Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Phone games.. what the hell girls?

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Originally posted by Oxide
I am amazed..this seems to happen almost every single time.


I meet a girl..in class or wherever.. i talk to her, it's great, we seem to be connecting...smiling.. everything is great.

Then i get her number... and as soon as i call her, on the phone she turns into one of those "I am not sure im interested" chicks.

It is fukking puzzling to me. I am relaxed on the phone.... it seems like when you call a girl, she feels like you are "just another guy" and puts up some kind of front.. where in person it is MUCH MUCH easier to get rapport.

I mean, i honestly dont believe their interest dissapears after i leave their sight... this is one of the reasons i dont talk on the phone with a girl. for more than 5 minutes..unless i've known her for a long time.



Is this happening to anyone else, cause this is seriously ridiculous.
They put their damned "game face" on. They get this idea in their head, "Oooh I like him...I have to screw around with him a little because that's what Cosmo says to do." So they chase you off with flaky behavior because they're stupid and don't know any better.

This is why women end up with losers.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I had a girl awhile back showing me all kinds of crazy interest, and she offered me her phone number.

Called the first time to see if she wanted to go out.......car problem. Phone me back and we'll arrange an alternative time.

Phoned back, "I'm having a lazy day". Let's get together on Tuesday.

Phone her Tuesday, no answer. I didn't leave her a message.

So I didn't bother phoning her again.

Next time I saw her she gave me serious attitude. "Wasn't someone supposed to call me on Tuesday?"

Me: "I did call, you didn't answer."

"Well, you could have left a message."

Me: "You got your three phone calls. You won't get anymore. You blew it, nice knowing you."
 

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Happened to me only today...a little while ago I would have been gutted about it, but now I just shrug it off and think "its your loss, honey"...

Dont get stuck in that p-ssy trance m8...
 

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Spike the Dragon and Oxide, I share your experience. I was ticked in the beginning. But at least I now learn that girls may act like they like you, and it lead you to misinterpret them.

I've never had such success with strangers. If I can succeed on this area, I move to a higher level in life.

I did have success however on chatline. On chatline, chat girls get to know you, then call you, then get to know you, then visit you. This it has worked.

Strangers at restaurants, clubs, it just has never worked for me. It doesn't work for me to the point that I think guys who succede in this area must be studs. They are.
 

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Nice to know it's not just me. Awhile back I finally got pissed and just went through my phone deleting numbers. I stopped trying to get new ones because the same thing happened every time. I just don't leave messages now.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Rollo Tomassi, i see what you wrote, but guys in this thread have an idea of what they are doing with women, so we really dont need all those things you wrote.. thanks for input anyway


MIndovermatter, that is a VERY interesting suggestion, taking her out. I sometimes play it that way, but at the same time when i ask a girl for her number she gets why i'm asking, it isnt to chit chat... ;)


Don Juanabbe, i dont think this girl was trying to necessarily fukk you, i'd call her one more time.. if she comes up with an excuse you drop her.


Haha, i was reading ladiesssman's reply about clubs... It seems it is easier for me to make out with a girl and let her grind on top of me than to actually get her on a date after i get her number... no sh1t... come to think about it... i'd say 9 out of 10 girls would flake over the phone after i got their digits in the club... interesting. However, i know of many occassions where girls would follow through on the call and end up hooking up.


Zoso. I've deleted so many numbers from my number it's crazy... everytime you press that "erase" button you either think "Fukk you bi1ch" or "Dammnit i wish we hooked up" which is bascially the same thing ;) :p

No matter how cool and confident you are, if a girl you like rejects you, you will feel a little dissapointed, dont be feared by it. Accept it as part of human nature, and move on.
 

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Seduce and destroy...

Too much too soon is the problem here. These girls simply don't feel comfortable enough to really open up yet. I'm gonna try a little experiment with that same girl next time I see her.

I've shown her my ****y side, now I'm gonna play it kinda soft with an apology. I'm not gonna kiss her ass or anything, I'm just gonna play with her a little more. Once she opens up a little, I'll retreat and she will follow. ;)


I know it doesn't sound very "DJ" of me, but I feel like giving it another shot. I think I'm giving up way too easily on this one... after all, I'd be a chump not to test my skills on her a little more.:cool:
 

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I am having this exact same issure right now and it's mind boggling!!

I met a girl from online last week and we went to a coffee shop to meet up. We had a great convo and found out we had a lot in commont...it was one of the best dates I had in a while. Then, we're leaving and she is the one to say "we'll have to get together again sometime."...so I'm thinking game on...I hug her for kino effect and we depart.

So I call her yesterday and get no response...3 hours later she e-mails and says it was late so thats why she didn't call back....ok so I ignore her e-mail. I call her up again today in the afternoon (this girl told me she IS NOT BUSY at all), no answer. She had about 7 hours to call back and still hasn't! WTF!!

Don't worry about calling me on AFC stuff...I have about 6 other numbers and I'm working something for Thurs/Fri...this is just a case of something I cannot understand for the life of me.

This girl seemed very straightforward...she's from a very small town in the midwest..I don't know, are they traditional and game players out there?? She didn't strike me as the type to play games and I know she was interested so WTF????
 
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