"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Phone number to date (flaking, fourth question)

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So just 2 months ago, learning the truth about girls through these websites, I've tried to cure my AFC tendencies, making nice progress. I have been getting a few phone numbers now, fun. Then I reach my next brick wall.


I've tried to get about four girls to hang out with me. 100%flaking ratio. I call them, and they either never answer, or blow me off when I try to talk (I'm busy, goodbye). It's starting to get quite annoying, especially since I have not been doing anything AFC lately; I only made that mistake with the first one (since then, I made sure I didn't call a girl too often, once a week). And I am sure they are not busy either (the first has never answered her phone. I just learn today from my friend that she knows I call her, and told my friend I come on too strong). Ouch. The last one, a senior, actually agrees to go with me for some food, then doesn't show, leaving me hanging in the rain.



What is the problem here, I was guessing my initial game isn't strong enough, or they'd have more incentive to hang out, or go on dates. Any thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It's the numbers game man, find new chicks. You're running though the same ones that already expressed no interest, why keep digging a hole?

Man, and this is total BS
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Yes, that is a fast solution. But it doesn't help if the new girls I meet do that to me also.

So what do you guys do to make sure girl is eager to call or recieve a call from you, besides intense DJ'ing skills?
 

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Being a guy that acts as more then a friend from the start (letting them know from the start you aren't a friendly guy), cool to hang out with, attractive and best of all....

He's you ;)
 

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Reevaluate your approach. And like doc said, let them know your sexually interested.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Okay, how to you suggest smarting a phone conversation to not get blown out with the "I'm busy" automatic girl response as soon as you open your mouth.

If I'm calling them without a context, I always start with "How is going?" which always gets returned with "I'm busy, can I call you back later?"

I see that starting this way is horrible, but I can't figure out how to not start this way with no context.
 

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First of all you dont call just to say "How are you doing?" or how you put it, "How is going?". Phone calls are to schedule "appointments", or 'dates'. Think of it in terms of you being 'the Doctor', and the girl is your 'client'. You set up a date based on what is good with your time, and state the place and what you pretty much have planned (make sure you sound convincing and thrilled, but dont over do it). This way you can easily get the girl to think quickly on her toes and thats a good thing. The less time they have to think, the better for you to take action. And we all know that action is every girl's weakpoint. If she rejects your offers constantly, reject her and move on to the next target.

And as for you being "AFC". The best way to change that is not only change your mindset and goals, but to always 'keep busy'. I'm sure you have plenty of hobbies that you love spending your time on, or hanging with friends. That way, you also have less time to think. Because we all know when we are sitting home alone at night doing nothign but either on the computer or watching tv, we start feeling depressed, or lonely. Thats when our inner "AFC" starts talking to us. Don't listen, and just man up. Take action. And the world is yours.
 
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