"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Petraeus' Mistress husband is a good looking Doctor

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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tight game can only be a factor on a willing patient.

doesn't matter how tight your game is when a woman's dream guy, is someone you aren't.

game is half of it. screening is just as if not more important. doesn't matter how good of a storyteller you aer if everyone in the class room is deaf

i'm willing to bet a proper screening of this woman would have revlved that she had a one track mind that was not his track.
 

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screening is mportant, at the end of the day though, its only risk reduction, not elimination
 

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call me an idealist but i tend to believe i can spot a woman who is so vile that sees nothing wrong about not only sleeping with another man, but writing a book about it, while you are still married to the guy that you cheated on.

that's not a little character defect
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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backbreaker said:
call me an idealist but i tend to believe i can spot a woman who is so vile that sees nothing wrong about not only sleeping with another man, but writing a book about it, while you are still married to the guy that you cheated on.

that's not a little character defect
I dont believe you
 

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So is it the fault of the guy for not being as astute as you, screening? Or hers for being a filthy ***** opportunist?

Or are we just.hedging our bets here with an automatic fall on either side of the fence excuse if called out on it?
 

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I think this highlights an important point. Yes, like BB says, screen like a mad man! and to others points, nothing is 100% and there is always the unknow because life is about probabilities not certainty.

So whats the answer? The answer is how ready and able is this guy or any guy to bounce back. Are you equiped to not fall apart and start spinning plates soon or are you going to fall into despair for the next 4 years?

imo, you need to somehow find a way early in life to become the guy that can bounce back not matter what.
 

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Yup. Get dogged out early and often...by the time you've become something you can bounce back the next ****ing week if need be. Hopefully this isnt his first heartbreak and he will be fine....bounce.
 

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Alot of dumb women get wet if a guy is in the military.

I wouldn't date those types, the Dr. Husband made a bad choice.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well if you subscribe to PUA theory, The General was the bigger better deal. He wasn't a doctor, or a director of a hospital, or even the surgeon general. He was the commander of the US Armed Forces in Iraq and Afganistan. He held life and death over millions in his hands. Then he was head of the CIA. His status kept rising. I'm just saying, if status gets the gina tingling, this guy was outshining a mere doctor by miles yah? Oh you saved a life? I liberated a country. I can destroy a target on the other side of the world with a word. I mean, not that he would ever be so low and crass, but that's what the status implies to the hamster yah?

Now, did you boys read the rest of the story? Apparently this became a love triangle (not including his wife) because she thought another woman was getting to close. Check this broad out. Petraeus probably had a soft harem.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/jill-kelley-photo-woman-reveals-petraeus-broadwood-affair
 

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It seems that some of you are missing the forest for the trees. The real issue here, as far as I'm concerned, is that a good looking, presumably rather well off young doctor couldn't find a better option than this unattractive, tranny-like woman. The fact that the director of the CIA chose to put his career on the line for her masculine piece of @ss is even more troubling. It highlights the desperate state of the North American male. Even the elite men are forced to deal with unattractive, mentally unstable women. I mean, just look at the evolution - or should I say devolution - of presidential affairs. JFK was banging Marylin Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor. Thirty years later, Clinton was dumpster diving with Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky. If the trend continues, we will soon be learning that BHO is having an affair with Missy Elliott.
 

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Bokanovsky said:
It seems that some of you are missing the forest for the trees. The real issue here, as far as I'm concerned, is that a good looking, presumably rather well off young doctor couldn't find a better option than this unattractive, tranny-like woman. The fact that the director of the CIA chose to put his career on the line for her masculine piece of @ss is even more troubling. It highlights the desperate state of the North American male. Even the elite men are forced to deal with unattractive, mentally unstable women. I mean, just look at the evolution - or should I say devolution - of presidential affairs. JFK was banging Marylin Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor. Thirty years later, Clinton was dumpster diving with Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky. If the trend continues, we will soon be learning that BHO is having an affair with Missy Elliott.

Exactly. Military women are repulsive and also women who love the military are.

It's like a man with a p/ssy.
 

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disgustipated said:
So is it the fault of the guy for not being as astute as you, screening? Or hers for being a filthy ***** opportunist?

Or are we just.hedging our bets here with an automatic fall on either side of the fence excuse if called out on it?
I dont think you can put fault 100% on either side, some will say if the hub had tight frame etc etc, had game, she wouldnt have strayed, I dont believe this, I think it makes straying much less probable, bottom line is, she was married with kids, she was screwing a prominent miltary figure, she knew what the deal was, she had a choice, she chose to follow her pu$$y.
I will never buy into the belief that women, once they get the tingles will just go for what makes them tingle as if totally mentally incapacitated. hey know the deal, thye know they will come out of it, the victim and the male will be the bad guy
 

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disgustipated said:
So is it the fault of the guy for not being as astute as you, screening? Or hers for being a filthy ***** opportunist?

Or are we just.hedging our bets here with an automatic fall on either side of the fence excuse if called out on it?
Yes it's his fault. I don't make a habit of casting blame on others when I am dealing with the consequences that directly result from my actions.

Let's be 100% clear here; if my wife went out and ****ed some dude and then decided she wasn't in love with me anymore and wanted half my ****, while it doesn't excuse her behavior, it's my fault. No one put a gun to my had and made me marry her; it was my decision 100%. I wanted to marry her. You can't go in life taking credit for all the good decisions you make and casting blame for all the negative ones. At the end of the day I want to figure out what I did wrong and the only way I can do that is to first acknowledge that i made a mistake.

With that said, beucase I tie my name to everything I do, I've thoroughly screened my wife; she lived with me for 2 and a half years, and had my son, before i was confident enough in her and my judgement of her to ask her to marry me. I know her enough to know what makes her tick and under the worst circumstances, she'd never do anything that would make her son or her father ashamed of her. lol, she'd have no problem leaving me if i stopped being backbreaker i assure you, she'd have no problem with demanding my **** lol at least some of it though we do have a pre nup, but she'd never do it in a manner that would bring shame on her father, she's a really bad daddy's girl.

I have to sometimes remind myself that I take things for granted. The 4th and 5th step in AA is

  • Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves
  • Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrong
After 7 years of being around AA and being clean and sober, this is my default action whenever something goes wrong with me. I can't afford to blame anyone else for **** i have done or because my life isn't like i wan tit, beucase the day I do, the day i start looking for scapegoats beucase my life isn't the way I want it to be, is the day I've made a deposit on a respell lay-away program. I can't go around blaming a girl for not being a faithful wife when i put a ring on her finger. I can't go around blaming a girl for flaking out on me when i made the decision to pursuer her on the first place.



It doesn't excuse behavior whatsoever and she'll have to nswer for what she does, whoever she is, in some way to someone, but I don't blame others for situtations I put myself in. AT least today I don't.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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samspade said:
2. Why the FBI was spying on him, unless they deemed it a national security issue.
My understanding is that the biographer/mistress sent some threatening emails to some other b!atch, which led the other b!atch to complain to the FBI, which in turn led to the FBI investigating the biographer/mistress' email account and seeing her email exchanges with the CIA director. The FBI and CIA not being on the friendliest of terms with each other, someone at the FBI decided to leak the story to the press on condition of anonymity.
 

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backbreaker said:
Yes it's his fault. I don't make a habit of casting blame on others when I am dealing with the consequences that directly result from my actions.

Let's be 100% clear here; if my wife went out and ****ed some dude and then decided she wasn't in love with me anymore and wanted half my ****, while it doesn't excuse her behavior, it's my fault. No one put a gun to my had and made me marry her; it was my decision 100%. I wanted to marry her. You can't go in life taking credit for all the good decisions you make and casting blame for all the negative ones. At the end of the day I want to figure out what I did wrong and the only way I can do that is to first acknowledge that i made a mistake.

With that said, beucase I tie my name to everything I do, I've thoroughly screened my wife; she lived with me for 2 and a half years, and had my son, before i was confident enough in her and my judgement of her to ask her to marry me. I know her enough to know what makes her tick and under the worst circumstances, she'd never do anything that would make her son or her father ashamed of her. lol, she'd have no problem leaving me if i stopped being backbreaker i assure you, she'd have no problem with demanding my **** lol at least some of it though we do have a pre nup, but she'd never do it in a manner that would bring shame on her father, she's a really bad daddy's girl.

I have to sometimes remind myself that I take things for granted. The 4th and 5th step in AA is

  • Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves
  • Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrong
After 7 years of being around AA and being clean and sober, this is my default action whenever something goes wrong with me. I can't afford to blame anyone else for **** i have done or because my life isn't like i wan tit, beucase the day I do, the day i start looking for scapegoats beucase my life isn't the way I want it to be, is the day I've made a deposit on a respell lay-away program. I can't go around blaming a girl for not being a faithful wife when i put a ring on her finger. I can't go around blaming a girl for flaking out on me when i made the decision to pursuer her on the first place.



It doesn't excuse behavior whatsoever and she'll have to nswer for what she does, whoever she is, in some way to someone, but I don't blame others for situtations I put myself in. AT least today I don't.
I am active in Al-Anon and what I like about a 12 step program is that it encourages you to stop wallowing in self-pity, take responsibility for your failures as well as your successes, never ask others to do what you can do for yourself, and not adopt a victim mentality.

And it does make sense to screen and qualify as much as possible before you make any sort of commitment. If you tried to wife up a stripper or a drug addict, well, buyer beware. Having said that, the most careful and vigilant screening and qualifying will only reduce risk, it will not eliminate it. I think it's narcissism to think you can completely eliminate risk. Every single human being is probably a cheating risk, whether it be high or low, somewhere on the spectrum.

I just can't beat the cuckolded husband up too much. There's only so much screening and qualifying you can do. At a certain point you make a decision to trust somebody else. There's a lot we don't know, so it's pointless to speculate on whether or not he screened her well enough, or was too AFC and didn't maintain frame.
 

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Findog said:
I am active in Al-Anon and what I like about a 12 step program is that it encourages you to stop wallowing in self-pity, take responsibility for your failures as well as your successes, never ask others to do what you can do for yourself, and not adopt a victim mentality.

And it does make sense to screen and qualify as much as possible before you make any sort of commitment. If you tried to wife up a stripper or a drug addict, well, buyer beware. Having said that, the most careful and vigilant screening and qualifying will only reduce risk, it will not eliminate it. I think it's narcissism to think you can completely eliminate risk. Every single human being is probably a cheating risk, whether it be high or low, somewhere on the spectrum.

I just can't beat the cuckolded husband up too much. There's only so much screening and qualifying you can do. At a certain point you make a decision to trust somebody else. There's a lot we don't know, so it's pointless to speculate on whether or not he screened her well enough, or was too AFC and didn't maintain frame.
I think more than anything what I am tryign tos ay, is that "fault" is a silly, childish concept. i dont' waste time worrying or trying to figure out whose "fault" it is it's not going to help or solve the situation. What I can do however is see what part i played in it, and rectify any bad behaviors that I had in the issue. faulting is not going to do anything but make you bitter and get you on the self pity train. all i can say is look she did this... did i miss anything that would have shwon me this was in her.. honestly.. what could i have done differently in the course of our relationship to not lead to this behavior.. make a note on it and move on/spin plates.

life's gonna go on rather i go with it or not.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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