can leverage the exotic factor to my advantage. I've also read I should try and stay in 2nd tier cities where the population of females don't get much exposure to asians to increase my odds.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Im european and spent months (sometime years) in different european countries, I can give you the suggestions you need but you have to provide more infos about your desires and who you are.

The suggestions for a 20 yrs old white boy on a tight budget looking for easy sex and fun would be different then the ones for a 50yrs old man willing to spend money and looking for a wife, if you are 30yrs old black guy looking for some culture and entarteinment is different again.

A country which is a blessing for one is gonna be a curse for the other, also big cities are a good choice for one while the other can get what he wants in small ones.

 

[blind_one]

So you want to visit a socialist dystopia, the most feminist country in the world and a third world republic.

Spot on sadly

In Poland you could visit Toruń, old town is like the biggest pub/club hub in the entire country. Gdansk Sopot Gdynia = Tricity is like acoastal capital, during the day, sandy beaches, during the night, party time. If you are curious about the latter feel free to ask me as I live there. Could also help to organize some lodging for you. If you are on a tight budget I could even rent you a room.

 

[backseatjuan]

Cyprus, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Krimea, Sochi. Something like that, with dollar you will live it up there, maybe even if all those places visited, you could travel to one by plane and to others by boat. In Europe dollar costs nothing you the poor guy. Only Russians can travel to Europe and live it up, you are from the states, keep that in mind.

 

[thunder_god]

Im european and spent months (sometime years) in different european countries, I can give you the suggestions you need but you have to provide more infos about your desires and who you are.

The suggestions for a 20 yrs old white boy on a tight budget looking for easy sex and fun would be different then the ones for a 50yrs old man willing to spend money and looking for a wife, if you are 30yrs old black guy looking for some culture and entarteinment is different again.

A country which is a blessing for one is gonna be a curse for the other, also big cities are a good choice for one while the other can get what he wants in small ones.

29 year old East Asian male here. My budget is around $2000-2500 including flights and I'll be travelling alone. It will be my second time trying by myself and first time outside of North America. I'm kind of nervous and abit scared to be honest to be doing this solo but I'm sick of all my friends always making excuses as to why they can't go on vacation and me being penalised because I don't have anyone to go with. I'm looking to spend about 1-2 weeks preferably 1.5-2 weeks if I can do that on my budget. I'm looking to get away from my country for a bit to do some soul searching and get my mind off of my current academic situation at school. I'm looking to experience the local culture, visit some attractions, do some site seeing plus also do a little gaming as well. I choose those countries specifically because I did some research and people seemed to suggest those places if I want to have good odds of hooking up. I remember this past month as soon as I left Toronto, my chances with women increased dramatically when I visited the States. My buddy who has travelled a bit also mentioned that it seems to be mainly a Toronto issue where the females are extra *****y and stuckup. Anyways these are some of the links that I found that suggested those places:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2917.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-44121.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-18833.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2750-page-4.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2123.html

Now I'm not expecting girls to just drop their pantys when they see me out on the street but I would like to be treated like a normal human being that doesn't have the odds stacked against him and judged negatively just because of my race and the way the mass media has portrayed asians here. Ideally I would want to visit at least 2 countries where I can have a good time experiencing the local culture, having plenty of things to do, as well as gaming beautiful women. Also is not being able to speak the local language going to make things really difficult for me when travelling? I'm in the process of trying to obtain french lessons but if I were to go to somewhere else besides France I'm worried it might be a problem. Ideally I would want to avoid a countries that are racist towards Asians which I hear tends to be more in southern Europe.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

TG,

I have followed your journal a bit and it would be good for you to see the world and experience different cultures and womens. Good job for making the leap in to the unknown!

Depends when you're going, but any time between June-September, the south coast of Spain or the Canary Islands are rife with British people and hot chicks who are just up for a laugh. Don't take it serious, just go and have fun. Trust me, I had a lot of fun in these places. Also Zante in Greece is worth a visit - look for the typically touristy place to meet people. Lagana on Zakinthos is certainly a place to meet women.

Culture-wise, London, Paris, Rome are far enough out of the Americano Bubble for you to get a good taste. Would'nt spend more than a couple of days in each though, just to get a taster. PM me if you want more info. I've seen a lot of this side of the pond.

Also, to get between cities/countries in Europe, EasyJet and RyanAir are not so cheerful, but they cheap. In fact, Monarch might be cheapest and your flight is never more than 2-3 hours.

 

[Bokanovsky]

If you're going to Europe to get laid, you will probably be disappointed. I don't know who told that European women are crazy about Asian men. I think you will be better off going to a relatively poor Asian country (i.e. Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam) where you will have mad status as a "rich" asian from America.

 

[Who Dares Win]

29 year old East Asian male here. My budget is around $2000-2500 including flights and I'll be travelling alone. It will be my second time trying by myself and first time outside of North America. I'm kind of nervous and abit scared to be honest to be doing this solo but I'm sick of all my friends always making excuses as to why they can't go on vacation and me being penalised because I don't have anyone to go with. I'm looking to spend about 1-2 weeks preferably 1.5-2 weeks if I can do that on my budget. I'm looking to get away from my country for a bit to do some soul searching and get my mind off of my current academic situation at school. I'm looking to experience the local culture, visit some attractions, do some site seeing plus also do a little gaming as well. I choose those countries specifically because I did some research and people seemed to suggest those places if I want to have good odds of hooking up. I remember this past month as soon as I left Toronto, my chances with women increased dramatically when I visited the States. My buddy who has travelled a bit also mentioned that it seems to be mainly a Toronto issue where the females are extra *****y and stuckup. Anyways these are some of the links that I found that suggested those places:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2917.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-44121.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-18833.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2750-page-4.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-2123.html

Now I'm not expecting girls to just drop their pantys when they see me out on the street but I would like to be treated like a normal human being that doesn't have the odds stacked against him and judged negatively just because of my race and the way the mass media has portrayed asians here. Ideally I would want to visit at least 2 countries where I can have a good time experiencing the local culture, having plenty of things to do, as well as gaming beautiful women. Also is not being able to speak the local language going to make things really difficult for me when travelling? I'm in the process of trying to obtain french lessons but if I were to go to somewhere else besides France I'm worried it might be a problem. Ideally I would want to avoid a countries that are racist towards Asians which I hear tends to be more in southern Europe.

I guess by east asian you mean like a chinese/japanese look.

Thats for sure better than being a south asian, indians are probably the less desired type from girls in general, it doesnt help the fact that most indians at least in western europe dont perform well in terms of social position while in east europe are either cheap workers or sex tourists.

Cant really tell much about greece since Im not familiar with it.

In France you wont face any racism or any particular threat just because of your race and provenience however do not expect girls there to be particularly easy, they will be friendly once they find out you're american for sure more than you were chinese but if I were you I wouldnt bet on it.

Sweden cant really tell, I guess it depends on your smv and the ones of the girls, I believe that if you are reasonably attractive you should be able to get an average girl but again Im white and give the guido vibes for we could get different feedbacks.

Poland could be interesting, there could be some girl particularly attracted from you especially the average ones but at the same time you could face some possible racism, not necessarily from the girls but from the fact that they dont want to be seen with you, I saw all the possible things happening in Poland when it came of foreigners and non whites, better to bet on big cities in your case, while you lose the exotic bonus you surely run less risk of meeting unwelcoming people.

Baltic countries, forget about it, they've been plagued from sexual tourists from a decade and girls make a point of "taking revenge" against those who take advantage of local girls according to them also they are shamed from men in many cases, guys also could be quite racist altought people in general is polite and friendly yet the racist ones are the most active in my experience so even a small percentage can make the difference.
They are very nationalist just keep in mind that they are the ones doing their best to ignite tension with russia, no other former soviet country is pushing so hard.
Being american anyway could be a plus.

South Europe in general is not a good bet, girls are hard for everyone and even more for you if you look like the guys usually doing the crappy jobs there, dont be mad at me mate just being honest and you surely know how girls could be classist.

If I were you I would follow Bokanovsky advice, dont get me wrong you could be lucky and score everywhere you go but the odds are against you and its pointless to waste money on something that doesnt work.

Also keep in mind that in east europe in general, the girls that could be open to you are the same ones looking for a relationship or at least something lasting weeks which you cant provide since you are just passing by, that makes the difference in a lot of cases at least in my experience.

Cant help you with germany since never observed guys of your type there, but as a general rule if those that look like you have a stereotype its very likely that you will suffer from it, if all the asians in a country where wealthy business man it would have been different.

If you really want europe I would suggest you some international vacation place in east europe, people will be more open minded toward foreigners and free from the shaming that would receive home if seen with you.

Let me know if you need something to be elaborated further.

Regarding the money side, there are cheap train agreements for students which allow to travel in most Europe, regarding accommodation and life cost, eastern europe is surely cheaper as long as you dont visit international cities and capitals.

Also keep in mind that due to your age you are cut out from the erasmus student network parties and so on, if you were 20 it would have been much easier for you to find a sweet spot.

 

[thunder_god]

If you're going to Europe to get laid, you will probably be disappointed. I don't know who told that European women are crazy about Asian men. I think you will be better off going to a relatively poor Asian country (i.e. Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam) where you will have mad status as a "rich" asian from America.

Thing is I'm not attracted to asians. I've already had numerous asian girls dig me here in Canada but I turned them all down.

 

[donking]

Your best bet is hosteling and picking up the girls who are also traveling.

 

[thunder_god]

Your best bet is hosteling and picking up the girls who are also traveling.

Logistics is going to be a nightmare if I'm staying at a hostel. I don't think pulling the girl to my dorm room would work. I'm planning on getting my own apartment once I'm there. I'll probably do a combination of daygame and nightgame.

 

[thunder_god]

I guess by east asian you mean like a chinese/japanese look.

Thats for sure better than being a south asian, indians are probably the less desired type from girls in general, it doesnt help the fact that most indians at least in western europe dont perform well in terms of social position while in east europe are either cheap workers or sex tourists.

Cant really tell much about greece since Im not familiar with it.

In France you wont face any racism or any particular threat just because of your race and provenience however do not expect girls there to be particularly easy, they will be friendly once they find out you're american for sure more than you were chinese but if I were you I wouldnt bet on it.

Sweden cant really tell, I guess it depends on your smv and the ones of the girls, I believe that if you are reasonably attractive you should be able to get an average girl but again Im white and give the guido vibes for we could get different feedbacks.

Poland could be interesting, there could be some girl particularly attracted from you especially the average ones but at the same time you could face some possible racism, not necessarily from the girls but from the fact that they dont want to be seen with you, I saw all the possible things happening in Poland when it came of foreigners and non whites, better to bet on big cities in your case, while you lose the exotic bonus you surely run less risk of meeting unwelcoming people.

Baltic countries, forget about it, they've been plagued from sexual tourists from a decade and girls make a point of "taking revenge" against those who take advantage of local girls according to them also they are shamed from men in many cases, guys also could be quite racist altought people in general is polite and friendly yet the racist ones are the most active in my experience so even a small percentage can make the difference.
They are very nationalist just keep in mind that they are the ones doing their best to ignite tension with russia, no other former soviet country is pushing so hard.
Being american anyway could be a plus.

South Europe in general is not a good bet, girls are hard for everyone and even more for you if you look like the guys usually doing the crappy jobs there, dont be mad at me mate just being honest and you surely know how girls could be classist.

If I were you I would follow Bokanovsky advice, dont get me wrong you could be lucky and score everywhere you go but the odds are against you and its pointless to waste money on something that doesnt work.

Also keep in mind that in east europe in general, the girls that could be open to you are the same ones looking for a relationship or at least something lasting weeks which you cant provide since you are just passing by, that makes the difference in a lot of cases at least in my experience.

Cant help you with germany since never observed guys of your type there, but as a general rule if those that look like you have a stereotype its very likely that you will suffer from it, if all the asians in a country where wealthy business man it would have been different.

If you really want europe I would suggest you some international vacation place in east europe, people will be more open minded toward foreigners and free from the shaming that would receive home if seen with you.

Let me know if you need something to be elaborated further.

Regarding the money side, there are cheap train agreements for students which allow to travel in most Europe, regarding accommodation and life cost, eastern europe is surely cheaper as long as you dont visit international cities and capitals.

Also keep in mind that due to your age you are cut out from the erasmus student network parties and so on, if you were 20 it would have been much easier for you to find a sweet spot.

From my previous experience with dealing with East Europeans here in Canada, almost all of it has been positive. I usually get buying signals from Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian girls. I also had a foreign french chick dig me that I talked about in my journal but I fcuked that up but thats another story. I'm not visiting Europe with the soul intention of just trying to get laid, its meant as a away trip for me to take some time off of school to relieve my mind of my academic problems so that once I get back I will feel refreshed. Even if I don't get laid there, I think I'll still be happy to have taken a journey into the unknown. It's just that I read about all these stories from asian guys who visited those country and saw a huge flip in the script in terms of dating compared to North America. I listed several links to a few threads that I read about this in a few posts back. It would be good if another east asian can chime in on this topic. Here's another thread from someone else here on sosuave back in 2013 http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=202147. My boxing instructor who is half japanese half french told me that some of the girls there are into asian guys because of the japanese influence or something. He told me when he came to Toronto, the girls at clubs wouldn't even give him the time of the day compared to France because he looked Asian.

 

[Who Dares Win]

From my previous experience with dealing with East Europeans here in Canada, almost all of it has been positive. I usually get buying signals from Polish, Ukrainian, and Russian girls. I also had a foreign french chick dig me that I talked about in my journal but I fcuked that up but thats another story. I'm not visiting Europe with the soul intention of just trying to get laid, its meant as a away trip for me to take some time off of school to relieve my mind of my academic problems so that once I get back I will feel refreshed. Even if I don't get laid there, I think I'll still be happy to have taken a journey into the unknown. It's just that I read about all these stories from asian guys who visited those country and saw a huge flip in the script in terms of dating compared to North America. I listed several links to a few threads that I read about this in a few posts back. It would be good if another east asian can chime in on this topic. Here's another thread from someone else here on sosuave back in 2013 http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=202147. My boxing instructor who is half japanese half french told me that some of the girls there are into asian guys because of the japanese influence or something. He told me when he came to Toronto, the girls at clubs wouldn't even give him the time of the day compared to France because he looked Asian.

If those asian guys had such experiences and you trust them its a good news for you, as I said im white and I based my feedback on my observations, surely a real asian can tell you better since he observes such things on his skin.

One thing Im totally sure however is that it depends on who they are around, a girl surrounded from her open minded friends will be open to you, that same girl surrounded from her male friends from her group would be totally different in many cases.

But again if you trust those asian guys, the safest bet is to talk with them and let them tell you what it worked for them and where.
Anyway best of luck whatever you decided to do bro, I somehow can relate about being forced to play against the odds, wheter its because of race, height, social status and so on, also travelling alone (which I did also) could be stressful but surely will make you feel stronger if you manage to.

 

[thunder_god]

I don't think I'm going to go to sweden even though the price of flights aren't too bad. I'm going to get raped over their by the price of food and drinks, and accommodations. What do you guys think about Germany and which part of Germany do you recommend? I was thinking about either Hamburg or Berlin.

 

[thunder_god]

Spot on sadly

In Poland you could visit Toruń, old town is like the biggest pub/club hub in the entire country. Gdansk Sopot Gdynia = Tricity is like acoastal capital, during the day, sandy beaches, during the night, party time. If you are curious about the latter feel free to ask me as I live there. Could also help to organize some lodging for you. If you are on a tight budget I could even rent you a room.

I hear Sopot and Gdansk is only good during July and August due to all the girls heading out from all the cities to vacation. Is this true? Also what's it like in that area? I read on the Roosh V forum along with Roosh's book "Bang Poland" that Polish guys have no game and dress very sloppy, however there's a lot of Spanish guys who come over from Spain or England and pissed all over the cities making it a lot harder for everyone else. He also suggested that the best times to visit poland is in the spring and fall and to avoid it during the summer and winters. I have to admit though, your offer sounds very tempting. I visited another sosuave member last year when I did a solo trip to NYC and we went out sarging. I think it was the first time I ever went out sarging. Good times. If I had more time and money I'd definitely take you up on that offer.

 

[samspade]

So you want to visit a socialist dystopia, the most feminist country in the world and a third world republic?

Ok then.

It's just a vacation. I've visited plenty of places whose governments/cultures I don't agree with. Heck I live in one. Doesn't mean there aren't interesting things to see and people to meet.

 

[thunder_god]

Just booked my flights to Paris from June 18 and returning back to Canada on July 1st. I'm going to have to book a return trip from within Europe to another country. Sadly I couldn't find any cheap flights flying back from another European country. It was at least $300-400 more, so I said fcuk it I'll just take one of those budget european airplanes and return back to paris to save me a few hundred bucks.

Now I'm still undecided on where to go for my second country. I've narrowed it down to either Krakow (Poland), Budapest (Hungary), Vienna (Austria). Any suggestions on the following three choices?

 

[Mr.Positive]

Now I'm still undecided on where to go for my second country. I've narrowed it down to either Krakow (Poland), Budapest (Hungary), Vienna (Austria). Any suggestions on the following three choices?

Thunder, I can't speak for Hungary or Austria, but I've explored Poland a bit. Krakow has a lot of history and would be a good choice. If you want to save on money for food, eat where the locals do. Milk bars. Bar mleczny in Polish. Most of them have excellent food, cafeteria style which is great if you are traveling solo. Plus, the food is subsidized by the government and dirt cheap.

Regarding women, in my opinion, Polish women are the most beautiful I've seen. One in particular I stayed with for several days. They seem to have very welcoming personalities, smile a lot, and easy to approach. The hard part is that, at least when I was there, very few spoke English very well. So, communicating with them is an art learned though experience.

Let us know where you decide to go. If you want any other tips about traveling Poland, let me know as well.

 

[thunder_god]

Thunder, I can't speak for Hungary or Austria, but I've explored Poland a bit. Krakow has a lot of history and would be a good choice. If you want to save on money for food, eat where the locals do. Milk bars. Bar mleczny in Polish. Most of them have excellent food, cafeteria style which is great if you are traveling solo. Plus, the food is subsidized by the government and dirt cheap.

Regarding women, in my opinion, Polish women are the most beautiful I've seen. One in particular I stayed with for several days. They seem to have very welcoming personalities, smile a lot, and easy to approach. The hard part is that, at least when I was there, very few spoke English very well. So, communicating with them is an art learned though experience.

Let us know where you decide to go. If you want any other tips about traveling Poland, let me know as well.

Thanks I ended up booking a flight to Krakow based on your suggestion and a few others. We'll see how it goes. I'm a bit nervous about this trip as I'm only a beginner in French and don't speak a single word of Polish and I'm travelling solo. Quite the step outside of my comfort zone.

 

[backseatjuan]

If you still have money from Krakow come to Sochi, we'll sarge together.