plane ride...

[AIR-PILOT]

Originally posted by tryin 2 play
Air pilot,
those are all definitely attributes I possess. In every area of my life I am confident, just sometimes I have a hrd time portraying that with women...basically the only thing I get nervous doing. I box and kickbox competitively, so all my boys say that I should be so confident around girls because I go through that sh!t everyday. For some reason it doesn't carry over. anyway, I am working on getting my confidence across to chicks, just havin a tough time. Oh well i'm gonan stop complainin boutthis now and keep tryin to step itt up.

thanks

What exactly are you having difficulty in portraying? You can't approach women? explain.

 

[Vandermast]

So how did it turn out tryin 2 play?

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

trying 2 play, let me ask you something, the first time you flew a plane were u nervous?

what about the first time you were trying to learn how to drive?

what about the first fight you had?

In all the three above scenarios you were nervous. But what happened over time as you kept practicing your skills to fly or to drive or to fight? You kept getting better until you came to a point where you didnt think about it but you just did it. The same principle applies to women. You just gotta keep at it. You come on this website, you learn some new method like saying her name quite a bit while talking to the woman, you go out there and practice till it becomes a habbit. Its just like flying a plane. If you can fly a plane you can get the chicks. Which out of the above two were meant to be natural for us?

 

[nishbuk]

I think that you're viewing the value of your date as less than it actually is. Remember, that people's reactions are relative. If they are not expecting something out of the ordinary, then you have raised the value of your date 10-fold!
In short, DON'T TELL HER that you are pilot. Tell her you want to take her out. When she asks, just ask her to have a quick bite to eat (I don't like dinner dates, but think of an action date instead that is short). Then when that's over, just simply be like, "Hey I've got a great idea. Come with me". Then you still don't have to tell her where you are going. And when she finally realizes that she is going to fly, and YOU are the pilot, when she hadn't the foggiest idea before, the positive shock value increases 100%. GL!

 

[tryin 2 play]

Air Pilot...yah defintely having trouble approaching women, but its just because I haven't tried much. I have done a few small things, but kinda pu$$ied out. I just have to do it more. However, even with girls I know I don't think I come across as very confident. Others would describe me as that, but I doubt that girls I find attractive do. I think its nerves so I jus gotta keep workin on it

Assasin...that advice really made a lot of sense to me. The first time I went to land a plane my palms were sweating! I was so nervous. The first fight I had, I almost wanted to back out and say forget it. But youre right, flying seems so easy now, I dont get nervous. Still a little nervous before fights but everyone is that way, although a hell of a lot less nervous than before!! So yah I guess it's just gonna be more and more practice. Ive had a few girlfriends and fvck buddies, but they were always girls I knew were interested in me, so I found it easy. Without definte interest, i tend to not be so good. Well sorry for rambling guys thanks

 

[AIR-PILOT]

Originally posted by tryin 2 play
Air Pilot...yah defintely having trouble approaching women, but its just because I haven't tried much. I have done a few small things, but kinda pu$$ied out. I just have to do it more. However, even with girls I know I don't think I come across as very confident. Others would describe me as that, but I doubt that girls I find attractive do. I think its nerves so I jus gotta keep workin on it

Ok dude don't worry... I can help you out.
How old are you and where are you from?

 

[tryin 2 play]

Hey man,

I am 19...from livin in massachusetts

 

[AIR-PILOT]

Originally posted by tryin 2 play
Hey man,

I am 19...from livin in massachusetts

So you have a problem approaching women, NORMAL, we all do...
practice, practice, practice.
The thing with you is that you have so many good things to your advantage.
Again I will state what YOU have.. you might not see this, but you DO have all these
1. Motivation
2. Goals
3. Passion
4. Intelligence..

I didn't put in Confidence this time, this is what you are lacking..

My best advice would be to attack women with those 4 qualities..
before you go up to a women, think to yourself .. i know who I am, I know what I want to do in Life , and then ATTACK. Open up a conversation with a smile and a nice "hey, what's up" and take it from there. Now this is the tricky part, what I like to do is to go into conversations with females like I have no desire for them, What I basically mean is I talk to them and look at them just like I would talk to my buddy. Now this will fool them, "why is this guy acting like this, how come he isnt all over me like the others" , or "finally a guy who isnt lookin at me like he wants to harrass me" .

You will fail A LOT of times .. but heck who cares, HAVE FUN .. you have ONE LIFE to LIVE.

Just a little info on me..
I got my CPL when I was 18 ... you should of seen me, my attitude about life changed immediately and I saw results.

 

[tryin 2 play]

Air Pilot,

thansk for replying. So I guess I will just have to get tthis practice in talking to chicks...no way around it! When you say you open up conversations acting like you have no interest, are you talking about cold approaches or girls you know or both? Just wondering. Man when I got my PPL I felt on top of the world, I can't imagine when I get my CPL! The only problem is, it does not carry over into talking to girls, I can't keep it with me. But I think with practice and time it will come, I am much more comfortable around girls now then before, but still got a long ways to go.
Thanks again you have been real helpful.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Originally posted by tryin 2 play
About a year ago I got my pilot's license to fly small planes, and I would like to take her up as maybe a first date or something.

F*ck that's like the coolest date idea I've ever heard of. Its a bonus too because she doesn't have to do anything dangerous, like jump off a cliff.

Um, on your question, just say "Hey, I'm taking my plane for a quick whizz around <place name>, wanna come along?". Simple, quick, and you won't get rejected. Just don't crash the plane or anything, most girls don't want their first date to end in a ball of fiery death, no matter how exciting that sounds.

Originally posted by Deadly_Assassin
But the airforce pilots have the best uniform.

Yeah but air force pilots are gay, so getting women isn't something they do.

 

[AIR-PILOT]

Re: Re: plane ride...

Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
Yeah but air force pilots are gay, so getting women isn't something they do.

Whoever told you that is an idiot...
I am not an Air Force Pilot
But my buddy is and he flies F-16s and he is dating a Playboy model from Greece.

Far from gay.

 

[AIR-PILOT]

Originally posted by tryin 2 play
Air Pilot,

thansk for replying. So I guess I will just have to get tthis practice in talking to chicks...no way around it! When you say you open up conversations acting like you have no interest, are you talking about cold approaches or girls you know or both? Just wondering. Man when I got my PPL I felt on top of the world, I can't imagine when I get my CPL! The only problem is, it does not carry over into talking to girls, I can't keep it with me. But I think with practice and time it will come, I am much more comfortable around girls now then before, but still got a long ways to go.
Thanks again you have been real helpful.

I don't mean cold approaches, just go in giving the girls the vibe that you are not out to harrass them. Go in with confidence and with a smile that says hey I just wanted to introduce myself, not the look that means hey I want to get laid.

 

[Pilot]

Air Force pilots are gay huh? WTF do you do for a living, you ass? I can pretty much guarantee your job isn't nearly as cool as my job. Sheesh, some people.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

Yeah but air force pilots are gay

I am sure back home in my country they are not gay but they are definetly alcoholics.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

WTF do you do for a living, you ass? I can pretty much guarantee your job isn't nearly as cool as my job. Sheesh, some people.

dude, calm down. comments like that just makes you look more immature than the other guy.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

The only problem is, it does not carry over into talking to girls, I can't keep it with me

ok this is what I do. If its someone new I start asking them the questions like what do u study, where abouts etc... ( everyone does ) Now of course the girl is gonna ask you the same thing as well. This is when I say to them "have a guess". And give them slight hints and stuff. And when they get the answer I just smile. This gives you a chance to talk about flying, something you love and she is interested in knowing about. If you truly love flying trust me it will just automatically show. Just the way you look at a planes and talk about flying tells people how much you are into your flying.

But you have to remember its not being a pilot that makes you a stud. I know some guys who are pilots and are hopeless with chicks. They get lucky once in a while because they are pilots. Some things that I think are important attritibutes to have as a man are and not just to get the chicks:

1)be sure of yourself and always believe in yourself. I mean truly believe. I am talking about truly believing that flying is the only thing for you in the world. Nothing can replace it. It is your main goal in life and is your motivation, your drive to fight, to succeed, to win... never give up

2)know what you want in life; focus on your goals not on the chicks, the chicks will come and go but you only have one chance at your dreams

3)have a passion and just like Pook once said, the death of this passion would be the death of a man's soul; aka your flying, or going to the gym, or kickboxing

4)sense of humour. This shows whether you are truly enjoying life or not. Theres always a funny side of things.

5)Smile

I think these are the core attritibutes every male must posses. But these days guys with all 5 attritibutes are very hard to find. You will find pretenders but the real ones are rare. Work on these things and you will enjoy life without the girls. When the girls see this they will no longer look at you as an average bloke but as a real man. One who stands out from the crowd.

 

[tryin 2 play]

Um, on your question, just say "Hey, I'm taking my plane for a quick whizz around <place name>, wanna come along?". Simple, quick, and you won't get rejected. Just don't crash the plane or anything, most girls don't want their first date to end in a ball of fiery death, no matter how exciting that sounds.

Hey I think ill end up sayin something like that to her...I will see her saturday or wednesday, so ill most likely use that line.

Assasin...you got some good points man, you have been making it seem so easy im thinkin that maybe im makin a bigger deal out of it then it really is. Maybe im havin trouble cuz i work with her n dnt wanna make it weird? Ive hoked up w/ other co workers in the past so maybe that is just a lame exscuse lol.

Same with you air pilot...I will remember the confidence when i speak to them, maybe remind myself of it right before i do. Big help from all of yah

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

tryin 2 play, theres a few ways you could do it. You could tell her you have surprise for her or something and just take her flying. Could you tell us more details on how you interact with the chick and her interest and stuff...

 

[tryin 2 play]

Well it is a work setting, so I only get a few seconds here and there to talk to her because of customers, bosses getting upset, etc... Sometimes when she is there I don't get to talk with her at all cuz it can be so busy. Also, we can't take lunch at the same time, because management wants a certain employees to cover others, so that doesn't work out. I might be able to walk out with her when we leave, if I time it right and all that. Other than that it is just a few mintutes here and there. She seems to ask me questions about myself when we talk, and seemed somewhat interested in the flying. So, without much time to talk too much, should I just ask her, the same way you would with any other girl. Or should I take my time cuz I know I will see her at work. What would you recommend as the best way to ask?

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

just wait for the window of opportunity to come, it will come, just be patient and then chat her up.