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picked up a girl in post office, but did her IL dropped and i failed?

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long story short, i met this HB in post office talked to her outside, she gave me her number but reluctantly it seems, then i carried on talking after she gave the number instead of splitting cos i felt her IL wasn't high enough, i forgot she was in a rush so i may have been DLV'ing myself prolonging it.

did i fail?

the whole story is below
 

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full story: i was in line at the post office and this stunning HB came in line behind me, i was looking really shabby, i was stressed out, clothes weren't as fresh as they should be wasn't wearing afershave, needed a shave etc. i basically looked rather unkept.

anyway i started talking to her about postal service throwing a few jokes in, then questions about where she's from,she around here etc.

then i was next in line so the convo got cut short. we left at the same time but she was ahead of me so it was a bit awkward coming in from behind to talk to her.. felt like it was a DLV.

anyway we start talking, i try spitting game i made a few jokes negged her a bit about her adopting the local accent. was doing quite well, i knew she was in a rush to be somewhere so i should have realised this sooner rather than carrying chatting. i kept interrupting what she was saying cos i felt i needed to get certain lines in to demonstrate my interest. it didn't reflect well, i think her IL was mid range but then i go for the kill i go to her 'so you married? ;)' she laughs and says 'no, im too young' she must have suspected the follow on, i go 'thats good that means we can go for a drink sometime ;)' (tho i didn't say it as confidently or as coy as i usually do) before i let her speak i interrupted her and talked about a great place i know in a nice part of town.. i think she was about to say 'well..' then i go for the number exchange. i could tell this took her by surprise as it's like 'i've just spoken to this guy in the post office for 2 mins then hes talking to me outside the post office for 5 mins, im in a rush now hes asking for my number.. oh no.'

she complied but seemed like she reluctantly gave it, she didnt have her phone on her at the time so i took hers, she initially asked if i was from around here as in i'll probably see u around sometime.. i thought no, then went for the kill in regards to the number.. wasn't very suave admittedly i detected IL dropping. instead of splitting i tried chatting more to increase IL forgetting she's in a rush and so should i.. she suddenly announces 'hey i need to go cos im in a rush..' then i interrupt her and go 'yeah so do i' talking really fast and a bit anxious realising i made the mistake of talking too long so i kissed her cheek and said i'd call her, but she didn't say 'ok' or anything to encourage me. i think i ruined it by talking too fast and too much.

she may have a bf, but she didn't tell me.. i duno if she's 1 of these types who gives out her number but think she's just meeting people cos i detected she regretted giving her number as she was giving it.. maybe a bf, i duno guilt perhaps. or maybe a fake number. we'll see. i got the impression she was in the mindset of 'oh im relatively new to london have lots of friends but it doesnt hurt to meet more'

i also told her im leaving the country in month and a half.. when u tell a girl this is that a good or a bad thing in her eyes? as in she doesn't think you're going to be around long so whats the point getting involved cos if i like him i'll just get hurt?

anyway in your opinion do you think i failed after doing all the hard work?

admittedly i didn't neg her or C+F as well as i normally did, marginal kino. if i had just paced myself i had the natural lingo, the interrupting overshadows it all.

she hasn't got my number so when i call i guess i'll need to increase her IL again?
 

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thanks that's reassuring BUT because i went on and on after i got the number.. knowing she needs to be off somewhere could her IL level drop dramatically cos when i kissed her goodbye and saying i'll call her she didn't respond or say 'ok' to encourage me.. this is bad right?

it's like i raised interest, then dropped it. BUT also remember i get the impression she may be looking to meet new people as in friends from around the area.. i asked her initially where she usually goes out in town to see if we match, then i started naming all these nice places i go to and if she's been and somewhat inviting her out.. but not necessarily asking her out.. hence why i went for the 'so u married?' to make sure my intention was clear.

i had this feeling she might be thinking 'oh well he'll invite me out with his friends and i'll bring my friends etc etc' this is what i wanted to avoid. LJBF stuff. when she realised what i was doing about the number she was going to write down the number on her pad (she had no phone on her) i interjected and was like 'its cool just give me your number', and i was like 'wheres your phone.. arent u girls always surgically attached to theirs? ;) haha'

i went also for her facebook, but she didnt use it.. i felt that IF she gave me a fake number but then maybe regretted it after i could somehow contact her. but if she gave me a fake number then she wasn't interested anyway?

hey, sometimes girls regret things after.. and go into rejection mode cos they feel awkward giving out their number.. i talked the talk but i looked so shabby it didn't match up with someone who goes to nice places.
 

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Way Over Thinking This

I CAN APPRECIATE wanting to perfect your daygame.............but over analyzing is counter-productive.

Naturals dont do it, so just let it flow..........we all know the key to picking up women is not approaching them with any agenda other than to socialize.

Day game is quite differnt than a nightclub/bar.........durring the day a great deal of people are constantly in a rush. Mystery said daygaming is slower....I beg to differ day game is much faster.

U got her number but now U need to follow up. Her interest level may seem low because of the speed in which U extracted it.........par for the course while day gaming.

So what can U do now: U gots the number ..........USE IT, text her first then has a SHORT phone call..........keep it simple, INCORPORATE some of the negs from the initial meeting.

TEXT EXAMPLE ----"I went postal on your A SS"

PHONE NEG- "so do U always give complete strangers your phone number",

the purpose of follow call is to establish an memory anchor, re-connect the rapport, build the date potential.

leave it vague, no specifics, then a day or so later..........go for the meet n greet simple date.

remember.........dont get all wrapped up in 1 chic, continue with the extracting numbers in line.........great skill to have.

Going on an a instant date from a chic U just met is difficult, calling right away may seem despret.

U already know the steps..........get digits get going...........no need to overstay your welcome. Too fast and its too awkward......ever see those guys that walk right up to women and say "HEY BABY U IS HOT, CAN I GET YOUR NUMBER"..........gotta build that rapport in order to earn that number.

again cant stress it enough...............dont over think this.........mission accomplished.

GET THE DIGITS, THEN GET GOING............nuff said.
 

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yeah im overfocusing too much on what i did wrong, it's more to help me learn next time, or tonight in fact when i go sarging.

having said that i was caught in two minds, i felt her interest level dropped so i had to salvage the situation cos i knew that if i called she may just not be receptive, tho it backfired. cos thinking back.. yeah.. getting the number and splitting was better, interest level was higher than it was at the end.

anyway, given my discretions, best time to call would be day after xmas?
 

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thinking back.. she seemed displeased that i kept her hanging there so long after i got the number. she probably felt that i wasn't going to leave so when she announces she had to go she seemed a bit annoyed/didn't want to be rude.. me talking fast and saying 'oh yeah me too.' sounding anxious just sounds not believable even tho it was true.

can keeping a girl on longer after you've got the number ruin all your hard work previously despite getting the number?
 

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drift king said:
she complied but seemed like she reluctantly gave it, she didnt have her phone on her at the time so i took hers, she initially asked if i was from around here as in i'll probably see u around sometime.. i thought no, then went for the kill in regards to the number.. wasn't very suave admittedly i detected IL dropping. instead of splitting i tried chatting more to increase IL forgetting she's in a rush and so should i.. she suddenly announces 'hey i need to go cos im in a rush..' then i interrupt her and go 'yeah so do i' talking really fast and a bit anxious realising i made the mistake of talking too long so i kissed her cheek and said i'd call her, but she didn't say 'ok' or anything to encourage me. i think i ruined it by talking too fast and too much.

she hasn't got my number so when i call i guess i'll need to increase her IL again?
Whoa dude chill out. You got her phone number which is all that matters. If you are this stressed out about how long and the tone of the way you talked to her, what are you doing to do when you want to kiss her and have sex with her?

Once you got the number, you should have split like a banana. Otherwise, you seem O.K.
 

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i think it's more to do with the fact that im trying to perfect my technique.. and obviously i failed by not splitting after i got the digits.

now given that has happened i have to rethink how i approach her with the phone call etc given that she seemed annoyed i was keeping her there talking.

im sure she'd understand but still the fact she had to tell me she had to go in a blunt way reflects badly on me..

hypothetically when i call and she can't talk there and then and says 'she'll call you back' and doesn't.. how long should you wait before you follow up?

cos i usually need to psyche myself up before i call to make sure it goes well and if she doesn't take it or cant talk there and then, it's like an anti climax.
 

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drift king said:
long story short, i met this HB in post office talked to her outside, she gave me her number but reluctantly it seems, then i carried on talking after she gave the number instead of splitting cos i felt her IL wasn't high enough, i forgot she was in a rush so i may have been DLV'ing myself prolonging it.

did i fail?

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She was in a rush. There are times when girls are open to your advances and times when they aren't. When they're in a rush, they aren't. And when they aren't, don't worry if you fail because it isn't your fault at all. Nothing you can do about her situation.
 

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drift King said:
i was in line at the post office and this stunning HB came in line behind me, i was looking really shabby, i was stressed out, clothes weren't as fresh as they should be wasn't wearing afershave, needed a shave etc. i basically looked rather unkept.

Yeah theres way to much thinking going on.


The right mindset is the most important thing. Concentrate on getting that right and everything else will follow. It's ok to go into detail after when you're alone but once again, usually you'll find it's mindset thats most important.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Smack said:
She was in a rush. There are times when girls are open to your advances and times when they aren't. When they're in a rush, they aren't. And when they aren't, don't worry if you fail because it isn't your fault at all. Nothing you can do about her situation.
i got her number though.. so she was open?

it's just that i hanged on too long after i got the number not realising she was in a rush that i may have DLV'd myself or looked desperate.
 

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the number was fake, it didn't ring.

unless i took it down wrong. but i doubt it.
 

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Just shows u whats the point in thinking if the il was high or not. For all u know the number could b fake or better yet a flake. Theres no reason to over think if she likes ya or not just don't worry and do ur thing and how she feels is totally up to her. This isn't bad at all, its a lesson that someone has gave u lucky enough. An angel in disguise i suppose u can say.
 

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drift king said:
the number was fake, it didn't ring.

unless i took it down wrong. but i doubt it.
Probably kuz you were unkempt...shows you can't take care of her! She didn't wanna hurt your feelings directly and she wasn't into you from the get go.
 
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