"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Perfect body weight to maximize DJ efforts.

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"DJ fighting weight".

So guru1000 and I are talking about this on private forums. I'm doing my part to have a key that will unlock many compatible women without even saying a word. As in having my body and physical image in one that is desired and stirs sexual feelings and lust in females.

guru1000 talked about not being scared to become lighter weight as I was a former football player, and I agree somewhat.

I've identified the body size of my prototypical "DJ fighting weight".

I'm 6'2. And it is said to be proportionate that each inch of height is worth an extra 4-5 lbs. So the difference between same proportions on a 6'0" guy and a 6'2" one is 8-10 lbs, the taller one would be heavier to have the same proportion of muscle.

It's around the size of actors and celebrities of my height who have serious strong pull, so:

LL Cool J when he's in serious shape ( 6'3" on 213-223 )
Actor Brian White ( 6'0 190-200 )
Actor Will smith when he's tight ( 6'2" 190-200 )
Actor Shermar More ( 6'1" 195 )
Actor Channing Tatum ( 6'1" 185-190 ) "Magic Mike"
Model "Cross Thompson" ( 6'0" 195-205 ) https://www.google.com/search?q=cro...ei=lTdjVaK3NYm-sAXmooEo&ved=0CB0QsAQ&dpr=1.25

So now that I've ID'd these are seriously attractive body sizes on a male, I would like to get my benefits and have a body hot enough that a woman might not even like my ways, might almost hate me but must have a piece...

On me it's 6'2" 215-225... I am currently stronger than most NFL linebackers, I'm seeking midsection competitive with top male fitness models. Some of these actors are smaller, but I've been that size, and on my frame I feel it's not enough muscle.

Your DJ fighting weight is one where if you had to survive as a male stripper it would be your optimal weight for pulling females and getting them to tip.

I'm kinda excited and sharing my enthusiasm to other DJ members about being able to obtain this "check box" in their life. So that every day you wake up, you know you have the physical portion taken care of.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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So guru1000 and I are talking about this on private forums. I'm doing my part to have a key that will unlock many compatible women without even saying a word. As in having my body and physical image in one that is desired and stirs sexual feelings and lust in females.
Well, if you figure it out please post it here, because I'm always looking for a "magic bullet", even though I've pretty much concluded no such thing exists. I'm 5'10" though, so I'm not that tall.

I'd say about 160lbs for me would be perfect. I'm 6'0" with 4% bpdy fat so if I could gain 25 more pounds of pure muscle and no fat, id look so good I'm not sure it would be fair to the other men. Once my body catches up halfway to my face I'm sure I'll unlock other women who had not considered me just due to my thin frame.
Ah, to be so young again and have it all in front of you. You are an unlocked box of pure potential. Since you're only 17, there's no way you can't improve your muscularity - as long as you apply yourself. At my age, it's probably all downhill from here. I've had to reduce the amount of weight I lift because my joints don't hold up anymore.

Not that I'd trade places with you. I've just reached the point where I never have to work again if I don't want, and I wouldn't want to have to start over from scratch, especially in this economy.
 

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Well my buddy is 6'3'' at 186 5% bodyfat. He is pulling hot girls like you wouldnt believe. In the last 6 months since he got serious about working out he has fvcked about 30 new girls, all 8.5s to 9.5s.

Im 6'3'' at about 185 but with 13% bf, trying to get my weight up then I will shred like he did back down to the 180s.
 
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frankly, i don't believe it, DK. is this supposed to have happened in the US, with no other changes, (like driving a porche, fancy suit, being a singer/player in a popular band, etc, etc)?
 

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Had an online first date last night with a HB 8.5. Upon meeting me, her eyes were fluttering so much, I thought she was going to have a seizure.

After about an hour, she invited me "to check out her new apt overlooking the water." I declined. I wasn't in the mood. My phone was flooded with texts all morning, lol.

Ya, life sucks
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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prison/con.net said:
frankly, i don't believe it, DK. is this supposed to have happened in the US, with no other changes, (like driving a porche, fancy suit, being a singer/player in a popular band, etc, etc)?
He is in British Columbia Canada. Also he is working as a bouncer part time so Im sure that helps. Tells me he will be working and has girls come to him and give their numbers to him.

He has a mustang that is not drivable at the moment, no fancy suits lol

He also sends me screen shots of many convos with different girls and pictures of the girls. Definitely cant argue with the results he is getting.
 

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Well I'm working on it now and results have shown, so there's that.

I'd say about 160lbs for me would be perfect. I'm 6'0" with 4% bpdy fat so if I could gain 25 more pounds of pure muscle and no fat, id look so good I'm not sure it would be fair to the other men. Once my body catches up halfway to my face I'm sure I'll unlock other women who had not considered me just due to my thin frame.

It is quite exciting. I've always tried in the past but always given up after about 2 weeks, but this time I'm a month and a half in and every lift day i wake up excited and ready to go do weights and eat a ton that day.
17 years old, 6 foot tall with 4% body fat? lol. where u buying your juice at? cause you're gonna need more to even have hopes of adding 25 more pounds of purely lean mass at that height. sorry dude but at 4% body fat your body is practically starving. going under 8% body fat is already almost an exercise in futility thanks to basic knowledge of biochemistry in the body.
 

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Height Optimal Weight

5'5" 160 lbs.
5'6" 165 lbs
5'7" 170 lbs
5'8" 175 lbs.
5'9" 180 lbs
5'10" 185 lbs
5'11" 190 lbs
6' 200 lbs
6'1" 210 lbs
6'2" 220 lbs
6'3" 230 lbs
6'4" 240 lbs
6'5" 250 lbs

Proportion Chart

Muscle to bone ratios:
Arm = 252% of wrist
Calf = 192% of ankle
Neck = 79% of head
Chest= 148% of pelvis
Waist= 86% of pelvis
Thigh = 175% of knee

This was conducted by Steve Reeves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqMYhv6x96k
 

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6'1" 190 here. All my life I was 6'1" 167 - 175 except for a spurt in my early 20s of 210 but that was due to heaving eating and sedentary office life after graduation. Later, my career turned extremely physical. Last Summer, I was 152 due to abdominal surgery (which Changed a LOT of how I digest food and eliminate). Since the surgery, my body has processed food differently and now I've blimped to about 190. Also, I do 300+ pushups EVERY day throughout my workday, usually reps of 30 each time I hit the floor. I've started taking a Creatine substance as of 3 months ago (took it for energy, but it ended up making me more massive). I figure I'll stop my rep at 50 pushups a crack once I get there. It's all about being able to "pull your own weight."
 
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Basically from my numbers a 6'2" muscular low bodyfat guy would weigh 190-210 to be at that optimal weight for generating lust in females.

Of women can prefer larger and smaller men, this weight is equivalent to the "built and toned" weight in the Cal Tech attraction studies.

So it would hit the largest cross section and give you greatest success.

Plus clothes drape properly off of this weight like the king that you are.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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6'0.5" here

Shooting for 200lb flat with 16.5" biceps.

Any bigger and you are getting into meathead territory, this is like Vin Diesel size, very solid without looking like you are on Dat dere
 

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The more muscle the better, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
 

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SeymourCake said:
Height Optimal Weight

5'5" 160 lbs.
5'6" 165 lbs
5'7" 170 lbs
5'8" 175 lbs.
5'9" 180 lbs
5'10" 185 lbs
5'11" 190 lbs
6' 200 lbs
6'1" 210 lbs
6'2" 220 lbs
6'3" 230 lbs
6'4" 240 lbs
6'5" 250 lbs

Proportion Chart

Muscle to bone ratios:
Arm = 252% of wrist
Calf = 192% of ankle
Neck = 79% of head
Chest= 148% of pelvis
Waist= 86% of pelvis
Thigh = 175% of knee

This was conducted by Steve Reeves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqMYhv6x96k
I disagree with being 5'6" and being 165lbs. That would be overweight. In fact, 5'5" through 5'9" I consider overweight. I'm 5'6" and I get told that my body could be in a magazine, I weight around 135.
 

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I disagree with being 5'6" and being 165lbs. That would be overweight. In fact, 5'5" through 5'9" I consider overweight. I'm 5'6" and I get told that my body could be in a magazine, I weight around 135.
According to what, BMI? The BMI is a complete joke.
 
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Frayzer said:
I disagree with being 5'6" and being 165lbs. That would be overweight. In fact, 5'5" through 5'9" I consider overweight. I'm 5'6" and I get told that my body could be in a magazine, I weight around 135.
His table is "close". I would say those numbers represent atheletic weights, where the person isn't too big. I would say it's an upper bound, meaning the lower bound can be 20 lbs less.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I disagree with being 5'6" and being 165lbs. That would be overweight. In fact, 5'5" through 5'9" I consider overweight. I'm 5'6" and I get told that my body could be in a magazine, I weight around 135.
I agree I am 5'9 and 3/4th and 185 I am still kind of chubby. I would say for 5'9 160-170 would be ideal weight
 

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PeasantPlayer said:
I agree I am 5'9 and 3/4th and 185 I am still kind of chubby. I would say for 5'9 160-170 would be ideal weight

Muscle weighs more than fat.
 

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I'm 6 foot. I currently weight 98kg (217 pounds).

I'm trying to get down to 89kg - 198 lbs

The most important thing is not weight but bodyfat %. Aim for 10% and you'll look great.

In fact you'll look good at 12%, most people cannot maintain below 12% BF if they have an active social life that includes eating and drinking out.
 

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SeymourCake said:
According to what, BMI? The BMI is a complete joke.
I just weighed myself and I'm at 139lbs, I didn't know I gained weight but I'm pretty sure it's all muscle. With that being said, I feel 150lbs would be more than ideal for my height.

I agree with Flush about the -15 for 5'9" and below.
 

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Interesting thread. Damn, there are some tall fvckers posting in this thread, especially on page one. I'm just happy I'm at least average height, but I've noticed that when women get together and talk about which guys they find really good looking, they're usually tall. Which is not to say they think all tall guys are good looking, but the ones that they do find good looking are usually tall.

At 5'10", I noticed that when I get below 190, I don't like the way I look. I start to look too scrawny and bony. Maybe it's just the way my frame is, but that's not too far off from that Steve Reeves list.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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