“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Persisting vs Dismissing

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In the context of this post, think of persistence as a chick that gave you her number, but doesn't respond to a text you send so you hit her up a week or so later(regardless of if she responds the previous time). Dismissing would be seeing that she hasn't responded and proceeding to forget about her until she hits you up again.

For the longest, if a female didnt respond then it was the end of a conversation until she reaches out again. In that headspace, I tend to forget names and feel good having a random number hmu from nowhere. It also makes them more agreeable.

Recently I've been trying to be more persistent(testing out a theory). For instance, get her number and schedule a meet up. If at any time during the interaction she stops responding, hit her up a week or two later to schedule another meetup. This feels like grasping at straws and is a pain to hit up lukewarm or cold females.

I do understand that I may get laid a little more by pursuing like this due to the fact that there will be times when I catch her in between guys, but it appears as though the persistent approach is coming from a lower place of value than forgetting her. I get laid plenty so dealing with a female that isn't into me is a huge pain. It feels like time wasted when there's a super interested chick somewhere else.

Personally, I find it more natural for me to next a low interest female instead of being persistent due to the fact that I'm not too invested in the first place. I've reverted back to not wasting my time being persistent with those types, but before I allow myself to get completely and fully immersed in dismissing low interest females, I wanted to know if persistence is better. What do you think and why?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Persistence only works if she has some interest in the first place but has a legitimate reason not to get with you...like she knows you're bad news, has a bf or something like that. That's when persistence works. If she's not replying to your messages, move on. The longer you're in this, the quicker you'll be able to see which girls are pretenders, they make it pretty obvious if you pay attention. I usually try and do the smallest thing to move things forward, if she can't do that then its not going to happen.
 

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Man, these "maybe" women with low interest are a big waste of time. It cost me money, opportunities, and time better spend on someone else. The funny part is that they always show up at the wrong moment only screw with your plans or head. I say use them if they have any social value or just plainly avoid.
 

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A hi how s u reach out text a week later ...sure. Any more than that smells of AFC
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Confidence persistance is also not becoming mad when she declines your date, when she's busy, when she refuses to have cex and just smile it off and go about your business.

A plate refused cex twice and flaked on a date. Okay, I said no problem, smiled it off and bailed. Now we meet up a week later at a random party (this saturday) we make out, we split up. She texts me to come to her house and I went to f8ck her. Now shes blowing up my phone.

Well that's confidence persistance. Ofc only do it to girls that have some sort of interest but don't get butthurt because shes putting some roadblocks on the way. It doesnt always mean Im not interested. Some girls protect theirselves because they got hurt so many times...
 

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Women are like children they have very short attention spans and like taking things off other kids

Saying this there is no right or wrong answer to this question

Women enjoy being chased , they also enjoy chasing guys they cant have

So you need to assume one of these roles and stick to it

personally I enjoy letting the woman put the leg work in …..i feel if she is prepared to make an effort with you then you can expect very little trouble from her

be warned though that women are extremely used to guys hounding them and when you come across TOO cool they will see it as a sign your not attracted to them
 
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Being persistent only works if she WANTS you to catch her.

Some guys think women will "challenge" them by rejecting dates, or acting flakey, etc. to make the pursuit seem more worth it.

In reality, that's just guys' egos trying to justify a woman appearing "hot and cold," when in reality, more often than not she's just not interested but doesn't want to hurt the guys feelings.

Yes, a guy needs to be persistent... and by that, I mean he needs to ask her out, take her out, and ask her out again. On her end of this persistence, she should be saying "yes" to these things and showing up as an indicator that she wants him to continue his persistence.

Any other kind of "maybe" behavior means low interest, and is not worth trying to convince her why she should be liking you more.
 

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Being persistent only works if she WANTS you to catch her.

Yes, a guy needs to be persistent... and by that, I mean he needs to ask her out, take her out, and ask her out again. On her end of this persistence, she should be saying "yes" to these things and showing up as an indicator that she wants him to continue his persistence.

Any other kind of "maybe" behavior means low interest, and is not worth trying to convince her why she should be liking you more.
Agree 110% with the above post, particularly the part I quoted above.

Assign yourselves some value guys. If she's not responsive she's NOT interested. Doesn't matter why that is. Learn to read her ACTUAL interest level based on her responsiveness to you...learn NOT to delude yourself or make excuses for her.
 

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Based off of the responses, the majority of guys here think that "confident persistence" is pointless. After trying it out for a few weeks and receiving mildly interested lays that didn't turn into high interest, I agree.
 

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I used to follow confident persistence.

It doesn't work.

Actions are the best thing to read and will never lie.
 

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From the pimp game i learned, women do the choosing, and a hoe gona fuk when a hoe wanna fuk. Simple as that.


Ill spit some game at a chick..if shes not feelin it i move on. Not gonna chase these b1tches point blank.
 

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Persistence = desperate beta bucks game

Staying aloof is almost the best form of game there is nowdays. When you're busy with your life and not pursuing women, puzzy falls in your lap without you even trying. Persistence often leads to massive failure (with women) because it puts them in a pedestal.
 

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Persistence = desperate beta bucks game

Staying aloof is almost the best form of game there is nowdays. When you're busy with your life and not pursuing women, puzzy falls in your lap without you even trying. Persistence often leads to massive failure (with women) because it puts them in a pedestal.
It hands over your pride. Keep that within yourself and let her choose.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I'm past the point of persistance these days. If girl is wishy washy or playing 'hard to get' then i assume low interest and i'll do something else or chat to another girl.

Waste of time in my opinion. The danger is attempting to play it cool solely to prise her back. Just f Walk.
 

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Persistence = desperate beta bucks game

Staying aloof is almost the best form of game there is nowdays. When you're busy with your life and not pursuing women, puzzy falls in your lap without you even trying. Persistence often leads to massive failure (with women) because it puts them in a pedestal.
Confident persistence is so outdated, it was never indated! It's pedestalization at its finest.

Persistence might work in your career or getting a job, but not with a girl.

Considering the sources of attention women have, chasing a no is a dead end.

Mixed signals are negative signals. Hot-and-cold is Cold-and-cold. Hard-to-get is Never-will-get.

With the above post, the only problem is that staying aloof and focusing on your hobbies and living life doesn't bring you women if they don't find you attractive. Sit outside in a park and design new levels for Candy Crush. Good productivity, but what if you aren't a Chad?

Women who want you will make it known. Maybe chicks get thrown on the backburner. I do delete numbers if they go nowhere. Stop responding, flake, wishy washy, just wants to be friends, delete. If you ask her out or go for a number, and she makes an excuse, totally deleted, never speak again unless she's helping your career or business.

If miss indecisive comes back, explain in terse terms it's either we go out or f**k off.

Erase and replace. When I see low interest, I'm out.

Case closed.
 

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I dont want to be lame or repeat what we all know but in this case all we have to do is listen to our gut.

Our brains can try to complicate things, protect our ego or rationalize what doesnt need to be rationalized...our gut just get it but he is not a great communicator.

Your gut will try to tell you how things are but its up to you to get it, if you feel annoyed, stressed or suddengly in discomfort it means the hoe is a no.

On the other side if you enjoy the "chase" or feel that its ok, there may be a chance but this is a really rare case.

The benchmark is your stress and discomfort level when you chase a girl, no games or plots just listen to your gut and the problem is fixed.

In my opinion zealot persistance in 2017 is an unlimited fail, you will lose time, she will laught about you with her friends or even get you a stalker label....not worth for a hoe.
 

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If miss indecisive comes back, explain in terse terms it's either we go out or f**k off.

Erase and replace. When I see low interest, I'm out.
"We go out or f*ck off"

It really should be this way. Women will always move mountains to see someone if they are interested. I know a girl who spent $500 one way to fly out across the united states to see some guy.

If whatever girl you're talking to can't meet up for 'x' just remember that there are girls literally flying over mountains to see a dude.
 
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