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Persistance? Or no contact..?

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Hey,

Met a girl at a party. was in a 2 set. got her number. called the next night was friday night went to zombieland that night. Kiss closed her after dropping her off even though it was a slightly awkward make out sesh. (hate making out in my car). she seemed to really enjoy the date though.. was smiling alot asked me questions i asked her alot of questions etc.


anyways i texted her sun night in a ****y funny way mentioned something we talked about but she never responded to that text.

my gut is telling me to just hit her up spontainously this coming friday or sat to hang out but idk now since she hasnt responded to my last text, and i feel like the frame is starting to shift to her.

few other tidbits of info: shes hot, young though 18, only responds to texts from me hasnt picked up the phone yet when i call her.

advice? i am already spinning other plates although ill admit that they are mostly low interest. i just want to know if i should go no contact, wait a week , or hit her up this weekend. if i **** this up whatever. :rockon:
 

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sky77 said:
Hey,

Met a girl at a party. was in a 2 set. got her number. called the next night was friday night went to zombieland that night. Kiss closed her after dropping her off even though it was a slightly awkward make out sesh. (hate making out in my car). she seemed to really enjoy the date though.. was smiling alot asked me questions i asked her alot of questions etc.


anyways i texted her sun night in a ****y funny way mentioned something we talked about but she never responded to that text.

my gut is telling me to just hit her up spontainously this coming friday or sat to hang out but idk now since she hasnt responded to my last text, and i feel like the frame is starting to shift to her.

few other tidbits of info: shes hot, young though 18, only responds to texts from me hasnt picked up the phone yet when i call her.

advice? i am already spinning other plates although ill admit that they are mostly low interest. i just want to know if i should go no contact, wait a week , or hit her up this weekend. if i **** this up whatever. :rockon:

You say that she didn't respond to you texting her after the date,plus she don't answer your phone calls.


Looks like her interest level is low.


I know you said she had a good time on the date,but that's your perspective. Not saying she didn't enjoy herself,but you'd think she would have at least responded to your text.


Persistance or no contact? I say persistance.


Let a day or two pass from the last time you tried to contact her,and CALL HER UP.



If you manage to get her on the phone,talk for a little while,stir up her emotions,then ask her out.




No contact is only effective when the girl is somewhat more invested,and I don't think she's there yet.



So go ahead and contact her.
 

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Thanks for the advice dude i appreciate it. although im like 99% sure she will not pick up the phone if i call her... and i don't want to leave a retarded VM...



but i guess ill give that a shot..

my plan was to text her and say something like "hey i was planning on going out to eat and listen to some music tonite, you wanna tag along?" or something like that.


either way thank you for the advice i like to have other peoples opinions on this **** since no one is perfect.
 

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You say she never answers when you call and didn't respond to your last text....

Has she ever initiated a phone call or text to you???

If not, she's losing interest because your chasing her way to hard. In other words, she knows she has you wrapped around her finger and it kills her interest level, ESPECIALLY at her age.

I'd lay back for a couple days, then hit her up. I'd text her since you already know she doesn't answer your phone calls. However instead of asking her out, I'd shoot the sh*t with her for a bit and tease her. Then end the text exchange when its at its high point.

This will keep her thinking about you for a couple days and THEN you can hit her up and ask her out. If has any interest in you, she'll be excited and you can go from there.




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