"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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"Perfect 10's" How many of us get them?

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Stop pedestalizing chicks you think are perfect "10's".

Even the ones you may know personally and have talked to many times.Their face. Their smile, Walk, talk, laugh, personalities and so on.

None of them are perfect.

If you see them that way you'll NEVER wind up with them.

Why? Because you'll hold them so out of your reach you'll never go for them.

Treat them as people. Not objects. Just take them off that pedestal and go for it. Rejection is better than regret.

Trust me. I know. And I still regret it to this day.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hot women are sometimes the easiest to f*ck because they don't have the insecure need to "keep the guy" like uglier girls do.:up:

There is a 2 point difference in the women I can get to bang me and the women I can get to date me. Its funny. The 6's and 7's always "hold out" on sex because they think I'm a "player". The 8's and up don't give a sh!t.

Never banged a 10 though... most of those girls are only found in Cali and NYC chasing after modeling jobs, acting jobs and music video skank jobs... and trying to jump on Clooney's c0ck.
 

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Dated 2 briefly. Funny thing is, they were crushing on me, but were too hard-headed, egotistical, and narcissistic to give (ever), always needed the upper-hand, and had WAY too many options everywhere. One of them was a HUGE ***** and queen *****; the other was a complete retard. There was a lot of mind games and emotional chaos. The ***** was a major user, manipulator, and player. The retard was really sweet in the beginning - then became a major ***** after a few months. Both jumped from guy to guy like crazy, and dated bad boys and *******s. Both were painfully shallow and stupid. And very, very revengeful when they didn't get their way.

A couple 8s I dated acted like they were 10s, but it was more them pretending in order to be accepted. Thinking guys like *****es and sluts. Former nice girls turned bad. I'd call them bad girls over *****es, though. They still had a lot of issues, but were a little more tolerable. Not as narcissistic or mean, but still stuck up, shallow, slutty, and stupid.

Then again, everything was new to me, and I had the worst standards and mentality about dating imaginable. They were all definitely attracted to the high status player / ******* vibes I was giving out at the time, so there's a lot of truth in that theory. They're all about the looks and material possessions, and the chase and challenge. But that doesn't stop them from complaining about all the *******s they seek after for these same reasons. Idiots. They also cause a LOT of problems and drama.

6s and 7s seem to be more relationship material, but they still have high standards and reject a lot of guys. If they like you - they're definitely a lot nicer, giving, and "real". I avoided them in favor of the 8s and up, because they weren't "hot", but looking at them now. Then again, there aren't a lot of hot women down here. Those that are, are no better than all the other ones I knew: prissy, snotty, vain, shallow, etc. Thus, avoided.

Not only should you not pedestalize hotties, and give in to their "wants" - you should be even MORE critical and watchful of them, and making sure they live up to your standards. Most are only good for short-term fun, and respond favorably to high status guys with options - and whom they have to work for. So, it kind of works itself out. Just don't expect anything to last with them, or to have many good qualities.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
The 6's and 7's always "hold out" on sex because they think I'm a "player".
This is very true - my current GF did this to me in the beginning.

More logical is the thought that you should always be with some one 'on your own level' - including appearance, status, wealth, etc. Because imbalance will always cause suspicion, jealousy, and distrust in one of the two people in a relationship (one is way better looking than the other, more successful, etc).

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floydb25 said:
Dated 2 briefly. Funny thing is, they were crushing on me, but were too hard-headed, egotistical, and narcissistic to give (ever), always needed the upper-hand, and had WAY too many options everywhere. One of them was a HUGE ***** and queen *****; the other was a complete retard. There was a lot of mind games and emotional chaos. The ***** was a major user, manipulator, and player. The retard was really sweet in the beginning - then became a major ***** after a few months. Both jumped from guy to guy like crazy, and dated bad boys and *******s. Both were painfully shallow and stupid. And very, very revengeful when they didn't get their way.

A couple 8s I dated acted like they were 10s, but it was more them pretending in order to be accepted. Thinking guys like *****es and sluts. Former nice girls turned bad. I'd call them bad girls over *****es, though. They still had a lot of issues, but were a little more tolerable. Not as narcissistic or mean, but still stuck up, shallow, slutty, and stupid.

Then again, everything was new to me, and I had the worst standards and mentality about dating imaginable. They were all definitely attracted to the high status player / ******* vibes I was giving out at the time, so there's a lot of truth in that theory. They're all about the looks and material possessions, and the chase and challenge. But that doesn't stop them from complaining about all the *******s they seek after for these same reasons. Idiots. They also cause a LOT of problems and drama.

6s and 7s seem to be more relationship material, but they still have high standards and reject a lot of guys. If they like you - they're definitely a lot nicer, giving, and "real". I avoided them in favor of the 8s and up, because they weren't "hot", but looking at them now. Then again, there aren't a lot of hot women down here. Those that are, are no better than all the other ones I knew: prissy, snotty, vain, shallow, etc. Thus, avoided.

Not only should you not pedestalize hotties, and give in to their "wants" - you should be even MORE critical and watchful of them, and making sure they live up to your standards. Most are only good for short-term fun, and respond favorably to high status guys with options - and whom they have to work for. So, it kind of works itself out. Just don't expect anything to last with them, or to have many good qualities.
This is very solid post, Floyd - I agree with it all.

I dated 8's and higher but found them to be way too phucked up and emotional vampires. I now enjoy my GF who is around a 7 because she is down to earth, has a great personality, very feminine, and is trustworthy.

The trade-off is very obvious if you are experienced with the HB spectrum from the high end to the mid end. Quality versus Superficiality - this is the trick. You can rarely get a HB8+ with any respectful inner soul. It is logically impossible due to the superficialness and vainfulness of this society we live in.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You hit the nail on the head:

None of them are perfect, or even close to a perfect 10.

Lets talk about how many of us get 8.5, because even 9 is a figment of one's imagination.

I get 7.5-8.5 quite often, obviously not the same scale as all the others but consider my scale and then decide which range is yours.
 

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I don't think I've ever fvcked a 10. Maybe the fake images the TV shows us makes us chase something that doesn't exist... And I say this because - I don't even think I've ever seen a 10 in person...

Not a TV 10... I've fvcked plenty of good looking women though.

I did fvck the 1st runner up of my states "miss [state]" contest. But, I actually wasn't too attracted to her (probably benefited me). Way more skinny than most girls I've fvcked and a nonexistent @ss. Huge rack and pretty face must be all the judges cared about.

When I've showed friends pics of her - they don't even believe it. Especially since the way I tell it (and the way it was) - SHE came on to me and I wasn't even that interested.

It was as simple as me asking her if she had apple juice when everyone else was drinking beer... I was serious - she thought I was joking... The rest of the night was easy.

And sometimes the gods like to make you think you're the man, by making it that easy on some night when you're not expecting triumph.
 

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Perfect 10, hmmm. I haven't met one yet. I think human beings are imperfect by nature.

That said, I have yet to meet an unmarried girl that would come anywhere close. I am hoping to be shown differently someday.
 

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Hmmmmm... The only two 10s I ever met / dated were only interested in pretty boys, and used / ignored everyone else. They were EXTREMELY stuck up, and didn't give a damn about anyone, or hung around in one area. They viewed themselves as princesses who were "holier than thou". Their time was super precious, and they mostly stuck to themselves, and were very hard to find if you weren't with them. Who knows what the hell they do, or who they're with - but it's always something.

If they didn't like someone, or you pissed them off by not being their slave - they would just storm away like ****s - then expect YOU to make it up to them. Again, always needed the upper-hand, and made sure they were the prize and had ALL of the power. Manipulative games to ensure their needs were met / interests were secure were the norm. A lot of simple responses and shallow conversations, because they were too good to talk to people. They treated people like **** - then blamed them for everything, and complained when no one liked them. Rediculous.

I was considered (by women) a pretty boy in my prime, and they were the ones who approached and pursued, but it didn't mean **** to these "gorgeous" girls. Everything was always about them. They were always better, expected more, entitled to everything, etc. No one was ever good enough, and they couldn't be satisfied for nothing. Always *****ing and causing problems - then *****ing and causing even MORE problems after the result wasn't in their favor. They were WAY up on the pedestal.

They also have doormats, orbiters, and WKs everywhere they go, and you will be hated on like no other for being with them. But I made the brilliant idea of befriending and trusting every ******* that's out there - only to be insulted, bullied, belittled, and competed against constantly. It's much easier to do this when someone's your "friend", and grls are giving you attention - and not them. The hate and jealousy is fierce, but they play it off like you're just a worthless loser who needs to be treated like ****, and they're better than you. Being called "ugly" is very common. So much for getting respect - just a lot of hate, jealousy, and ego-driven competition. Lesson learned.

Oh well. **** them extreme high class, narcissistic hoes, and all those fake, two-faced faggots pining after them, or otherwise competing with each other over who's better and more attractive. No time for that ****. :down:
 

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No woman is a 10 to everyone. I only dated one girl who I rated as 10 but several in the 8-9 range.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hows that saying go....

When you see a dropdead gorgeous chick for every 20 guys walking behind her gawking and drooling theres one walking beside her who cant stand her. I know I completely butchered that saying, but you get the idea. It really is true, I dated a 9.5 for 3 years and watched every guy and girl I ever cared about stab me in the back to try to fvck her, and after awhile I got sick of most things she did just like any other chick.
 

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incognito42 said:
Hows that saying go....

When you see a dropdead gorgeous chick for every 20 guys walking behind her gawking and drooling theres one walking beside her who cant stand her. I know I completely butchered that saying, but you get the idea. It really is true, I dated a 9.5 for 3 years and watched every guy and girl I ever cared about stab me in the back to try to fvck her, and after awhile I got sick of most things she did just like any other chick.
Yep... Most people are only "loyal" as long as you remain beneath them, and aren't a threat. Otherwise, they try to make it that way - through false friendships. And they will backstab, gossip, and talk **** behind your back, and try to steal your women or otherwise sabotage your intentions. They DON'T want to see you with hot girls, attracting women in general, having nice things, being social and likeable, etc, when they aren't.

There's a lot of fake mother****ers out there, and their true colors come to light once they see or suspect you being more successful than them. Just watch them tear you down, hate everything you have, insult you repeatedly, compete with you over everything, tell you you're not going to succeed / nobody likes you / she's out of your league - only to turn around and say they're not jealous or hating. Just attacking constantly. Ruthless; from all directions.

They will also try to make you look bad in front of women, reveal all your weaknesses to them, act "better" than you, become "friends" with them through you - only to try and sabotage / steal them from you (as they're playing both you and her), etc.

**** people... Make acquaintances and fly solo.
 
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