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picked up spanish chick in mall but might have LJBF'd myself?

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approached this spanish chick in the mall who was working in the center. her english was pretty good but i tried to be slick by picking up in spanish..

i did ok, usual chit chat, found out that she only been here a little while and didn't really know anyone apart from her work colleagues.

this is bad territory.. 1 cos usually when they dont know anyone their priority is to make friends rather than a lover. how do you get past this?

it's like she auto LJBF's you cos she needs a friend more..

so i try to be slick, use my usual line of asking if she's married, she laughs then i follow up that it's good and we should go for a drink. but cos i did it in spanish the translation did not come out exactly how it should be so she was reciting/translating what i was saying into english and correcting my grammar/mistakes lol

when i asked for her number.. i said that wrong too and i think at that point it seemed like she didn't 'get' what i was doing.. anyway i got her number and we're meeting up soon.

how do i turn this from a LJBF meeting to a full on date?
 

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pete101 said:
approached this spanish chick in the mall who was working in the center. her english was pretty good but i tried to be slick by picking up in spanish..

i did ok, usual chit chat, found out that she only been here a little while and didn't really know anyone apart from her work colleagues.

this is bad territory.. 1 cos usually when they dont know anyone their priority is to make friends rather than a lover. how do you get past this?

it's like she auto LJBF's you cos she needs a friend more..

so i try to be slick, use my usual line of asking if she's married, she laughs then i follow up that it's good and we should go for a drink. but cos i did it in spanish the translation did not come out exactly how it should be so she was reciting/translating what i was saying into english and correcting my grammar/mistakes lol

when i asked for her number.. i said that wrong too and i think at that point it seemed like she didn't 'get' what i was doing.. anyway i got her number and we're meeting up soon.

how do i turn this from a LJBF meeting to a full on date?
From the sound of it it doesn't seem like she LJBF'd you. Just hang out with her and let her know you're interested but also let her know you're checking her out too.
 

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i should have mentioned that when i initially tried to get her number.. and she didn't understand and was just translating out loud what i was saying into english.. other people could hear.. it was a bit embarassing.

then she went to queue to pay for her gift.. i was still in the middle of trying to get her number so i was queuing with her.. (i know very afc esp since i wasn't buying anything!) then she gave me her number but it wasn't local, it was 1 from back home and she was telling me how she doesn't answer her phone cos it costs her so much to receive.

at that point i should have split but i felt i needed to get her email address in case she made a mistake in the number she was giving me cos she wasn't sure of the international code/removing the 0.. etc etc..

anyway i f'd up cos when we got close to the till she asked 'aren't u going to buy something?' i thought.. 'fvck..' and proceeded to leave the queue and look around. our convo during the queuing was ok but more about where she was living in london.. just so happens she lives like 5 mins walk from where i live! anyway the guy in front kept turning around looking at me.. it was a bit awkward.

the queuing with her even after i got her number was a DLV right?

as she paid i was at the exit and tried as smoothly as i could to leave with her without seeming like i purposely positioned myself there.

i chatted a bit more.. told her i thought spanish chicks were sexy etc.. she must know what i meant rather than talking in a 3rd person, just seem as if she was oblivious to my intentions, i found out when she wasn't working cos of the xmas sales and said i'd call her, then left.
 
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