"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Phone number, check. What next?

William Wallace

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Hi, I've been reading this board for a few days but here is my first post.

I met this girl from philosophy class (both as freshman), and I just saw her yesterday on campus.

Using DJ advice, I approached her with a nice smile, said "hi / how's school / what's your schedule like / etc" finished off with "Listen, I gotta run, but I think you're a really cool girl and I'd like to see you again sometime, so you should give me your number."

Willingly, she writes down her number on a notepad and pen that was ready to go from my pocket.

I'd really like to hear from members of this board about this situation. Should I call after 3 days? Or wait longer? What should I say in our first phone call? I want to ask her out, but I don't have any experience asking girls out over the phone. My past girlfriends have always been friends with me before we dated.,

I should mention that, although we're both really fluent in english, there may be a cultural gap. She comes from a european (russian) background, while I'm a chinese born canadian.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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William Wallace

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Originally posted by Grey Fox
Here's something that might help. Though I admit its plugging my own advice. But it sounds you have the same problems most guys face their first time out with a girl, with being nervous and what not.

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31426&highlight=Guide+First+Date
Cheers. thanks for the advice Grey Fox, that was a good thread

I've been reading more around the forums and noticed contradicting advise on phone calls:

- Some say calling after 2-4 days is optimum, some say more (5+) is better, some say there shouldn't be any DJ rules for this matter.

- What if I get the machine? Should I leave a message?

- I know she doesn't have a car (her parents still drive her around), and she has to bus around if she were to meet me on a date. If I set up a date, should I pick her up at her house? Or is it too early to pick her up? BTW I don't even know where she lives heh

- What are some good things to say in the first phone call?

Thanks :)
 

Hollowpoint

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After you get the phone number, try to get address and more personal financial imformation. All about getting to know the person better.....



Duh duh.......have you read the DJ Bible AT ALL?

http://sucs.org/~nicholas/djb/index.php

Download, "Weapons of Mass Seduction" by Senor Fingers, well written, intelligent and helpful.
 

Crank_It_Up

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Originally posted by William Wallace
- What if I get the machine? Should I leave a message?
Yep... something like this

Hey girl, this is (your name). An old friend of mine let me use his dad's ferrari tonight, wanna go for a ride? Hello, anyone there? (pause) Oh well, sorry I missed you, maybe next time, cya.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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