"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ElStud

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Alright, so far practice, I asked my friend to give me a couple numbers of girls to call. I called all of them and the ones that did pick up didn't really go anywhere. Mostly sh*t ended in awkward silence or I just got bored of talking to her and hung up.

But yeah, how should you go about calling up girls you don't really know? Like, how can you start a conversation on the phone without seeming desperate or showing too much interest? I want know this.

And I'm not looking for general convo skills, as when talking to girls I don't know in person, I can usually get interest. However, the phone is a different thing. And really, I do honestly believe that a few of the girls were just b*tches.

Most of the convos were just "Hey! Who is this?" with me talking like I had a lot of energy. Then she would either say her name or ask who I am. Haha, some of these girls don't know English though. Swear I had to tell a couple of girls my name 5 times before they got it.

So how can I improve my phone game? What IS good phone game?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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marinetti

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Good phone game is simply getting the girl to meet up with you at a later date.

Are these number closes that you are trying to convert? If so, I'd recommend you try closing them by facebook friending them instead. This gives them the chance to facebook stalk you, find out about you, and then you can invite them out through their wall or private messaging. I actually don't ask for numbers anymore unless we make concrete plans to do something at a later time - instead, I get their name and facebook them later.

As for randomly calling girls that don't really know you... that seems a little weird.
 
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Why would you call girls whose numbers you dont have? How do you not seem desperate? Dont get numbers from your friend. You cant call girls you dont know. Man, you act like you have game, but again, youre demonstrating that you havent learned anything in the past 5 years. Dude, just pull your head out of your ass. Most of this stuff isnt that hard.
 
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Dude, you're asking friends to give you girls numbers from their phone as practice?

That is the lamest thing I've ever heard. You are never gonna get laid dude.

Take up model airplanes or something.
 
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Alle_Gory

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ElStud said:
Alright, so far practice, I asked my friend to give me a couple numbers of girls to call. I called all of them and the ones that did pick up didn't really go anywhere. Mostly sh*t ended in awkward silence or I just got bored of talking to her and hung up.
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Put yourself in her shoes. Some random guy calls you up and tries chatting you up. Who is he? What does he want? Do I know anything about him to make some conversation? Am I comfortable talking to some random voice on the phone? And what are all these weird questions he keeps asking me. It's like he's some weirdo following me around, how does he know???

Etc. Put yourself in her shoes for a moment.

But yeah, how should you go about calling up girls you don't really know? Like, how can you start a conversation on the phone without seeming desperate or showing too much interest? I want know this.
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Why? There is NO POINT to it whatsoever. You will not get anywhere because that is not how the game is played.

So how can I improve my phone game? What IS good phone game?
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Phone game is when you meet a girl, you talk you get to know her a little bit, then you chat her up on the phone later.

This is not phone game. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Start at the beginning.



I'm curious how long you will chase your own tail until you give up and join the rest of us normal people.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the key is to get them to WANT to talk to you. this is done prior to getting their number.

i have great conversations with a girl i have just started dating.

when one person has to carry a conversation, it is rough.

when she wants to talk and will also generate conversation, it is very enjoyable.
 
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